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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13086 Posts
January 22 2014 12:24 GMT
#8461
Wow so many words, letters and shit. This is a rare spectacle from Kubo.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 22 2014 14:46 GMT
#8462
On January 22 2014 17:16 MaZza[KIS] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 17:11 Beany wrote:
On January 22 2014 15:04 betaflame wrote:
Quincy vs shinigami? I thought this was special ability users vs shinigami. What is quincy? I thought they shoot arrows and stuff but we are getting wrestlers, iron man, razor, and a guy who ate the fire fire ffruit from one piece.

Lol, thanks for pointing that out. I kind of forgot about the true abilities of the quincy.
Well it didn't take Kubo that long to depart from that concept


So let me get this straight, in your world it should be:

1. Yuha sends all the quincies to a shadow realm
2. The quincy continue to practice the exact same techniques they had practiced for millennia before getting near exterminated by the shinigamy
3. The quincy come out of the shadows yelling "SURPRISE!" drawing bows and arrows and getting obliterated....

And you would complain less about that plot line? Why exactly?

your right instead of perfecting the tried and true techniques passed down there forefathers that they know inside out and know there not even using the full strength of, it makes more sense to use a new power they literally jsut got
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
January 22 2014 15:02 GMT
#8463
How did he not go deaf, mute and stuff during the 1000 years of inactivity? Or maybe I'm missing some Kubo special information.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 22 2014 15:08 GMT
#8464
On January 23 2014 00:02 sumsaR wrote:
How did he not go deaf, mute and stuff during the 1000 years of inactivity? Or maybe I'm missing some Kubo special information.

he probably did and got it all back when Misaki and the rest died
17Sphynx17
Profile Joined September 2011
580 Posts
January 22 2014 15:21 GMT
#8465
So wait, not only is he Quincy 1 or "the source".

+ Show Spoiler +

He can also give his soul instead of just drawing it from the area, am I right?

If he were not reobtaining souls from those he has "gifted", that would mean he would slowly "degrade" (vision, hearing etc).

So basically, it only benefits him if he has in some way "infected" the soul that perishes, be it hueco mundo, soul society or the real world, am I correct?

Did that explain how the Quincies (Who are human become immortal? That goes with Bach as well)

I am just confused with the immortality thing. They hid for 1000 years. Are the quincies with him the ones he hid with him during the last battle with Soul Society? Or are they descendants of the "survivors" of the war with shinigami?

I also could not follow the significance of the "letter" he draws onto you after the blood oath.

If say Bach is only appearing to be immortal by his continous obtaining of souls from those he infected, then did his current team of quincies gain their pseudo immortality from him via his gift of soul?



I am a bit confused. A big bit. hehe!
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 22 2014 15:23 GMT
#8466
On January 23 2014 00:21 17Sphynx17 wrote:
So wait, not only is he Quincy 1 or "the source".

+ Show Spoiler +

He can also give his soul instead of just drawing it from the area, am I right?

If he were not reobtaining souls from those he has "gifted", that would mean he would slowly "degrade" (vision, hearing etc).

So basically, it only benefits him if he has in some way "infected" the soul that perishes, be it hueco mundo, soul society or the real world, am I correct?

Did that explain how the Quincies (Who are human become immortal? That goes with Bach as well)

I am just confused with the immortality thing. They hid for 1000 years. Are the quincies with him the ones he hid with him during the last battle with Soul Society? Or are they descendants of the "survivors" of the war with shinigami?

I also could not follow the significance of the "letter" he draws onto you after the blood oath.

If say Bach is only appearing to be immortal by his continous obtaining of souls from those he infected, then did his current team of quincies gain their pseudo immortality from him via his gift of soul?



I am a bit confused. A big bit. hehe!

remember each of the quincies has a power based on a letter like the explode, the voice, the overkill e.t.c
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 15:34:26
January 22 2014 15:33 GMT
#8467
On January 22 2014 23:46 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 17:16 MaZza[KIS] wrote:
On January 22 2014 17:11 Beany wrote:
On January 22 2014 15:04 betaflame wrote:
Quincy vs shinigami? I thought this was special ability users vs shinigami. What is quincy? I thought they shoot arrows and stuff but we are getting wrestlers, iron man, razor, and a guy who ate the fire fire ffruit from one piece.

