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freewareplayer
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany403 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 09:53:49
June 12 2013 09:48 GMT
#7161
Hmm, feeling more and more ok with this plot twist now, not the usual kubo crap it seems.


What do guys think bout this, i had some thaught regarding Ichigos Shikai/Bankai:
If his inner Hollow is actually his Zanpakotu, than he used it before, in 2 stages.

Shikai: Hollow Mask
Bankai: Full hollow

Edit: Hmm, so basicly, Shikai safed him whenever he was in danger. The only time he more or less died, Bankai safed him.

I wonder if he will be able to use Sonido and Cero in his new bankai...
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9567 Posts
June 12 2013 11:59 GMT
#7162
On June 12 2013 18:48 freewareplayer wrote:
Hmm, feeling more and more ok with this plot twist now, not the usual kubo crap it seems.


What do guys think bout this, i had some thaught regarding Ichigos Shikai/Bankai:
If his inner Hollow is actually his Zanpakotu, than he used it before, in 2 stages.

Shikai: Hollow Mask
Bankai: Full hollow

Edit: Hmm, so basicly, Shikai safed him whenever he was in danger. The only time he more or less died, Bankai safed him.

I wonder if he will be able to use Sonido and Cero in his new bankai...


I really doubt it. He's always been reliant on Getsuga Tenshiou and if Kubo wanted, he'd have learnt something new by now, which isn't the case. It's like the meme says "Getsuga Tenshiou, works every time, 60% of the time".

I'm more interested in whether he'll get more quincy powers to use, since now it seems his Quincy powers wont try and supress his shinigami powers anymore.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
June 12 2013 12:03 GMT
#7163
That panel where Ichigo screams I DONT GET IT sums up everything perfectly.
The heart's eternal vow
Kvz
Profile Joined March 2010
United States463 Posts
June 12 2013 12:04 GMT
#7164
Ichigo's bankai has always been about the suppression of his powers, im excited to see what happens now that they're not suppressed by his quincy powers
NrG.Kvz
SupaChicken
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia273 Posts
June 12 2013 12:08 GMT
#7165
From the way fake Zangetsu was speaking I was starting to think he was going to turn into Masaki and the real reason that she didn't have her quincy powers was because they passed on to Ichigo along with the hollow.
I need a new quote...
david0925
Profile Joined September 2010
212 Posts
June 12 2013 13:20 GMT
#7166
well, this is probably the easiest way to give Ichigo a wtfomgbbq power up

"you know, all this time you've only been fighting with 10% of your power".
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
June 12 2013 13:23 GMT
#7167
So basically

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freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
June 12 2013 13:24 GMT
#7168
On June 12 2013 22:20 david0925 wrote:
well, this is probably the easiest way to give Ichigo a wtfomgbbq power up

"you know, all this time you've only been fighting with 10% of your power".


an elegant solution!
And all is illuminated.
ddrddrddrddr
Profile Joined August 2010
1344 Posts
June 12 2013 13:31 GMT
#7169
Dang, everybody knows more about Ichigo than himself. Considering how unique his circumstances are, how is it that everyone can drop hints of his true nature all the time? That guy needs to do some soul searching.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
June 12 2013 14:42 GMT
#7170
On June 12 2013 21:03 PVJ wrote:
That panel where Ichigo screams I DONT GET IT sums up everything perfectly.

bahahaha
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 14:49:34
June 12 2013 14:48 GMT
#7171
so he didnt want Ichigo to die... so he supressed most of his power.... and lets Ulquiorra kill him...

seriously Ulquiorra kills Ichigo, no Hollow intervention and then Orihime shows up and ressurects him

and if the Hollow was really his Zangetsu the whole time then how come his hollow kept trying to take over his body and kill him? whats with his form while he was in the Vizards secret room? why was that form so different then his end form?
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
June 12 2013 15:29 GMT
#7172
I don't think the Hollow is actually Zangetsu. The hollow is the hollow. Zengetsu is something we haven't really seen yet because Bach Jr. suppressed it.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 12 2013 15:41 GMT
#7173
On June 13 2013 00:29 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I don't think the Hollow is actually Zangetsu. The hollow is the hollow. Zengetsu is something we haven't really seen yet because Bach Jr. suppressed it.

if so then that directly goes agaisnt what was actually said in the manga

unless Ichigo has 2 hollows in him cause his Zangetsu is definently the Hollow
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
June 12 2013 15:44 GMT
#7174
On June 13 2013 00:41 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 00:29 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I don't think the Hollow is actually Zangetsu. The hollow is the hollow. Zengetsu is something we haven't really seen yet because Bach Jr. suppressed it.

if so then that directly goes agaisnt what was actually said in the manga

unless Ichigo has 2 hollows in him cause his Zangetsu is definently the Hollow

The same way Zangetsu was definitely Zangetsu since the beginning of the manga? Nothing is certain with Kubo at the helm.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 16:03:14
June 12 2013 15:45 GMT
#7175
On June 13 2013 00:41 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 00:29 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I don't think the Hollow is actually Zangetsu. The hollow is the hollow. Zengetsu is something we haven't really seen yet because Bach Jr. suppressed it.

if so then that directly goes agaisnt what was actually said in the manga

unless Ichigo has 2 hollows in him cause his Zangetsu is definently the Hollow


Find me the page where it says that the Hollow is Zangetsu and not just a Hollow. Zangetsu is the thing he left there at the end and I'm willing to be it's something new we haven't seen before. Or at least an extension of what we've already seen.

To me it sounds a lot like there are three sources of power within Ichigo. Bach Jr., the Hollow and Zangetsu (which was kept down by Bach Jr.). Whenever Ichigo would fail, Bach Jr. would rely on the Hollow power to save him. It's pretty simple actually. I just re-read the whole thing.
http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/26534422/19

Bach basically says that Ichigo has been using a part of Zangetsu's power that Bach couldn't suppress. So what Ichigo's been using was Zangetsu's power I suppose but only a fraction of it with Bach controlling the rest and the Hollow being its own entity that saved Ichigo when fraction-Zangetsu's power failed.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 15:58:34
June 12 2013 15:57 GMT
#7176
http://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/540/15

the Hollow is Zangetsu and Bach jr has been supressing him, at the times when Ichigo "hollowfies" Bach lets out more of Zangetsus power then normal
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 15:59:44
June 12 2013 15:59 GMT
#7177
In the end it's just gonna be something completely different probably that turns Ichigo into a butterfly.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 12 2013 16:04 GMT
#7178
Ichigo's got a whole dysfunctional family living inside of him, huh.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
ddrddrddrddr
Profile Joined August 2010
1344 Posts
June 12 2013 16:11 GMT
#7179
*tin foil hat on*
This manga is just one giant metaphor for how the mixing of races makes for the betterment of man kind.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 16:36:37
June 12 2013 16:34 GMT
#7180
GOD Kubo is good at cliffhangers...

And Ichigo just became godlike again. It doesn't bother me at all :D
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