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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-17 06:28:43
September 17 2015 06:27 GMT
#23201
However, it should be noted that Oda has stated that the end of Chapter 597 marks the end of the first half of One Piece. Oda has already planned the ending for One Piece. Despite how long it will take him to complete it, he will end One Piece the way he planned from the start.


http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/One_Piece_(Manga)

Still lots of One Piece left. Eight years?
Writer
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
September 17 2015 14:59 GMT
#23202
On September 17 2015 08:04 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Sableyeah showing the world that he doesn't understand what "at least" means.


Bwahahah I haven't felt 'attacked' by a someone in a very long time. I wonder what I said to make you type that. I have to admit that I was intoxicated but even if I read it back, it is a fine piece of text :p I was just trying to formulate my thoughts at that point. It was quite crisp.

Other than my numbers being way off, but that was typed before. So dunno, just a small miscalculation.
BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
Chro
Profile Joined May 2010
United States240 Posts
September 17 2015 15:46 GMT
#23203
On September 17 2015 15:17 Sharkey wrote:
[
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 15:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 16 2015 15:23 Incognoto wrote:
ah nice it came out a day early!

no new bounties >.>


The random pirate business partners of Doflamingo do mention $500 million for Luffy (though mangapanda translated it to 5 million). It could be some sort of underground bounty though.


This could be a reference to Usopp's bounty that Doflamingo gave to him (aka 5 stars with each star worth $100,000,000). The manga mentions straw hat member not straw hat (luffy) by name.


The bounty they're referring to is usopp's and not luffy's. They're the straw hat pirates and it was said 'is that 500mil straw hat among you?". More importantly with that bounty it'll make usopp the strongest in all of east blue which was another lie he told on thriller bark if i remember correctly.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 17 2015 21:06 GMT
#23204
Can anyone link to the comment the mangastream translation refers to?

Such an amazing chapter it's lifting even for me as a reader. Good God what can come next?
The heart's eternal vow
Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
September 17 2015 21:39 GMT
#23205
You should be able to see it here:
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/800/end
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 18 2015 00:56 GMT
#23206
On September 18 2015 00:46 Chro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 15:17 Sharkey wrote:
[
On September 16 2015 15:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 16 2015 15:23 Incognoto wrote:
ah nice it came out a day early!

no new bounties >.>


The random pirate business partners of Doflamingo do mention $500 million for Luffy (though mangapanda translated it to 5 million). It could be some sort of underground bounty though.


This could be a reference to Usopp's bounty that Doflamingo gave to him (aka 5 stars with each star worth $100,000,000). The manga mentions straw hat member not straw hat (luffy) by name.


The bounty they're referring to is usopp's and not luffy's. They're the straw hat pirates and it was said 'is that 500mil straw hat among you?". More importantly with that bounty it'll make usopp the strongest in all of east blue which was another lie he told on thriller bark if i remember correctly.

No, they are definitely referring to Luffy's. There are a few reasons why:
1.) Luffy is extremely often simply referred to as "Straw Hat" by people. Hell, even Franky just called Luffy that for a long time after joining the crew.
2.) Usopp's "Bounty" of 500M was not an official Bounty from the World Government, but rather a personal one Doflamingo put up. While it still was a Bounty, it was one that would have been paid by Doflamingo. And now, Doflamingo has been defeated and captured by the Marines. He isn't paying out any bounty right now, which makes all those bounties he put up now null and void.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-18 01:10:22
September 18 2015 01:09 GMT
#23207
On September 18 2015 09:56 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 00:46 Chro wrote:
On September 17 2015 15:17 Sharkey wrote:
[
On September 16 2015 15:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 16 2015 15:23 Incognoto wrote:
ah nice it came out a day early!

no new bounties >.>


The random pirate business partners of Doflamingo do mention $500 million for Luffy (though mangapanda translated it to 5 million). It could be some sort of underground bounty though.


This could be a reference to Usopp's bounty that Doflamingo gave to him (aka 5 stars with each star worth $100,000,000). The manga mentions straw hat member not straw hat (luffy) by name.


The bounty they're referring to is usopp's and not luffy's. They're the straw hat pirates and it was said 'is that 500mil straw hat among you?". More importantly with that bounty it'll make usopp the strongest in all of east blue which was another lie he told on thriller bark if i remember correctly.

No, they are definitely referring to Luffy's. There are a few reasons why:
1.) Luffy is extremely often simply referred to as "Straw Hat" by people. Hell, even Franky just called Luffy that for a long time after joining the crew.
2.) Usopp's "Bounty" of 500M was not an official Bounty from the World Government, but rather a personal one Doflamingo put up. While it still was a Bounty, it was one that would have been paid by Doflamingo. And now, Doflamingo has been defeated and captured by the Marines. He isn't paying out any bounty right now, which makes all those bounties he put up now null and void.