Lol, thanks for pointing that out. I kind of forgot about the true abilities of the quincy.
Well it didn't take Kubo that long to depart from that concept


So let me get this straight, in your world it should be:

1. Yuha sends all the quincies to a shadow realm
2. The quincy continue to practice the exact same techniques they had practiced for millennia before getting near exterminated by the shinigamy
3. The quincy come out of the shadows yelling "SURPRISE!" drawing bows and arrows and getting obliterated....

And you would complain less about that plot line? Why exactly?

your right instead of perfecting the tried and true techniques passed down there forefathers that they know inside out and know there not even using the full strength of, it makes more sense to use a new power they literally jsut got


Holy crap this writing is painful. These three have different meanings: "there, they are, their".
Revolutionist fan
AXygnus
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Portugal1008 Posts
January 22 2014 16:16 GMT
#8468
On January 23 2014 00:08 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 00:02 sumsaR wrote:
How did he not go deaf, mute and stuff during the 1000 years of inactivity? Or maybe I'm missing some Kubo special information.

he probably did and got it all back when Misaki and the rest died


Guess it explains why he only came back now
"To create, to recreate. To create, to recreate. Down to the last seed, I stand with a dark stare. Still silent. Still frighteningly silent."
Phyrful
Profile Joined July 2011
United States248 Posts
January 22 2014 16:48 GMT
#8469
I think the extermination of the Quincies by the shinigami 200 years prior to the storyline is what triggered Bachs awakening. I think the soul king probably has a similar power as well, applied to shinigami, and can create humans with his soul
"It's a choose, not a perfumation"-Lina
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 22 2014 16:53 GMT
#8470
On January 23 2014 00:21 17Sphynx17 wrote:
So wait, not only is he Quincy 1 or "the source".

+ Show Spoiler +

He can also give his soul instead of just drawing it from the area, am I right?

If he were not reobtaining souls from those he has "gifted", that would mean he would slowly "degrade" (vision, hearing etc).

So basically, it only benefits him if he has in some way "infected" the soul that perishes, be it hueco mundo, soul society or the real world, am I correct?

Did that explain how the Quincies (Who are human become immortal? That goes with Bach as well)

I am just confused with the immortality thing. They hid for 1000 years. Are the quincies with him the ones he hid with him during the last battle with Soul Society? Or are they descendants of the "survivors" of the war with shinigami?

I also could not follow the significance of the "letter" he draws onto you after the blood oath.

If say Bach is only appearing to be immortal by his continous obtaining of souls from those he infected, then did his current team of quincies gain their pseudo immortality from him via his gift of soul?



I am a bit confused. A big bit. hehe!


I don't think that Bach's follower are immortal. Just because Bach has been missing for a millenium and appeared now does not mean that the current Sternritter who also appeared now were alive a millenium ago.

Maybe Bach cannot die naturally as long as he has enough souls to feed upon and either he was in hibernation the whole time he was missing, surviving on a bare minimum of souls that his followers provided him, or something happened that it took so long for him to regain his powers.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 22 2014 16:56 GMT
#8471
On January 23 2014 01:48 Phyrful wrote:
I think the extermination of the Quincies by the shinigami 200 years prior to the storyline is what triggered Bachs awakening. I think the soul king probably has a similar power as well, applied to shinigami, and can create humans with his soul

except bach was there when the Shinigami exterminated the quincies
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 22 2014 16:56 GMT
#8472
On January 23 2014 01:48 Phyrful wrote:
I think the extermination of the Quincies by the shinigami 200 years prior to the storyline is what triggered Bachs awakening. I think the soul king probably has a similar power as well, applied to shinigami, and can create humans with his soul


