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On June 13 2013 06:15 Comogury wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 01:54 Forikorder wrote:On June 13 2013 01:47 -y0shi- wrote:On June 13 2013 01:42 hooahah wrote:
"I didn't want you to die so I held back most of your power"
glorious logic This actually makes sense, he didnt want him to use his shinigami power and stopped them, he knew the hollow would safe him anyways if he didnt want him to use Shinigami power then why did he A) teach him Bankai B) teach him the final Getsuga and C) never attempt to ever teach him a single quincy move? actually teaching him the final getsuga falls in line with how he wanted to keep ichigo from becoming a shinigami since he did end up losing his shinigami powers as a result of using it.
Well, actually we just know he lost his "visable" powers. Things like spiritual awareness and reiatsu were gone, but we don't know how much of that was Zangetsu Bach hiding stuff from him after going through such a huge transformation, just like we don't know how close his old zanpakutou will be related to his real one.
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Fake Zengetsu helping Ichigo when he was getting his ass kicked by Kenpachi kind of contradicts what he just said but fuck it. new Ichigo design incoming
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On June 13 2013 06:15 Comogury wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 01:54 Forikorder wrote:On June 13 2013 01:47 -y0shi- wrote:On June 13 2013 01:42 hooahah wrote:
"I didn't want you to die so I held back most of your power"
glorious logic This actually makes sense, he didnt want him to use his shinigami power and stopped them, he knew the hollow would safe him anyways if he didnt want him to use Shinigami power then why did he A) teach him Bankai B) teach him the final Getsuga and C) never attempt to ever teach him a single quincy move? actually teaching him the final getsuga falls in line with how he wanted to keep ichigo from becoming a shinigami since he did end up losing his shinigami powers as a result of using it.
he also lost his quincy powers and almost died as a result why not teach him Quincy holy form instead?
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On June 13 2013 09:01 Zeo1990 wrote:
Fake Zengetsu helping Ichigo when he was getting his ass kicked by Kenpachi kind of contradicts what he just said but fuck it. new Ichigo design incoming
This is probably the part I'm most looking forward to. :D I like bleach art and redesigns are awesome ^^.
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On June 13 2013 12:38 Latham wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 09:01 Zeo1990 wrote:
Fake Zengetsu helping Ichigo when he was getting his ass kicked by Kenpachi kind of contradicts what he just said but fuck it. new Ichigo design incoming This is probably the part I'm most looking forward to. :D I like bleach art and redesigns are awesome ^^.
hes probably going to look the exact same only everything will be white, now that his opponents are black he cant be black anymore so now hes white
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I like this better than Naruto now.
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The cheesiest protagonist-gets-a-power-up plot I've seen in a while now.
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Olli
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On June 13 2013 08:37 -y0shi- wrote:
I just noticed something. Maybe the quincys couldn steal his bankai because what we called his bankai was never his bankai to begin with but just some other power that old man released when ever ichigo tried to use "bankai"
That makes sense which means there's like a 90% chance of it being wrong
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So forgive me for asking this possibly n00b question.
As i've just finally read up on the whole manga - it's been slow at work :D - one thing is strange to me.
And yes, you're gonna laugh at this question, but:
I'm reading the manga through the site mangareader, is the manga always just black/white? Or is it just the site? 
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On June 14 2013 00:20 Beany wrote:So forgive me for asking this possibly n00b question. As i've just finally read up on the whole manga - it's been slow at work :D - one thing is strange to me. And yes, you're gonna laugh at this question, but: I'm reading the manga through the site mangareader, is the manga always just black/white? Or is it just the site?
Color pages is considered 'special' in manga, as it's much more time consuming and challenging. Usually just color opening spreads and such where you'll see that. Some korean mangwa goes color, though, but it's really rare for full color chapters in japanese manga (though I'm sure there are exceptions, just none that I read or know about).
In short, no there's nothing wrong with your eyes nor do the hosting sites make everything black and white.
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On June 13 2013 15:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 08:37 -y0shi- wrote:
I just noticed something. Maybe the quincys couldn steal his bankai because what we called his bankai was never his bankai to begin with but just some other power that old man released when ever ichigo tried to use "bankai" That makes sense which means there's like a 90% chance of it being wrong
if anything Zangetsu supressing his power would make it easier to steal since Bach explained it as simply a power struggle
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On June 14 2013 00:33 sumsaR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 00:20 Beany wrote:So forgive me for asking this possibly n00b question. As i've just finally read up on the whole manga - it's been slow at work :D - one thing is strange to me. And yes, you're gonna laugh at this question, but: I'm reading the manga through the site mangareader, is the manga always just black/white? Or is it just the site? Color pages is considered 'special' in manga, as it's much more time consuming and challenging. Usually just color opening spreads and such where you'll see that. Some korean mangwa goes color, though, but it's really rare for full color chapters in japanese manga (though I'm sure there are exceptions, just none that I read or know about). In short, no there's nothing wrong with your eyes nor do the hosting sites make everything black and white.
