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Zambrah

United States7393 Posts

February 08 2020 07:15 GMT

#30461

I dont think its anything inherent to his flesh, Im pretty sure hes just similar to Big Mom in that hes basically a fucking monster, I mean try tried to hurt Big Mom and she was seemed nigh indestructible.

Its probably the same with Kaido, except his physical haki is likely better than Big Mom's.

The powerful in One Piece are almost a different species

Olli

Austria24422 Posts

February 08 2020 09:54 GMT

#30462

Even it being Haki doesn't make sense to me. Haki is willpower and Kaido is actively looking to die. And I don't think it's his fruit either because the effects of his fruit would be negated completely through seawater. So seastone handcuffs and weapons or just the ocean would have made it possible to kill him, as would strong enough poison, electrocution, burning, suffocation or any other non-solid form of execution. Or even something like eating a second devil's fruit which for all we know kills non-Blackbeard people.

Haki would mean Kaido actively trying not to die which is the opposite of how he was introduced. And we have to assume he's survived things that go beyond Haki protection.

Even with Big Mom her crew was worried about the ocean, and we saw what happened to her when she did fall in - she would have died if she hadn't washed ashore.

Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

February 08 2020 11:23 GMT

#30463

Kaido's Haki confirmed like Gaara's sand from Naruto. His mom is his haki and protects him from suicide

Dangermousecatdog

United Kingdom7084 Posts

February 08 2020 12:55 GMT

#30464

Kaido is Harry Potter who got hit by a truck and reincarnated. He now wanders the Grand Line seeking One Piece so he can return home.

Olli

Austria24422 Posts

February 08 2020 17:29 GMT

#30465

I hope it's not some Pirates of the Caribbean thing

Forikorder

Canada8840 Posts

February 11 2020 00:46 GMT

#30466

On February 08 2020 01:23 Hyperbola wrote:

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On February 07 2020 12:45 Sentenal wrote:

On February 07 2020 02:51 Hyperbola wrote:
Kaido is "immortal" because nothing can pierce through his dragon scales. Oden was able to slice through Kaido's scales because of Enma's ability to draw out excessive amounts of Haki from the user.

I think he could have easily sliced Kaido's head off if he got a clean hit. You have to take into account that swords are nerfed in One Piece and usually only perform shallow cuts on people instead of slicing off limbs. The fact that Oden was able to leave such a significant scar on Kaido demonstrates that it was a very serious cut, not just a flesh wound.

However, we never did get to see if Oden would be able to take Human form Kaido in a fight. From what we've seen, Kaido starts off in Dragon form for mobility and area of affect damage and then switches to Human form to finish strong single targets off with his Kanabo. Personally, I think Oden would have been able to defeat human form Kaido with a pyrrhic victory just because it makes for a better story - and makes his failure that much more upsetting and dramatic.

I disagree Kaido's "immortality" is due to his dragon scales. His intro back in the day pretty much completely went against it. They tried to hang him, but the rope broke. They tried the guillotine, but the blade broke. They tried to impale him like Roger, but the spears broke. And this is all in a sequence where he jumps off of a Sky Island, in human form, and survives just fine. And through all of this sequence, it describes Kaido as someoe who is looking for a place to die, because presumably he hasn't found a way to die yet. If him being able to die was just "don't turn into a dragon so you don't get dragonscales", then he should definitely be dead by now.

Kaido definitely isn't human. He'll probably end up getting classified as an Oni or something. I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out hes the same race as Oars is. Although granted much smaller in size compared to Oars or Little Oars jr., hes still a horned giant.

His scales still exist when he's in human form, they're just not visible. He's a dragon man, just like Luff is a rubber man.

>can't hang him
>can't slash him
>can't stab him
>can't kill him with gravity

All of it makes sense if he's got impervious dragon scales. Keep in mind this is comic book logic, so if you have impervious skin then nothing can hurt you. Like this scene from Luke Cage for instance:

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Also, further I'd like to add this:

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Notice the emphasis on "skin". Luffy's punching through steel but he can't punch through Kaido's skin. It's clearly illustrated that this is the issue with attacking Kaido. He's impervious.

big moms skin is pretty impervious too and she aint got no dragon fruit

Yhamm

France7248 Posts

February 14 2020 14:33 GMT

#30467

https://imgur.com/gallery/TNFUuvR

Hyperbola

United States2554 Posts

February 14 2020 18:16 GMT

#30468

Jesus christ wrap it up already Oda

Ej_

47656 Posts

February 15 2020 04:35 GMT

#30469

Fuck off Oden hater

Zambrah

United States7393 Posts

February 15 2020 05:47 GMT

#30470

Oden is a not-so-living-LEGEND.

Imagine if Momonosuke had his father's LEGENDARY TESTICULAR FORTITUDE.

Dangermousecatdog

United Kingdom7084 Posts

February 15 2020 14:22 GMT

#30471

Oden at last making good use of his silly hairstyle.

Kaido, Big Mom, Oden, they all seem to have impervious skin. Clearly they all have dragon scales.

Yhamm

France7248 Posts

February 15 2020 15:22 GMT

#30472

better release before the official one tomorrow: https://imgur.com/gallery/VFhQLHL

Hyperbola

United States2554 Posts

February 15 2020 17:55 GMT

#30473

On February 15 2020 14:47 Zambrah wrote:
Oden is a not-so-living-LEGEND.

Imagine if Momonosuke had his father's LEGENDARY TESTICULAR FORTITUDE.

Oden's balls might be big but they're also about to be deep fried. Maybe if he had a little more brain matter he wouldn't be in this situation to begin with. I only hope Toki cheated on him with one of Whitebeard's crew so Momonosuke doesn't inherit his father's retardation.

evilfatsh1t

Australia8916 Posts

February 16 2020 02:52 GMT

#30474

On February 16 2020 02:55 Hyperbola wrote:

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seems like you seem to have a problem with virtually everything you read

Incognoto

France10239 Posts

February 16 2020 17:30 GMT

#30475

Yeah this thread is not exactly all that much fun to go through anymore.

Zambrah

United States7393 Posts

February 16 2020 19:47 GMT

#30476

Enel?

Ej_

47656 Posts

February 17 2020 07:35 GMT

#30477

Oden is Enel if Enel wasn't a little bitch

Zambrah

United States7393 Posts

February 17 2020 12:29 GMT

#30478

Thats Enels only character trait though

Ej_

47656 Posts

February 17 2020 14:13 GMT

#30479

Not true, he also had an afinity to baring his chest

Dangermousecatdog

United Kingdom7084 Posts

February 17 2020 17:07 GMT

#30480

Apparently Oden can go touring the towns to see if everything is all right, but in 5 years he never once checked if ships are being built? Or even checking how exactly is Kaido and his crew even manage to get to the island? Kaido even built a mansion, how can you not notice that? In the first place even with hostages, trusting the word of someone who got their position of power by deception and have openly stated their desire to ruin the country, strikes as ridiculously naive from someone who doubtless killed many as a pirate. And after being betrayed once, he trusts Kaido again with the boiling pot wager.

Where did he get that plank from?