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-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
June 12 2013 16:34 GMT
#7181
So until now ichigo never used his shinigami power? A hollow can be used as a base to create your zanpakuto and that is what he has been doing until now? Has he ever used his quincy power? And what was up with this final power in the battle against aizen? Except for that fight this kinda makes sence but why does he have the same abilities as his father if he never used his shinigami powers?
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 12 2013 16:37 GMT
#7182
On June 13 2013 01:34 -y0shi- wrote:
So until now ichigo never used his shinigami power? A hollow can be used as a base to create your zanpakuto and that is what he has been doing until now? Has he ever used his quincy power? And what was up with this final power in the battle against aizen? Except for that fight this kinda makes sence but why does he have the same abilities as his father if he never used his shinigami powers?

he did use them he jsut used a small portion of them
DrGreen
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland708 Posts
June 12 2013 16:41 GMT
#7183
I don't get it....

So White Ichigo is his zanpaktou (it was made similar way asauchis are made), and this Hollow is responsible for sword powers, shikai, bankai etc.
The same hollow represents his hollow powers. Mask, ceros, transformations etc.

Then... this very hollow/zanpaktou, being a zangetsu, showed up and helped Ichigo survive and resurrect, but yet it didn't show it's true form? Bach was still restricting it's powers?!

And how to explain the Final Getsuga thing? At least we know why he lost his hollow powers as well, but Quincy stuff should still be inside him and he should be able to see ghosts and stuff, unless once again Juha was a bitch and didn't let him use Quincy powers.

It's all... so fucking messed up. I wish we get some graphical explanation in next chapter (same way Rukia did it in the first chapters, or same way it's done is some other mangas)
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
June 12 2013 16:42 GMT
#7184
"I didn't want you to die so I held back most of your power"

glorious logic
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 12 2013 16:44 GMT
#7185
On June 13 2013 01:41 DrGreen wrote:
I don't get it....

So White Ichigo is his zanpaktou (it was made similar way asauchis are made), and this Hollow is responsible for sword powers, shikai, bankai etc.
The same hollow represents his hollow powers. Mask, ceros, transformations etc.

Then... this very hollow/zanpaktou, being a zangetsu, showed up and helped Ichigo survive and resurrect, but yet it didn't show it's true form? Bach was still restricting it's powers?!

And how to explain the Final Getsuga thing? At least we know why he lost his hollow powers as well, but Quincy stuff should still be inside him and he should be able to see ghosts and stuff, unless once again Juha was a bitch and didn't let him use Quincy powers.

It's all... so fucking messed up. I wish we get some graphical explanation in next chapter (same way Rukia did it in the first chapters, or same way it's done is some other mangas)

just go with the flow dont look for continuity jsut try to enjoy the ride
-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
June 12 2013 16:47 GMT
#7186
On June 13 2013 01:42 hooahah wrote:
"I didn't want you to die so I held back most of your power"

glorious logic


This actually makes sense, he didnt want him to use his shinigami power and stopped them, he knew the hollow would safe him anyways
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 12 2013 16:54 GMT
#7187
On June 13 2013 01:47 -y0shi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 01:42 hooahah wrote:
"I didn't want you to die so I held back most of your power"

glorious logic


This actually makes sense, he didnt want him to use his shinigami power and stopped them, he knew the hollow would safe him anyways

if he didnt want him to use Shinigami power then why did he A) teach him Bankai B) teach him the final Getsuga and C) never attempt to ever teach him a single quincy move?
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 12 2013 17:04 GMT
#7188
On June 13 2013 01:44 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 01:41 DrGreen wrote:
I don't get it....

So White Ichigo is his zanpaktou (it was made similar way asauchis are made), and this Hollow is responsible for sword powers, shikai, bankai etc.
The same hollow represents his hollow powers. Mask, ceros, transformations etc.

Then... this very hollow/zanpaktou, being a zangetsu, showed up and helped Ichigo survive and resurrect, but yet it didn't show it's true form? Bach was still restricting it's powers?!

And how to explain the Final Getsuga thing? At least we know why he lost his hollow powers as well, but Quincy stuff should still be inside him and he should be able to see ghosts and stuff, unless once again Juha was a bitch and didn't let him use Quincy powers.