Thanks for explaining!
I do find some pages really hard to view, specially battles.
But overall, i <3 the manga, obviously
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Wonder if that means they will be able to steal ichigos bankai now
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On June 13 2013 01:41 DrGreen wrote:
I don't get it....
So White Ichigo is his zanpaktou (it was made similar way asauchis are made), and this Hollow is responsible for sword powers, shikai, bankai etc.
The same hollow represents his hollow powers. Mask, ceros, transformations etc.
Then... this very hollow/zanpaktou, being a zangetsu, showed up and helped Ichigo survive and resurrect, but yet it didn't show it's true form? Bach was still restricting it's powers?!
And how to explain the Final Getsuga thing? At least we know why he lost his hollow powers as well, but Quincy stuff should still be inside him and he should be able to see ghosts and stuff, unless once again Juha was a bitch and didn't let him use Quincy powers.
It's all... so fucking messed up. I wish we get some graphical explanation in next chapter (same way Rukia did it in the first chapters, or same way it's done is some other mangas)
How did his Dad know about the Final Form anyway? We had always assumed his dad lost his powers because he used it himself, but it turns out he just wanted to impress/save the mother.
So apparently every generic captain can learn the final form?
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reading bleach is just like a car accident.
up until now we've just been watching the two cars head towards each other....now they are finally colliding...CANNOT LOOK AWAY.
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Olli
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On June 14 2013 17:40 TyrantPotato wrote:
reading bleach is just like a car accident.
up until now we've just been watching the two cars head towards each other....now they are finally colliding...CANNOT LOOK AWAY.
Bleach is more of an accident like this:
Two cars crash into each other, there's a huge fucking explosion but nobody gets seriously harmed. So hey, it looked cool! Then another car crashes into those two and you're like "wtf, how did we not see that car coming?". The only one who dies is the driver of the third car. Then a bus crashes into the pile of cars and you're like "oh come on, it's getting ridiculous...", still only very few casualties but more and more explosions. Then a derailed train comes along and everybody is blinded by the massive explosion that somehow AGAIN manages not to kill anyone. Then suddenly someone steps out of the train and shouts "There's an airplane inside your car!"
And then there actually is an airplane inside the car and everything explodes again. Then everybody turns into a butterfly.
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On June 14 2013 17:39 igotmyown wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 01:41 DrGreen wrote:
I don't get it....
So White Ichigo is his zanpaktou (it was made similar way asauchis are made), and this Hollow is responsible for sword powers, shikai, bankai etc.
The same hollow represents his hollow powers. Mask, ceros, transformations etc.
Then... this very hollow/zanpaktou, being a zangetsu, showed up and helped Ichigo survive and resurrect, but yet it didn't show it's true form? Bach was still restricting it's powers?!
And how to explain the Final Getsuga thing? At least we know why he lost his hollow powers as well, but Quincy stuff should still be inside him and he should be able to see ghosts and stuff, unless once again Juha was a bitch and didn't let him use Quincy powers.
It's all... so fucking messed up. I wish we get some graphical explanation in next chapter (same way Rukia did it in the first chapters, or same way it's done is some other mangas) How did his Dad know about the Final Form anyway? We had always assumed his dad lost his powers because he used it himself, but it turns out he just wanted to impress/save the mother. So apparently every generic captain can learn the final form?
That's something I've been wondering as well. Like I said earlier though, the only people that have any insight to Ichigo's power/zanpakuto would be his dad, Urahara, and sword smith guy (and Ichigo's inner people). There's a possibility there were a lot of lies going around. I would like an explanation in the future at some time, and we'll probably get one.
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I've realized the explanations just make things worse
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On June 14 2013 17:39 igotmyown wrote:
How did his Dad know about the Final Form anyway? We had always assumed his dad lost his powers because he used it himself, but it turns out he just wanted to impress/save the mother.
So apparently every generic captain can learn the final form?
Well he knew about it but it has never been said he used it, its quite possible that both shinigami and quincy have that kind of "final form".
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On June 14 2013 18:49 alone wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 17:39 igotmyown wrote:
How did his Dad know about the Final Form anyway? We had always assumed his dad lost his powers because he used it himself, but it turns out he just wanted to impress/save the mother.
So apparently every generic captain can learn the final form? Well he knew about it but it has never been said he used it, its quite possible that both shinigami and quincy have that kind of "final form".
Then the kamikaze baddies would use it to a biggest extent, than what it is now of "none at all".
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