Does that mean that Bach is behind the extermination of the Quincies? He doesn't benefit from some random Quincy dying, only if he has part of his soul infused with him. So in order for him to awake because of that, somebody has to have made contact between the Quincies that were killed and his soul.
Takuma
Profile Joined January 2014
146 Posts
January 22 2014 17:22 GMT
#8473
Bleach makes me want to... Drink a bottle of bleach... Someone made a post saying we come here to bash Bleach because it's the fad thing to do, but all I am doing is expressing my honest, real feelings after reading the last chapter... I don't care if it's in or whatever, it's just how I feel...
Phyrful
Profile Joined July 2011
United States248 Posts
January 22 2014 17:31 GMT
#8474
On January 23 2014 01:56 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 01:48 Phyrful wrote:
I think the extermination of the Quincies by the shinigami 200 years prior to the storyline is what triggered Bachs awakening. I think the soul king probably has a similar power as well, applied to shinigami, and can create humans with his soul


Does that mean that Bach is behind the extermination of the Quincies? He doesn't benefit from some random Quincy dying, only if he has part of his soul infused with him. So in order for him to awake because of that, somebody has to have made contact between the Quincies that were killed and his soul.


All Quincies are descended from Bach by blood, so that's probably the part of the soul sufficient to return to him. Ichigo's Zangetsu glasses dude is an example of this- even though Ichigo never personally met Bach, his Quincy blood materializes as Bach in his inner world.

The resurrection of Bach from the extermination of quincies was probably an unexpected consequence
"It's a choose, not a perfumation"-Lina
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
January 22 2014 20:53 GMT
#8475
Totally thought he was explaining the Soul King and why he's the king. Then boom it's actually just Bach and his power.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
January 23 2014 07:21 GMT
#8476
Confused... need more information...
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 23 2014 08:23 GMT
#8477
On January 23 2014 02:31 Phyrful wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 01:56 JustPassingBy wrote:
On January 23 2014 01:48 Phyrful wrote:
I think the extermination of the Quincies by the shinigami 200 years prior to the storyline is what triggered Bachs awakening. I think the soul king probably has a similar power as well, applied to shinigami, and can create humans with his soul


Does that mean that Bach is behind the extermination of the Quincies? He doesn't benefit from some random Quincy dying, only if he has part of his soul infused with him. So in order for him to awake because of that, somebody has to have made contact between the Quincies that were killed and his soul.


All Quincies are descended from Bach by blood, so that's probably the part of the soul sufficient to return to him. Ichigo's Zangetsu glasses dude is an example of this- even though Ichigo never personally met Bach, his Quincy blood materializes as Bach in his inner world.

The resurrection of Bach from the extermination of quincies was probably an unexpected consequence

Bach was present at the extermination, thats when CC and him fought and CC fialed to kill him

then Bach escaped into the shadows (presumably) and time passed, then jsut before Misaki died he called back power from quincies bringing himself back and killing them in the process
zz_
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1022 Posts
January 23 2014 09:38 GMT
#8478
Cute detail that Young Basch is Tensa (Zangetsu's manifestation in bankai form, + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
), while old Basch was normal Zangetsu.

Anyway, I'm mostly interested in the fact that inscribing his letters are supposed to give his followers a power boost. Does this boost only work on quincies? Or has he actually buffed the Shinigami?

And if it DOES only work on Quincies, did he give Ichigo a letter?
In the absence of justice, what is sovereignty but organized robbery?
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
January 23 2014 11:40 GMT
#8479
I thought Ishida was supposed to succeed Bach, and not die for him? And does this mean that James and wrestler dude held Bach's obnoxiousness and now it returned to him?
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 23 2014 14:59 GMT
#8480
On January 23 2014 18:38 zz_ wrote:
Cute detail that Young Basch is Tensa (Zangetsu's manifestation in bankai form, + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
), while old Basch was normal Zangetsu.

Anyway, I'm mostly interested in the fact that inscribing his letters are supposed to give his followers a power boost. Does this boost only work on quincies? Or has he actually buffed the Shinigami?

And if it DOES only work on Quincies, did he give Ichigo a letter?

did Ichigo drink a cup of his blood?
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