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StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 21:04:35
June 14 2013 21:04 GMT
#7241
On June 15 2013 05:49 Chillax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2013 05:47 growl wrote:
If you take the "le" out of "Bleach", you get "Bach". The new villain is named Juha Bach. Coincidence? Or did Kubo plan that from the start??


You don't seriously believe Kubo ever had a plan?


Stalling. That's the plan.
AXygnus
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Portugal1008 Posts
June 14 2013 21:06 GMT
#7242
On June 15 2013 04:19 BurningSera wrote:
I wondered why 'Bleach' too but i never look it up:

Show nested quote +
The title wasn't Bleach when Tite Kubo decided to draw a story about Shinigami. This was before he drew the one-shot manga that appeared in Akamaru Jump. The weapon wasn't a sword, but a scythe. Only Rukia had a scythe and the other characters used guns. At that point, the title was Snipe (as in "Sniper"). Right before he started drawing, he began to think that a sword would be better and realized he couldn't use Snipe as a title anymore. He began looking for a title that grasped the bigger picture. Shinigami are associated with the color black, but it would have been boring to use "black". "White", on the other hand, can suggest black as a complementary color. So Tite Kubo chose "bleach" to evoke the impression of the color white.


Somehow the title shows the deepness of the manga.


You now realize that Zangetsu's release command will be Bleach. Book it.
You may also post your face.
"To create, to recreate. To create, to recreate. Down to the last seed, I stand with a dark stare. Still silent. Still frighteningly silent."
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 14 2013 21:11 GMT
#7243
On June 15 2013 05:49 Chillax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2013 05:47 growl wrote:
If you take the "le" out of "Bleach", you get "Bach". The new villain is named Juha Bach. Coincidence? Or did Kubo plan that from the start??


You don't seriously believe Kubo ever had a plan?

Should be: "Since when were you under the impression that Kubo had a plan?"
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 14 2013 21:22 GMT
#7244
On June 15 2013 06:11 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2013 05:49 Chillax wrote:
On June 15 2013 05:47 growl wrote:
If you take the "le" out of "Bleach", you get "Bach". The new villain is named Juha Bach. Coincidence? Or did Kubo plan that from the start??


You don't seriously believe Kubo ever had a plan?

Should be: "Since when were you under the impression that Kubo had a plan?"


Well, tbh, I am almost certain that he had the idea of his dad being a shanigami and his mom being a quincy for a while now. It's not a hard idea to come by. But it's hard to say if he was sure this is the path he wanted the story to go 5 years ago.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
growl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States203 Posts
June 14 2013 21:26 GMT
#7245
On June 15 2013 05:49 Chillax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2013 05:47 growl wrote:
If you take the "le" out of "Bleach", you get "Bach". The new villain is named Juha Bach. Coincidence? Or did Kubo plan that from the start??


You don't seriously believe Kubo ever had a plan?

If I did think he had a plan, I'm pretty sure the big plot twist would not be that Bleach is somehow named after Juha Bach or vice-versa. I'd like to give him more credit than that haha.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 14 2013 21:29 GMT
#7246
Kubo was originally writing a ragecomic with Ichigo and Juha Bach, and then he saw the light:
*le Bach
-> leB ach
-> lBe ach
-> Ble ach
-> Bleach

Genius!
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 15 2013 03:37 GMT
#7247
On June 15 2013 06:22 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2013 06:11 ZenithM wrote:
On June 15 2013 05:49 Chillax wrote:
On June 15 2013 05:47 growl wrote:
If you take the "le" out of "Bleach", you get "Bach". The new villain is named Juha Bach. Coincidence? Or did Kubo plan that from the start??


You don't seriously believe Kubo ever had a plan?

Should be: "Since when were you under the impression that Kubo had a plan?"


Well, tbh, I am almost certain that he had the idea of his dad being a shanigami and his mom being a quincy for a while now. It's not a hard idea to come by. But it's hard to say if he was sure this is the path he wanted the story to go 5 years ago.



that doesnt count as having a plan, creating characters with a basic history upon creation is called the bare minumum

i think his dad has been a Shinigami all along but his mom definently wasnt a quincy from the start
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-15 05:24:04
June 15 2013 05:23 GMT
#7248
On June 15 2013 12:37 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2013 06:22 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 15 2013 06:11 ZenithM wrote:
On June 15 2013 05:49 Chillax wrote:
On June 15 2013 05:47 growl wrote:
If you take the "le" out of "Bleach", you get "Bach". The new villain is named Juha Bach. Coincidence? Or did Kubo plan that from the start??


You don't seriously believe Kubo ever had a plan?

