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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 19 2015 13:35 GMT
#23221
70% is too much.

50% should be about right.

I've personally heard 15 more years of One Piece remain and that should be about right. There's still so much to do. :/
maru lover forever
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44255 Posts
September 19 2015 14:08 GMT
#23222
I thought Luffy would've gotten 500 million instead of 400 after the Marineford War since he wayyyy more trouble to the WG compared to the Enies Lobby event where his bounty skyrocketed to 300.
this is a quote
sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden890 Posts
September 19 2015 15:56 GMT
#23223
bounties will start becoming crazy which they allready have. Like in early one piece don krieg was known to have the biggest bounty in east blue of like 20 something million, if luffy starts having 1 billion beli and stuff it will just become dbz esque very quickly
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 19 2015 16:28 GMT
#23224
On September 19 2015 22:23 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2015 22:19 Hyperbola wrote:
You guys are acting like $500 million is a small number. Don Chinjao, the legendary pirate, has a $500 million bounty.

he is only the 3rd pirate to have a bounty superior (or equal) to 500m after Chinjao and Ace


I forget - were bounties in place for pirates like Whitebeard or any of the Yonkou before they came into their positions? I understand the high bounties for Chinjao and Ace (and a number of others approaching 500m, as well), but it always puzzled me that there was no one else with a higher bounty. Roger? His crew? Were bounties not in place back then? I haven't followed One Piece more than sporadically for a while so I might be forgetting details pertaining to this.
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Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
September 19 2015 16:58 GMT
#23225
On September 20 2015 01:28 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2015 22:23 Yhamm wrote:
On September 19 2015 22:19 Hyperbola wrote:
You guys are acting like $500 million is a small number. Don Chinjao, the legendary pirate, has a $500 million bounty.

he is only the 3rd pirate to have a bounty superior (or equal) to 500m after Chinjao and Ace


I forget - were bounties in place for pirates like Whitebeard or any of the Yonkou before they came into their positions? I understand the high bounties for Chinjao and Ace (and a number of others approaching 500m, as well), but it always puzzled me that there was no one else with a higher bounty. Roger? His crew? Were bounties not in place back then? I haven't followed One Piece more than sporadically for a while so I might be forgetting details pertaining to this.


I think they had bounties by it isn't divulged yet, like the one on Dragon or the current Yonkou.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 19 2015 17:48 GMT
#23226
On September 20 2015 01:28 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2015 22:23 Yhamm wrote:
On September 19 2015 22:19 Hyperbola wrote:
You guys are acting like $500 million is a small number. Don Chinjao, the legendary pirate, has a $500 million bounty.

he is only the 3rd pirate to have a bounty superior (or equal) to 500m after Chinjao and Ace


I forget - were bounties in place for pirates like Whitebeard or any of the Yonkou before they came into their positions? I understand the high bounties for Chinjao and Ace (and a number of others approaching 500m, as well), but it always puzzled me that there was no one else with a higher bounty. Roger? His crew? Were bounties not in place back then? I haven't followed One Piece more than sporadically for a while so I might be forgetting details pertaining to this.

Its almost a sure thing that Whitebeard and the Youkou, and Dragon and Roger for that matter, have Bounties. We just don't know what they are.

I for one am glad Luffy's Bounty isn't doubling like it used to. Defeating Crocodile gave him a 100M bounty. It was a bounty enough that Blackbeard thought that defeating Luffy would be enough to earn him a Shichibukai position. And then it went even further when he got 300M, a bounty which is still bigger than most current bounties we see in One Piece, only getting outdone by the true bigshots in the New World (like other Super Novas, or officers in a Youkou Crew). So, Luffy's bounty going to 400M and then 500M is okay with me, because if Oda kept up the exponential growth of his bounty, it would have started to demean and undermine bounties that he himself had been setting up for a long time, turning bounties into DBZ Power Levels.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
September 19 2015 17:50 GMT
#23227
On September 20 2015 01:28 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2015 22:23 Yhamm wrote:
On September 19 2015 22:19 Hyperbola wrote:
You guys are acting like $500 million is a small number. Don Chinjao, the legendary pirate, has a $500 million bounty.