It's all... so fucking messed up. I wish we get some graphical explanation in next chapter (same way Rukia did it in the first chapters, or same way it's done is some other mangas)

just go with the flow dont look for continuity jsut try to enjoy the ride

Exactly the approach that a fervent Bleach reader should have :D
I'm enjoying this, it's a clusterfuck but it's still cool.
b3n3tt3
Profile Joined January 2012
595 Posts
June 12 2013 17:04 GMT
#7189
what a mess of a plot. retcons everywhere. Apparently yhwach disappears and unseals ichigo's zanpakuto. I guess Kubo will introduce a new character (ichigo's sealed zanpakuto) or he's gonna mix shirosaki again with some emo quincy kid

Basically "l0l ichigo ur a fkn shinigami trash i'll hold u back as much as i can, go die plz kthx" until such time "lol final arc, might as well give it to u"
growl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States203 Posts
June 12 2013 17:07 GMT
#7190
His Bankai seems a lot like Blut Arterie with him just holding White's sword. It'll be cool to see if it becomes something else.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
June 12 2013 17:24 GMT
#7191
Kubo 'The Retconner' Tite.
DrGreen
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland708 Posts
June 12 2013 17:29 GMT
#7192
On June 13 2013 01:44 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 01:41 DrGreen wrote:
I don't get it....

So White Ichigo is his zanpaktou (it was made similar way asauchis are made), and this Hollow is responsible for sword powers, shikai, bankai etc.
The same hollow represents his hollow powers. Mask, ceros, transformations etc.

Then... this very hollow/zanpaktou, being a zangetsu, showed up and helped Ichigo survive and resurrect, but yet it didn't show it's true form? Bach was still restricting it's powers?!

And how to explain the Final Getsuga thing? At least we know why he lost his hollow powers as well, but Quincy stuff should still be inside him and he should be able to see ghosts and stuff, unless once again Juha was a bitch and didn't let him use Quincy powers.

It's all... so fucking messed up. I wish we get some graphical explanation in next chapter (same way Rukia did it in the first chapters, or same way it's done is some other mangas)

just go with the flow dont look for continuity jsut try to enjoy the ride


I really do. But one thing I loved about Bleach is that it all made sense and now it falls apart. Kind of. I hope it gets explained better in coming chapters.

On June 13 2013 01:47 -y0shi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 01:42 hooahah wrote:
"I didn't want you to die so I held back most of your power"

glorious logic


This actually makes sense, he didnt want him to use his shinigami power and stopped them, he knew the hollow would safe him anyways


I don't think it makes sense. He also said that after Ichigo became strong and all he accepted those powers and wanted Ichigo to do well and stuff.
During Bach vs Ichigo fight, Juha purposely lethaly attacked him and by inner Juha Bach he revealed Ichigos Quincy powers, but... why not earlier? If he did that right away Ichigo would become Quincy like Ishida, not a shinigami. It's not like he showed up after Rukia gave Ichigo powers... He was there all along.
SENSE?! WHERE ARE YOU?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 12 2013 18:09 GMT
#7193
On June 13 2013 02:29 DrGreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 01:44 Forikorder wrote:
On June 13 2013 01:41 DrGreen wrote:
I don't get it....

So White Ichigo is his zanpaktou (it was made similar way asauchis are made), and this Hollow is responsible for sword powers, shikai, bankai etc.
The same hollow represents his hollow powers. Mask, ceros, transformations etc.

Then... this very hollow/zanpaktou, being a zangetsu, showed up and helped Ichigo survive and resurrect, but yet it didn't show it's true form? Bach was still restricting it's powers?!

And how to explain the Final Getsuga thing? At least we know why he lost his hollow powers as well, but Quincy stuff should still be inside him and he should be able to see ghosts and stuff, unless once again Juha was a bitch and didn't let him use Quincy powers.

It's all... so fucking messed up. I wish we get some graphical explanation in next chapter (same way Rukia did it in the first chapters, or same way it's done is some other mangas)

just go with the flow dont look for continuity jsut try to enjoy the ride


I really do. But one thing I loved about Bleach is that it all made sense and now it falls apart. Kind of. I hope it gets explained better in coming chapters.

Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 01:47 -y0shi- wrote:
On June 13 2013 01:42 hooahah wrote:
"I didn't want you to die so I held back most of your power"

glorious logic


This actually makes sense, he didnt want him to use his shinigami power and stopped them, he knew the hollow would safe him anyways


I don't think it makes sense. He also said that after Ichigo became strong and all he accepted those powers and wanted Ichigo to do well and stuff.
During Bach vs Ichigo fight, Juha purposely lethaly attacked him and by inner Juha Bach he revealed Ichigos Quincy powers, but... why not earlier? If he did that right away Ichigo would become Quincy like Ishida, not a shinigami. It's not like he showed up after Rukia gave Ichigo powers... He was there all along.
SENSE?! WHERE ARE YOU?


Maybe his intelligence hadn't fully come back yet.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
June 12 2013 18:30 GMT
#7194
On June 13 2013 02:29 DrGreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 01:44 Forikorder wrote:
On June 13 2013 01:41 DrGreen wrote:
I don't get it....

So White Ichigo is his zanpaktou (it was made similar way asauchis are made), and this Hollow is responsible for sword powers, shikai, bankai etc.
The same hollow represents his hollow powers. Mask, ceros, transformations etc.

Then... this very hollow/zanpaktou, being a zangetsu, showed up and helped Ichigo survive and resurrect, but yet it didn't show it's true form? Bach was still restricting it's powers?!

And how to explain the Final Getsuga thing? At least we know why he lost his hollow powers as well, but Quincy stuff should still be inside him and he should be able to see ghosts and stuff, unless once again Juha was a bitch and didn't let him use Quincy powers.

It's all... so fucking messed up. I wish we get some graphical explanation in next chapter (same way Rukia did it in the first chapters, or same way it's done is some other mangas)

just go with the flow dont look for continuity jsut try to enjoy the ride


I really do. But one thing I loved about Bleach is that it all made sense and now it falls apart. Kind of. I hope it gets explained better in coming chapters.

Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 01:47 -y0shi- wrote:
On June 13 2013 01:42 hooahah wrote:
"I didn't want you to die so I held back most of your power"

glorious logic


This actually makes sense, he didnt want him to use his shinigami power and stopped them, he knew the hollow would safe him anyways


I don't think it makes sense. He also said that after Ichigo became strong and all he accepted those powers and wanted Ichigo to do well and stuff.
During Bach vs Ichigo fight, Juha purposely lethaly attacked him and by inner Juha Bach he revealed Ichigos Quincy powers, but... why not earlier? If he did that right away Ichigo would become Quincy like Ishida, not a shinigami. It's not like he showed up after Rukia gave Ichigo powers... He was there all along.
SENSE?! WHERE ARE YOU?

I think becoming Quincy or Shinigami would have caused trouble for him either way.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
June 12 2013 20:12 GMT
#7195
Omg that means ichigo beat aizen with only like 5% of his true power! Ichigo about to go God bankai mode soon!!
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 21:03:30
June 12 2013 21:02 GMT
#7196
On June 13 2013 05:12 Canucklehead wrote:
Omg that means ichigo beat aizen with only like 5% of his true power! Ichigo about to go God bankai mode soon!!

Correction: he beat Aizen by temporarily (despite it being permanently) sacrificing only 10% of his true power!
Comogury
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States412 Posts
June 12 2013 21:15 GMT
#7197
On June 13 2013 01:54 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 01:47 -y0shi- wrote:
On June 13 2013 01:42 hooahah wrote:
"I didn't want you to die so I held back most of your power"

glorious logic


This actually makes sense, he didnt want him to use his shinigami power and stopped them, he knew the hollow would safe him anyways

if he didnt want him to use Shinigami power then why did he A) teach him Bankai B) teach him the final Getsuga and C) never attempt to ever teach him a single quincy move?

actually teaching him the final getsuga falls in line with how he wanted to keep ichigo from becoming a shinigami since he did end up losing his shinigami powers as a result of using it.
publicenemies
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
458 Posts
June 12 2013 23:26 GMT
#7198
sigh... ichigo getting power up again...
-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
June 12 2013 23:37 GMT
#7199
I just noticed something. Maybe the quincys couldn steal his bankai because what we called his bankai was never his bankai to begin with but just some other power that old man released when ever ichigo tried to use "bankai"
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
June 12 2013 23:44 GMT
#7200
I like the development of bleach even though theirs some grey areas in the info we know.
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