Should be: "Since when were you under the impression that Kubo had a plan?"


Well, tbh, I am almost certain that he had the idea of his dad being a shanigami and his mom being a quincy for a while now. It's not a hard idea to come by. But it's hard to say if he was sure this is the path he wanted the story to go 5 years ago.



that doesnt count as having a plan, creating characters with a basic history upon creation is called the bare minumum

i think his dad has been a Shinigami all along but his mom definently wasnt a quincy from the start


I can actually see the part about his mom being a quincy from the start (at least in kobo's head). I don't really see how he could have prepared the part about the sword.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
June 15 2013 05:41 GMT
#7249
On June 14 2013 00:33 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 00:20 Beany wrote:
So forgive me for asking this possibly n00b question.
As i've just finally read up on the whole manga - it's been slow at work :D - one thing is strange to me.
And yes, you're gonna laugh at this question, but:
I'm reading the manga through the site mangareader, is the manga always just black/white? Or is it just the site?

Color pages is considered 'special' in manga, as it's much more time consuming and challenging. Usually just color opening spreads and such where you'll see that. Some korean mangwa goes color, though, but it's really rare for full color chapters in japanese manga (though I'm sure there are exceptions, just none that I read or know about).

In short, no there's nothing wrong with your eyes nor do the hosting sites make everything black and white.

I think Urasawa made a special full-colored first chapter for Pluto to celebrate the release as well as Tezuka's (or Astro Boy's?) birthday.

Can't remember any other occasion when a mangaka went full-color for more than a spread. Oda does it a lot with OP, though, more than others.
The heart's eternal vow
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 15 2013 05:44 GMT
#7250
On June 15 2013 14:23 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2013 12:37 Forikorder wrote:
On June 15 2013 06:22 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 15 2013 06:11 ZenithM wrote:
On June 15 2013 05:49 Chillax wrote:
On June 15 2013 05:47 growl wrote:
If you take the "le" out of "Bleach", you get "Bach". The new villain is named Juha Bach. Coincidence? Or did Kubo plan that from the start??


You don't seriously believe Kubo ever had a plan?

Should be: "Since when were you under the impression that Kubo had a plan?"


Well, tbh, I am almost certain that he had the idea of his dad being a shanigami and his mom being a quincy for a while now. It's not a hard idea to come by. But it's hard to say if he was sure this is the path he wanted the story to go 5 years ago.



that doesnt count as having a plan, creating characters with a basic history upon creation is called the bare minumum

i think his dad has been a Shinigami all along but his mom definently wasnt a quincy from the start


I can actually see the part about his mom being a quincy from the start (at least in kobo's head). I don't really see how he could have prepared the part about the sword.

if his mom had been a quincy from the start then she wouldnt ahve been fooled by grand fisher and how does one captain class shinigami getting busy with one pure blood quincy even have a daughter with no spiriual power at all?
SupaChicken
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia273 Posts
June 15 2013 15:28 GMT
#7251
On June 15 2013 14:44 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2013 14:23 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 15 2013 12:37 Forikorder wrote:
On June 15 2013 06:22 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 15 2013 06:11 ZenithM wrote:
On June 15 2013 05:49 Chillax wrote:
On June 15 2013 05:47 growl wrote:
If you take the "le" out of "Bleach", you get "Bach". The new villain is named Juha Bach. Coincidence? Or did Kubo plan that from the start??


You don't seriously believe Kubo ever had a plan?

Should be: "Since when were you under the impression that Kubo had a plan?"


Well, tbh, I am almost certain that he had the idea of his dad being a shanigami and his mom being a quincy for a while now. It's not a hard idea to come by. But it's hard to say if he was sure this is the path he wanted the story to go 5 years ago.



that doesnt count as having a plan, creating characters with a basic history upon creation is called the bare minumum

i think his dad has been a Shinigami all along but his mom definently wasnt a quincy from the start


I can actually see the part about his mom being a quincy from the start (at least in kobo's head). I don't really see how he could have prepared the part about the sword.

if his mom had been a quincy from the start then she wouldnt ahve been fooled by grand fisher and how does one captain class shinigami getting busy with one pure blood quincy even have a daughter with no spiriual power at all?


