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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
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rei
United States3594 Posts
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Vortok
United States830 Posts
It seems quite reasonable to think that the bird cage is something that had to be prepared over a long period of time - and thus wouldn't be usable anywhere other than Dressrosa unless DD had just as much prep time. It stretches things a bit in terms of what we've seen out of other fruits, but it isn't completely unbelievable. Given that DD has an 'awakened' fruit that most other characters haven't had until now (or it hasn't been mentioned - inb4 all Admirals retconned to having awakened fruits), I'm willing to suspend my disbelief for awhile based on lack of knowledge + Oda being Oda. Almost certain to have a reasoning behind this that's relatively consistent within the OP world, at least based on how situations in the past have unfolded. Logia users looked like nigh-untouchable walking divinities for how long? Now they're just another fruit ability and the strong fighters know how to deal with them (fruit specific strategies aside). And it really does seem like it's just gonna be Zoro + Franky + whoever else slowing the cage enough for Luffy to have time to put down DD. Should have a few more surprises to go, though. Like CP0. And uh... Fujitora? Certainly not Sanji. He's already been written out of the series at this point, heh. Not sure how many of those will happen before DD is down for the count, though. | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
http://mangapark.me/manga/one-piece/s3/c766/16 | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
On May 23 2015 11:33 Vortok wrote: It's nice that haki hasn't turned into a magic bullet against devil fruits (aka, seastone handcuffs), and instead functions more like the glue that holds One Piece combat together so that characters can continue to have crazy, over the top abilities. It seems quite reasonable to think that the bird cage is something that had to be prepared over a long period of time - and thus wouldn't be usable anywhere other than Dressrosa unless DD had just as much prep time. It stretches things a bit in terms of what we've seen out of other fruits, but it isn't completely unbelievable. Given that DD has an 'awakened' fruit that most other characters haven't had until now (or it hasn't been mentioned - inb4 all Admirals retconned to having awakened fruits), I'm willing to suspend my disbelief for awhile based on lack of knowledge + Oda being Oda. Almost certain to have a reasoning behind this that's relatively consistent within the OP world, at least based on how situations in the past have unfolded. Logia users looked like nigh-untouchable walking divinities for how long? Now they're just another fruit ability and the strong fighters know how to deal with them (fruit specific strategies aside). And it really does seem like it's just gonna be Zoro + Franky + whoever else slowing the cage enough for Luffy to have time to put down DD. Should have a few more surprises to go, though. Like CP0. And uh... Fujitora? Certainly not Sanji. He's already been written out of the series at this point, heh. Not sure how many of those will happen before DD is down for the count, though. I feel like it would have been better if armament haki remained as a way to touch logias and create armor. Oda took it too far in making everyone's limbs turn into cast iron, IMO. Now it's like the mandatory "super saiyan" transformation that every character has to have except instead of blond hair and a gold aura it's black limbs/torso. It's too invasive to be the "glue that holds combat together." | ||
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Rehio
United States1718 Posts
On May 24 2015 05:17 Hyperbola wrote: I feel like it would have been better if armament haki remained as a way to touch logias and create armor. Oda took it too far in making everyone's limbs turn into cast iron, IMO. Now it's like the mandatory "super saiyan" transformation that every character has to have except instead of blond hair and a gold aura it's black limbs/torso. It's too invasive to be the "glue that holds combat together." I kind of wonder if the whole "cast iron limbs" is just a sort of.. artistic requirement? Like, he just needed some way to represent that it was being used. | ||
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Mensol
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Warfie
Norway2846 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On May 24 2015 06:07 Rehio wrote: I kind of wonder if the whole "cast iron limbs" is just a sort of.. artistic requirement? Like, he just needed some way to represent that it was being used. doesnt really matter, what if noone in the DBZ universe actually could see the gold hair? what would change? | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On May 24 2015 06:07 Rehio wrote: I kind of wonder if the whole "cast iron limbs" is just a sort of.. artistic requirement? Like, he just needed some way to represent that it was being used. Yeah. That's why if you look at earlier examples of haki there's no colouring. | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
The entire alabasta arc was so good in that regard | ||
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
If bartolomeo barrier is indestructible . . | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
On May 24 2015 22:54 XiaoJoyce- wrote: If birdcage can be push, If bartolomeo barrier is indestructible . . Yes but even if Bart put up a barrier that wouldn't stop the birdcage from pushing it into everyone so they get crushed regardless. | ||
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TMG26
Portugal2017 Posts
On May 24 2015 23:10 Slaughter wrote: Yes but even if Bart put up a barrier that wouldn't stop the birdcage from pushing it into everyone so they get crushed regardless. Bart's barrier is immovable i guess. Other wise, the king's punch would had pushed him. | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
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Mensol
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Sweet~~ This scene wasnt clear in manga. Hope we get to see his Haoshoku Haki on next arc. | ||
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Vortok
United States830 Posts
On May 23 2015 13:39 BlackMagister wrote: The prep idea with bird cage would be nice if it wasn't already used before on an island DD probably hadn't been to before. Remember the Corazon backstory where DD used it to prevent Corazon from fleeing the island thinking he had the DF. This is all the prep he did for bird cage, shoot some string from his hand. No saving haki no double bundling string. http://mangapark.me/manga/one-piece/s3/c766/16 I'd forgotten about that. No area specific prep needed, I guess. Theoretically there could be an internal prep time (aka, cooldown between uses) but that just seems like trying to cling to a limitation idea too much. Time will tell if it eventually makes sense and feels consistent or not. I will say that I don't particularly think it's the string fruit being ridiculously overpowered and instead is just DD being strong and using the fruit's abilities effectively. A similar level of ability could happen with other fruits, with the right user. As for haki and combat, it may be all but a requirement for high level fights at this point (even if some characters find ways to make things work without it), but it doesn't completely negate all previous (devil fruit) abilities and turn the fights into nothing more than haki vs haki. Armament vs armament kinda pushes that borderline (stronger armament haki breaks through the weaker one), which is why Luffy being able to combine his rubber ability to ignore blunt attacks while also using armament was significant (and seemed to be something DD wasn't expecting to happen). I seem to remember Akainu saying something that struck me as being fairly similar, about the offensive power of his particular devil fruit. Basically, haki is turning out to be an extra layer of combat, rather than simplifying everything by just completely overwriting and autowinning against non haki abilities. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18648 Posts
On May 25 2015 07:45 Mensol wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABZUP4euFio Sweet~~ This scene wasnt clear in manga. Hope we get to see his Haoshoku Haki on next arc. Zoro's evil smile the best in this scene! | ||
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Mensol
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Bird Cage is so strong that not even Zoro+Admiral can cut it down l o l. Doflamingo is a fkn boss. | ||
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