And to extend on those points: the birdcage was up, preventing communication (as I've come to understand it), which would also mean that Usopp's "bounty" was a localized event, unknown to those randoms showing up.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 18 2015 01:11 GMT
#23208
I'm not too sure of that. They are people who had a deal setup with Doflamigno, and Luffy winning destroyed their deal (which is why they are mad at 'Straw Hat'). So there is the possibility that they were inside of the Bird Cage, in the underground Port, doing business with the Family when shit hit the fan.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
September 18 2015 01:31 GMT
#23209
Yeah, that was a great chapter. Got some nice crew antics (which sadly are rare nowadays), the plot progressed, and we got some pretty major foreshadowing
Sharkey
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
668 Posts
September 18 2015 06:16 GMT
#23210
On September 18 2015 09:56 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 00:46 Chro wrote:
On September 17 2015 15:17 Sharkey wrote:
[
On September 16 2015 15:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 16 2015 15:23 Incognoto wrote:
ah nice it came out a day early!

no new bounties >.>


The random pirate business partners of Doflamingo do mention $500 million for Luffy (though mangapanda translated it to 5 million). It could be some sort of underground bounty though.


This could be a reference to Usopp's bounty that Doflamingo gave to him (aka 5 stars with each star worth $100,000,000). The manga mentions straw hat member not straw hat (luffy) by name.


The bounty they're referring to is usopp's and not luffy's. They're the straw hat pirates and it was said 'is that 500mil straw hat among you?". More importantly with that bounty it'll make usopp the strongest in all of east blue which was another lie he told on thriller bark if i remember correctly.

No, they are definitely referring to Luffy's. There are a few reasons why:
1.) Luffy is extremely often simply referred to as "Straw Hat" by people. Hell, even Franky just called Luffy that for a long time after joining the crew.
2.) Usopp's "Bounty" of 500M was not an official Bounty from the World Government, but rather a personal one Doflamingo put up. While it still was a Bounty, it was one that would have been paid by Doflamingo. And now, Doflamingo has been defeated and captured by the Marines. He isn't paying out any bounty right now, which makes all those bounties he put up now null and void.


That makes sense. So does that mean that Luffy has a $500 million bounty? Or the translation was wrong? Or the pro-DF crews were mistaken? It seems a new bounty would be the best option but that seems pretty quick new bounty to be released.

If anyone has any serious prayer requests please PM me. Thx.
terranghost
Profile Joined May 2010
United States980 Posts
September 18 2015 07:04 GMT
#23211
lol zoro drank it and luffy becomes a boss
"It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it." - Thomas Sowell
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 18 2015 08:02 GMT
#23212
On September 18 2015 06:39 Merany wrote:
You should be able to see it here:
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/800/end

Pretty interesting and funny. Thanks!
The heart's eternal vow
SkrollK
Profile Joined January 2015
France580 Posts
September 18 2015 15:31 GMT
#23213
On September 18 2015 15:16 Sharkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 09:56 Sentenal wrote:
On September 18 2015 00:46 Chro wrote:
On September 17 2015 15:17 Sharkey wrote:
[
On September 16 2015 15:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 16 2015 15:23 Incognoto wrote:
ah nice it came out a day early!

no new bounties >.>


The random pirate business partners of Doflamingo do mention $500 million for Luffy (though mangapanda translated it to 5 million). It could be some sort of underground bounty though.


This could be a reference to Usopp's bounty that Doflamingo gave to him (aka 5 stars with each star worth $100,000,000). The manga mentions straw hat member not straw hat (luffy) by name.


The bounty they're referring to is usopp's and not luffy's. They're the straw hat pirates and it was said 'is that 500mil straw hat among you?". More importantly with that bounty it'll make usopp the strongest in all of east blue which was another lie he told on thriller bark if i remember correctly.

No, they are definitely referring to Luffy's. There are a few reasons why:
1.) Luffy is extremely often simply referred to as "Straw Hat" by people. Hell, even Franky just called Luffy that for a long time after joining the crew.
2.) Usopp's "Bounty" of 500M was not an official Bounty from the World Government, but rather a personal one Doflamingo put up. While it still was a Bounty, it was one that would have been paid by Doflamingo. And now, Doflamingo has been defeated and captured by the Marines. He isn't paying out any bounty right now, which makes all those bounties he put up now null and void.


That makes sense. So does that mean that Luffy has a $500 million bounty? Or the translation was wrong? Or the pro-DF crews were mistaken? It seems a new bounty would be the best option but that seems pretty quick new bounty to be released.



I'm quite ok with all those arguments, but i can't help but think that the 500M bounty is LOW. Dunno, I feel like he just deserves way more :/ And if Luffy's 500M, what would be Zoro's ?!
Chro
Profile Joined May 2010
United States240 Posts
September 18 2015 15:48 GMT
#23214
On September 18 2015 09:56 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 00:46 Chro wrote:
On September 17 2015 15:17 Sharkey wrote:
[
On September 16 2015 15:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 16 2015 15:23 Incognoto wrote:
ah nice it came out a day early!

no new bounties >.>


The random pirate business partners of Doflamingo do mention $500 million for Luffy (though mangapanda translated it to 5 million). It could be some sort of underground bounty though.