he is only the 3rd pirate to have a bounty superior (or equal) to 500m after Chinjao and Ace


I forget - were bounties in place for pirates like Whitebeard or any of the Yonkou before they came into their positions? I understand the high bounties for Chinjao and Ace (and a number of others approaching 500m, as well), but it always puzzled me that there was no one else with a higher bounty. Roger? His crew? Were bounties not in place back then? I haven't followed One Piece more than sporadically for a while so I might be forgetting details pertaining to this.

either they don't have bounty (or bounties were canceled somehow - maybe like when pirate becomes shichibukai-) or they are just now known

bounties were definitely in place since the oldest known bounties are for the 2 giants and are more than 100 years old
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sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
September 19 2015 20:46 GMT
#23228
On September 19 2015 09:38 Chro wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
1)Its said "straw hat" as the group
2)See 1)
3)Everyone in the crew is a straw hat
4)No one cares who beat DF. DF directly blamed and told the city everything is usopp's fault.
5)It doesn't say if they want to collect the bounty, just that at some point someone in the strawhat crew's bounty (official or not official) was 500mil. Even if they did want to collect the bounty, they said they would make the current king uphold DF's deal. This was in relation to an arms deal but it could also mean the bounty deal.
6)See 5), 500mil bounty is used to reference someone that had a 500mil bounty on them. Usopp is the only one to fill that role. Also they want the current king to uphold and deals DF made so in the case that they did want to cash in on the bounty (which no one said they wanted to yet, only get revenge. Not money)
7)God usopp is also a straw hat.
8)The enemy fleet could be from inside or outside. Since it came the same way as the marines(because leo said he stitched them up) its more likely to be inside. Meaning those that got screwed over in a deal during the events there are upset a usopp since DF said it was all his fault.

You're going to feel so stupid when you realise you're wrong.
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
September 19 2015 23:25 GMT
#23229
2 sides of the coin, he could be a genius, I for one think that all the confusion could be solved with better translation. Also, Oda has never, to my memory, been so vague about 'a Straw Hat'. I want it to be Usopp but it's probably Luffy. But that would also make his 'future' bounty reveal so much less epic knowing it would be 500Mil already.
BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-19 23:54:54
September 19 2015 23:54 GMT
#23230
Straw Hat Usopp, the man who foiled Doflamingo, who has a 500M Bounty
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2551 Posts
September 20 2015 03:35 GMT
#23231
On September 20 2015 08:25 Sableyeah wrote:
2 sides of the coin, he could be a genius, I for one think that all the confusion could be solved with better translation. Also, Oda has never, to my memory, been so vague about 'a Straw Hat'. I want it to be Usopp but it's probably Luffy. But that would also make his 'future' bounty reveal so much less epic knowing it would be 500Mil already.

As far as I remember, there was never a reveal for the $400 million bounty either. We just got it as second hand knowledge after the time skip. There might not be another big bounty reveal unless it's Ussop or something with a $1 billion bounty.
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KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-20 07:38:07
September 20 2015 07:34 GMT
#23232
On September 19 2015 07:00 Sentenal wrote:
So, given the following:
1.) They said they were out for revenge against "Straw Hat", since he ruined their deal with Doflamingo
2.) Referred to said "Straw Hat" as being worth 500M
3.) Luffy is often simply referred to as "Straw Hat", since thats his title
4.) Luffy was the one who defeated Doflamingo
5.) Usopp's 500M Bounty was not an official bounty, but rather a private Bounty that Doflamingo put on his head, due to raging at Usopp beating Sugar and freeing the Toys (note, Doflamingo's plans were not foiled by this, although it certainly contributed)
6.) With Doflamingo defeated, said bounty is now null and void
7.) On Dressrosa, when people were going after the 500M Usopp, they didn't refer to him as "that Straw Hat", they referred to him as "God Usopp". Why would he go from "God Usopp" to "that Straw Hat"?
8.) People outside of Dressrosa would have never heard about that bounty in the first place.