Read it again. She wasn't fooled by Grand Fisher, Ichigo was. She was just trying to protect him. She even tells him not to go. http://www.mangapanda.com/94-473-13/bleach/chapter-19.html

And Yuzu doesn't have no power at all, she can sense spirits and knows they are there she just can't see them. All she would need is a bit of training and she would be able to see them too. Karin has just a little more power. Honestly with the right training, Yuzu and Karin could probably become quite powerful Quincy.
I need a new quote...
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 15 2013 15:51 GMT
#7252
On June 16 2013 00:28 SupaChicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2013 14:44 Forikorder wrote:
On June 15 2013 14:23 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 15 2013 12:37 Forikorder wrote:
On June 15 2013 06:22 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 15 2013 06:11 ZenithM wrote:
On June 15 2013 05:49 Chillax wrote:
On June 15 2013 05:47 growl wrote:
If you take the "le" out of "Bleach", you get "Bach". The new villain is named Juha Bach. Coincidence? Or did Kubo plan that from the start??


You don't seriously believe Kubo ever had a plan?

Should be: "Since when were you under the impression that Kubo had a plan?"


Well, tbh, I am almost certain that he had the idea of his dad being a shanigami and his mom being a quincy for a while now. It's not a hard idea to come by. But it's hard to say if he was sure this is the path he wanted the story to go 5 years ago.



that doesnt count as having a plan, creating characters with a basic history upon creation is called the bare minumum

i think his dad has been a Shinigami all along but his mom definently wasnt a quincy from the start


I can actually see the part about his mom being a quincy from the start (at least in kobo's head). I don't really see how he could have prepared the part about the sword.

if his mom had been a quincy from the start then she wouldnt ahve been fooled by grand fisher and how does one captain class shinigami getting busy with one pure blood quincy even have a daughter with no spiriual power at all?


Read it again. She wasn't fooled by Grand Fisher, Ichigo was. She was just trying to protect him. She even tells him not to go. http://www.mangapanda.com/94-473-13/bleach/chapter-19.html

And Yuzu doesn't have no power at all, she can sense spirits and knows they are there she just can't see them. All she would need is a bit of training and she would be able to see them too. Karin has just a little more power. Honestly with the right training, Yuzu and Karin could probably become quite powerful Quincy.

and the reason she didnt sense grand fisher a mile away and avoid him is...?

Karin and Yuzu are not powerful, they have absolutely no strength at all dont try to pretend otherwise

Karin might at best be able to take down a hollow with enough training
issh
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands96 Posts
June 15 2013 16:38 GMT
#7253
just ignore Forikorder, hes retarded
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
June 15 2013 17:05 GMT
#7254
On June 16 2013 00:51 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2013 00:28 SupaChicken wrote:
On June 15 2013 14:44 Forikorder wrote:
On June 15 2013 14:23 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 15 2013 12:37 Forikorder wrote:
On June 15 2013 06:22 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 15 2013 06:11 ZenithM wrote:
On June 15 2013 05:49 Chillax wrote:
On June 15 2013 05:47 growl wrote:
If you take the "le" out of "Bleach", you get "Bach". The new villain is named Juha Bach. Coincidence? Or did Kubo plan that from the start??


You don't seriously believe Kubo ever had a plan?

Should be: "Since when were you under the impression that Kubo had a plan?"


Well, tbh, I am almost certain that he had the idea of his dad being a shanigami and his mom being a quincy for a while now. It's not a hard idea to come by. But it's hard to say if he was sure this is the path he wanted the story to go 5 years ago.



that doesnt count as having a plan, creating characters with a basic history upon creation is called the bare minumum

i think his dad has been a Shinigami all along but his mom definently wasnt a quincy from the start


I can actually see the part about his mom being a quincy from the start (at least in kobo's head). I don't really see how he could have prepared the part about the sword.

if his mom had been a quincy from the start then she wouldnt ahve been fooled by grand fisher and how does one captain class shinigami getting busy with one pure blood quincy even have a daughter with no spiriual power at all?


Read it again. She wasn't fooled by Grand Fisher, Ichigo was. She was just trying to protect him. She even tells him not to go. http://www.mangapanda.com/94-473-13/bleach/chapter-19.html

And Yuzu doesn't have no power at all, she can sense spirits and knows they are there she just can't see them. All she would need is a bit of training and she would be able to see them too. Karin has just a little more power. Honestly with the right training, Yuzu and Karin could probably become quite powerful Quincy.

and the reason she didnt sense grand fisher a mile away and avoid him is...?

Karin and Yuzu are not powerful, they have absolutely no strength at all dont try to pretend otherwise

Karin might at best be able to take down a hollow with enough training


You make no sense whatsoever. Ichigo couldn't do shit before Rukia came, or before he got trained. There's no reason to believe that Karin and Yuzu couldn't be strong if they got trained.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 16 2013 04:05 GMT
#7255
On June 16 2013 02:05 Dark_Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2013 00:51 Forikorder wrote:
On June 16 2013 00:28 SupaChicken wrote:
On June 15 2013 14:44 Forikorder wrote:
On June 15 2013 14:23 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 15 2013 12:37 Forikorder wrote:
On June 15 2013 06:22 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 15 2013 06:11 ZenithM wrote:
On June 15 2013 05:49 Chillax wrote:
On June 15 2013 05:47 growl wrote:
If you take the "le" out of "Bleach", you get "Bach". The new villain is named Juha Bach. Coincidence? Or did Kubo plan that from the start??