This could be a reference to Usopp's bounty that Doflamingo gave to him (aka 5 stars with each star worth $100,000,000). The manga mentions straw hat member not straw hat (luffy) by name.


The bounty they're referring to is usopp's and not luffy's. They're the straw hat pirates and it was said 'is that 500mil straw hat among you?". More importantly with that bounty it'll make usopp the strongest in all of east blue which was another lie he told on thriller bark if i remember correctly.

No, they are definitely referring to Luffy's. There are a few reasons why:
1.) Luffy is extremely often simply referred to as "Straw Hat" by people. Hell, even Franky just called Luffy that for a long time after joining the crew.
2.) Usopp's "Bounty" of 500M was not an official Bounty from the World Government, but rather a personal one Doflamingo put up. While it still was a Bounty, it was one that would have been paid by Doflamingo. And now, Doflamingo has been defeated and captured by the Marines. He isn't paying out any bounty right now, which makes all those bounties he put up now null and void.


1) They would just say straw hat or luffy. It doesn't make sense to use such a roundabout way to name someone.

2)He doesn't state that they want to cash in on the bounty, they want revenge. It doesn't matter who gave the 500m bounty since they're using it as a point of reference. They are also criminals from inside the birdcage so that has a higher likelihood of being usopp when referring to 500mil. Since they want to seek revenge for messing up their deal, they would most likely hunt who messed everything up. DF directly blamed usopp when giving out the bounties.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 18 2015 22:00 GMT
#23215
So, given the following:
1.) They said they were out for revenge against "Straw Hat", since he ruined their deal with Doflamingo
2.) Referred to said "Straw Hat" as being worth 500M
3.) Luffy is often simply referred to as "Straw Hat", since thats his title
4.) Luffy was the one who defeated Doflamingo
5.) Usopp's 500M Bounty was not an official bounty, but rather a private Bounty that Doflamingo put on his head, due to raging at Usopp beating Sugar and freeing the Toys (note, Doflamingo's plans were not foiled by this, although it certainly contributed)
6.) With Doflamingo defeated, said bounty is now null and void
7.) On Dressrosa, when people were going after the 500M Usopp, they didn't refer to him as "that Straw Hat", they referred to him as "God Usopp". Why would he go from "God Usopp" to "that Straw Hat"?
8.) People outside of Dressrosa would have never heard about that bounty in the first place.

All these seem to suggest they are talking about Luffy. There is literally no evidence at all suggesting that they are referring to Usopp. 500M is probably Luffy's new bounty, since we all know hes getting a new one, thats just how One Piece works.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Chro
Profile Joined May 2010
United States240 Posts
September 19 2015 00:38 GMT
#23216
1)Its said "straw hat" as the group
2)See 1)
3)Everyone in the crew is a straw hat
4)No one cares who beat DF. DF directly blamed and told the city everything is usopp's fault.
5)It doesn't say if they want to collect the bounty, just that at some point someone in the strawhat crew's bounty (official or not official) was 500mil. Even if they did want to collect the bounty, they said they would make the current king uphold DF's deal. This was in relation to an arms deal but it could also mean the bounty deal.
6)See 5), 500mil bounty is used to reference someone that had a 500mil bounty on them. Usopp is the only one to fill that role. Also they want the current king to uphold and deals DF made so in the case that they did want to cash in on the bounty (which no one said they wanted to yet, only get revenge. Not money)
7)God usopp is also a straw hat.
8)The enemy fleet could be from inside or outside. Since it came the same way as the marines(because leo said he stitched them up) its more likely to be inside. Meaning those that got screwed over in a deal during the events there are upset a usopp since DF said it was all his fault.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 19 2015 02:01 GMT
#23217
So, if I'm understanding you right, you think that they are going after Usopp, and the only evidence you have for that is that he is a member of the crew. That is a very compelling arguement. My favorite part is how your "They are after Usopp" theory actually has some evidence that backs it up. Its a shame you were able to overturn logic and fact with the fact that Usopp is part of the crew.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
September 19 2015 02:39 GMT
#23218
Pretty sure they worded it that way because they weren't just addressing the SH crew but the large amount of people gathered there for the parent-child ceremony. Plus Luffy has a 500mil bounty so yea have to agree with Sent there. Really no evidence that they are talking about Usopp.
Never Knows Best.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
September 19 2015 13:19 GMT
#23219
You guys are acting like $500 million is a small number. Don Chinjao, the legendary pirate, has a $500 million bounty.
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Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-19 13:24:44
September 19 2015 13:23 GMT
#23220
On September 19 2015 22:19 Hyperbola wrote:
You guys are acting like $500 million is a small number. Don Chinjao, the legendary pirate, has a $500 million bounty.

he is only the 3rd pirate to have a bounty superior (or equal) to 500m after Chinjao and Ace
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