On September 19 2015 09:38 Chro wrote:
1)Its said "straw hat" as the group
2)See 1)
3)Everyone in the crew is a straw hat
4)No one cares who beat DF. DF directly blamed and told the city everything is usopp's fault.
5)It doesn't say if they want to collect the bounty, just that at some point someone in the strawhat crew's bounty (official or not official) was 500mil. Even if they did want to collect the bounty, they said they would make the current king uphold DF's deal. This was in relation to an arms deal but it could also mean the bounty deal.
6)See 5), 500mil bounty is used to reference someone that had a 500mil bounty on them. Usopp is the only one to fill that role. Also they want the current king to uphold and deals DF made so in the case that they did want to cash in on the bounty (which no one said they wanted to yet, only get revenge. Not money)
7)God usopp is also a straw hat.
8)The enemy fleet could be from inside or outside. Since it came the same way as the marines(because leo said he stitched them up) its more likely to be inside. Meaning those that got screwed over in a deal during the events there are upset a usopp since DF said it was all his fault.

Given the argument, I bothered checking the raws. Since Japanese is ambiguous, I wouldn't be able to say with certainty what's being implied but the mangastream translation is still weird. A transliteration would be more like "The guy worth 500 million!!! If Straw Hat Luffy is here, bring out his [as in, whoever is worth 500 million] head!"
1) First of all as you can see, Luffy's name is specifically said. I don't get why Mangastream omitted Luffy's name, but it is possibly due to #2 below.
2) There is a clear sentence break between the 500 million and Luffy, so I can't tell if the first sentence refers to Luffy or not. Japanese is very contextual in its ambiguity, so it might make sense that they are referring to Usopp first. Although Luffy is specifically named, it is possible they only imply if Luffy is here, Usopp, a crewmate, must be here too. However, you could also read it as Oda using this as a way to convey Luffy's new bounty. I don't think either interpertation is inherently correct just looking at the words. The more I think about it, the more I suspect Mangastream doesn't know either and is being purposely ambiguous.
3) See 1/2
4) The Japanese says nothing about whose fault it is. They just say they're pissed their transaction failed. They do say they bare a grudge against "you," but then point 2 comes into play.
5) They say they will have King Riku finish the "deal," but what deal? It's quite possible they refer to the bounty DF put up, especially since the Japanese word implies they will receive money. If they're so pissed at their transaction being ruined but expect Riku to complete it, the text doesn't make much sense. The language makes more sense if they're saying they'll be taking someone's head as revenge and forcing DF's bounty to be paid up as a bonus, as opposed to taking someone's head for revenge then getting what they wanted originally anyway thus making the revenge kind of a random thing in that the text must be read as bouncing between ideas.
6) See 5
7) See 1/2
8) Japanese raw has nothing for or against this. However, remember it's been 3 days. If the issue is information, they only needed one person inside at the time who could then spread the news to the others involved in the transaction.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
September 20 2015 09:05 GMT
#23233
Sai vs Baby5 and Sai vs LaoG fight episode is out Go watch it, it's Good!

I actually liked the executive fights a lot more than Luffy vs Donflamingo because they felt like they had more satisfying endings when Donflamingo took forever to finally be beaten.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 20 2015 10:39 GMT
#23234
yeah that fight was pretty good

though I'm still going to wait for gear 4th in the anime

and for fuck's sake, give us the new bounties

500M isn't a lot tbh
maru lover forever
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44255 Posts
September 20 2015 10:47 GMT
#23235
When 4th gear happens in anime it's gonna be epic shit for sure.
this is a quote
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
September 20 2015 11:53 GMT
#23236
Another 7/8 months, leggo! We all still remember the Gear 2, so yeah, this one will and must be on that level!

The crew as a whole needs new bounty, new hype!
BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18625 Posts
September 20 2015 11:59 GMT
#23237
On September 20 2015 18:05 BlackMagister wrote:
Sai vs Baby5 and Sai vs LaoG fight episode is out Go watch it, it's Good!