You don't seriously believe Kubo ever had a plan?

Should be: "Since when were you under the impression that Kubo had a plan?"


Well, tbh, I am almost certain that he had the idea of his dad being a shanigami and his mom being a quincy for a while now. It's not a hard idea to come by. But it's hard to say if he was sure this is the path he wanted the story to go 5 years ago.



that doesnt count as having a plan, creating characters with a basic history upon creation is called the bare minumum

i think his dad has been a Shinigami all along but his mom definently wasnt a quincy from the start


I can actually see the part about his mom being a quincy from the start (at least in kobo's head). I don't really see how he could have prepared the part about the sword.

if his mom had been a quincy from the start then she wouldnt ahve been fooled by grand fisher and how does one captain class shinigami getting busy with one pure blood quincy even have a daughter with no spiriual power at all?


Read it again. She wasn't fooled by Grand Fisher, Ichigo was. She was just trying to protect him. She even tells him not to go. http://www.mangapanda.com/94-473-13/bleach/chapter-19.html

And Yuzu doesn't have no power at all, she can sense spirits and knows they are there she just can't see them. All she would need is a bit of training and she would be able to see them too. Karin has just a little more power. Honestly with the right training, Yuzu and Karin could probably become quite powerful Quincy.

and the reason she didnt sense grand fisher a mile away and avoid him is...?

Karin and Yuzu are not powerful, they have absolutely no strength at all dont try to pretend otherwise

Karin might at best be able to take down a hollow with enough training


You make no sense whatsoever. Ichigo couldn't do shit before Rukia came, or before he got trained. There's no reason to believe that Karin and Yuzu couldn't be strong if they got trained.

except rip Rukias kido apart with his bare hands?

and waht about Chad he was face punching Hollows even before he got his special arms
17Sphynx17
Profile Joined September 2011
580 Posts
June 16 2013 04:28 GMT
#7256
I think one thing that the manga has not explained well is how come Ichigo was the reason Chad and Orihime got powers in the first place if Ichigo's power was basically a fake Zanpakuto or a partial release only? Would it be related to him eventually being the Quincy King/chosen one? Because Quincy's don't normally go around just giving powers to normals around so maybe that's going to be tied in with Bach somehow as Bach is the father quincy.

Or maybe we're going to have a situation where Ichigo is the chosen Bach vessel for him to no longer have a time limit? It would be hard to imagine that bach is actually alive and more of like he's a spirit now with his Quincy powers intact. So maybe he wants to rule over all planes properly and needs an appropriate vessel to house his body after he's shifted the balance in his favor?
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2546 Posts
June 16 2013 05:21 GMT
#7257
You don't think this is Ichigo's last powerup do you? I'm thinking 2 more. Next will be him becoming a vasto lord and the final one will be him absorbing the soul king. Then he becomes god and rules soul society with his teenage angst.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 16 2013 05:23 GMT
#7258
On June 16 2013 14:21 Hyperbola wrote:
You don't think this is Ichigo's last powerup do you? I'm thinking 2 more. Next will be him becoming a vasto lord and the final one will be him absorbing the soul king. Then he becomes god and rules soul society with his teenage angst.

now hell use the true final getsuga
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
June 16 2013 12:35 GMT
#7259
On June 16 2013 13:28 17Sphynx17 wrote:
I think one thing that the manga has not explained well is how come Ichigo was the reason Chad and Orihime got powers in the first place if Ichigo's power was basically a fake Zanpakuto or a partial release only? Would it be related to him eventually being the Quincy King/chosen one? Because Quincy's don't normally go around just giving powers to normals around so maybe that's going to be tied in with Bach somehow as Bach is the father quincy.

Or maybe we're going to have a situation where Ichigo is the chosen Bach vessel for him to no longer have a time limit? It would be hard to imagine that bach is actually alive and more of like he's a spirit now with his Quincy powers intact. So maybe he wants to rule over all planes properly and needs an appropriate vessel to house his body after he's shifted the balance in his favor?

The Hōgyoku.
Garalor
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany136 Posts
June 19 2013 09:00 GMT
#7260
chapter out - http://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/542

+ Show Spoiler +
way to short, way to less plot development. was like "wtf end???"
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