I actually liked the executive fights a lot more than Luffy vs Donflamingo because they felt like they had more satisfying endings when Donflamingo took forever to finally be beaten.


Sai's character is awesome in that episode. Really been giving out SH vibes there.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
September 20 2015 18:20 GMT
#23238
On September 20 2015 16:34 KazeHydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2015 07:00 Sentenal wrote:
So, given the following:
1.) They said they were out for revenge against "Straw Hat", since he ruined their deal with Doflamingo
2.) Referred to said "Straw Hat" as being worth 500M
3.) Luffy is often simply referred to as "Straw Hat", since thats his title
4.) Luffy was the one who defeated Doflamingo
5.) Usopp's 500M Bounty was not an official bounty, but rather a private Bounty that Doflamingo put on his head, due to raging at Usopp beating Sugar and freeing the Toys (note, Doflamingo's plans were not foiled by this, although it certainly contributed)
6.) With Doflamingo defeated, said bounty is now null and void
7.) On Dressrosa, when people were going after the 500M Usopp, they didn't refer to him as "that Straw Hat", they referred to him as "God Usopp". Why would he go from "God Usopp" to "that Straw Hat"?
8.) People outside of Dressrosa would have never heard about that bounty in the first place.

Show nested quote +
On September 19 2015 09:38 Chro wrote:
1)Its said "straw hat" as the group
2)See 1)
3)Everyone in the crew is a straw hat
4)No one cares who beat DF. DF directly blamed and told the city everything is usopp's fault.
5)It doesn't say if they want to collect the bounty, just that at some point someone in the strawhat crew's bounty (official or not official) was 500mil. Even if they did want to collect the bounty, they said they would make the current king uphold DF's deal. This was in relation to an arms deal but it could also mean the bounty deal.
6)See 5), 500mil bounty is used to reference someone that had a 500mil bounty on them. Usopp is the only one to fill that role. Also they want the current king to uphold and deals DF made so in the case that they did want to cash in on the bounty (which no one said they wanted to yet, only get revenge. Not money)
7)God usopp is also a straw hat.
8)The enemy fleet could be from inside or outside. Since it came the same way as the marines(because leo said he stitched them up) its more likely to be inside. Meaning those that got screwed over in a deal during the events there are upset a usopp since DF said it was all his fault.


5) They say they will have King Riku finish the "deal," but what deal? It's quite possible they refer to the bounty DF put up, especially since the Japanese word implies they will receive money. If they're so pissed at their transaction being ruined but expect Riku to complete it, the text doesn't make much sense. The language makes more sense if they're saying they'll be taking someone's head as revenge and forcing DF's bounty to be paid up as a bonus, as opposed to taking someone's head for revenge then getting what they wanted originally anyway thus making the revenge kind of a random thing in that the text must be read as bouncing between ideas.

I'd assume any deal is in reference to whatever deal they have in place with Dofla in that underground trading hub. Likely weapons or something. And they still want what they've paid for (to Dofla), so they want Riku to uphold it as new king of Dressrosa.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
September 21 2015 16:46 GMT
#23239
On September 20 2015 18:05 BlackMagister wrote:
Sai vs Baby5 and Sai vs LaoG fight episode is out Go watch it, it's Good!

I actually liked the executive fights a lot more than Luffy vs Donflamingo because they felt like they had more satisfying endings when Donflamingo took forever to finally be beaten.


The only thing I didn't like about the lao g fight was the repetitiveness of the flashing of the name of his move before he attacked. The first instance was 5 in a row, which I found excessive. The baby 5 fight was good though! Poor baby 5! You're not useless!!!
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 21 2015 17:02 GMT
#23240
It's been mentioned that past 300 million bounties don't increase much (because there isn't really a point. What bounty hunter is able to capture someone worth 300 million+). Past that they are only useful to show how much the government wants to capture different pirates relative to each other.
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