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On May 17 2015 10:42 Coppermantis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2015 03:14 helpman173 wrote:
With robots it is different because they can deal real damage. You simply cannot distinguish a robot that is going to kiss your ass from a robot that is going to kill you. Nobody can.
To be fair, can you really tell that difference in a human?
Even though there can be individual differences, the range of parameters in which the human brain operates is really small. You know how people think because everyone has the same hardware. People always need a "reason" to kill even if the reason is internal.
A robot doesn't have any of these restrictions. The programming can be anything you want. It doesn't have to be linear or logically sound. A robot can be programmed to kill you on the 6th of June no matter what. No "tests" with the robot other than going through the code can rule out that this is not going to happen.
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On May 17 2015 17:41 helpman173 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2015 10:42 Coppermantis wrote:On May 17 2015 03:14 helpman173 wrote:
With robots it is different because they can deal real damage. You simply cannot distinguish a robot that is going to kiss your ass from a robot that is going to kill you. Nobody can.
To be fair, can you really tell that difference in a human? Even though there can be individual differences, the range of parameters in which the human brain operates is really small. You know how people think because everyone has the same hardware. People always need a "reason" to kill even if the reason is internal. A robot doesn't have any of these restrictions. The programming can be anything you want. It doesn't have to be linear or logically sound. A robot can be programmed to kill you on the 6th of June no matter what. No "tests" with the robot other than going through the code can rule out that this is not going to happen.
You have no idea what you are talking about, so just stop and talk about how you did or did not like the movie.
Personally, I don't watch movies anymore. Ain't got the time for that.
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Chappie
Was cool, really liked the effects. The only problem I had with it was that the movie was really about nothing in particular and lacked cohesion. It would definitelly be more enjoyable if it could be made more focused and the script polished a bit. Only watch if you have time since apart from really seamless effects and some Die Antwoord coolness you aren't missing on anything by not watching this movie.
Child 44
Damn good movie. I really liked the dual nature of it. But I don't think it'll score very highly overall since most stuff depicted in it will simply be too incomprehensible and too absurd for people in the western world (apparently the movie's target audience). And that's a great shame because it's really, really good and one of the very few movies that manage to capture the realia of the era it portrays (Stalin's USSR just after World War).
Furious 7
I can't really say anything good about this movie. Even the mighty Rock couldn't save it.
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ill download child44, thx
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whats name of 3 hour scifi from the other year that goes thru 5 dif timelines? begins with m
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On May 20 2015 06:11 FFGenerations wrote:
whats name of 3 hour scifi from the other year that goes thru 5 dif timelines? begins with m
Cloud Atlas?
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On May 20 2015 06:11 FFGenerations wrote:
whats name of 3 hour scifi from the other year that goes thru 5 dif timelines? begins with m
Inception? Not timelines per se tho.
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Canada11607 Posts
Just watched Mad Max: Fury Road- I really, really enjoyed it.
A small thing, but I quite liked how the film didn't forget about its cast of characters during each fight. Case in point- the first fight between Max and Furiousa, the stolen brides join in. They aren't crazy strong fighters or very good, but they ARE trying to escape and so they'll yank a chain or whatever it takes to get away. Most films would just forget about them until the fight is over. It lends a sort level of realism of 'yeah, that would probably happen that way' in amongst all the completely bonkers (and awesome) fights.
That guitar guy, man. That raid party was fueled by the power of rock 
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On May 20 2015 13:43 Falling wrote:That guitar guy, man. That raid party was fueled by the power of rock
Guitar guy totally stole the show; I've heard more people talking about how awesome he was than any other part of the movie.
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*flame-spewing guitar guy
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That fucking guitar guy was awesome!
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Ex Machina
What a waste of time. The movie wasn't complete garbage, the plot was coherent although there was plenty of stupid stuff in it and it wasn't very complex and the scenery was very nice. That's practically all the good things I can say about this movie. It's boring as hell, the characters are extremely shallow, the suspense just isn't there and you can see all the plot twists from miles away - including their outcome.
I really don't know what they wanted to achieve with this movie. There's absolutely nothing innovative in it, very little character development and what little there is can be summarised as laughable, the plot is as simple as it gets (probably one of the reasons they didn't screw it up), etc. etc.
+ Show Spoiler [Stupid things in it] +- Super genious guy who coded Google at the age of 13 can't figure out what's causing power outages in the system he wrote.
- Said system in the super advanced research facility has virtually no protection against something as simple as power surges.
- Facility's defense against power surges being the backup generator. When it runs on it the lights change color, all doors are locked and all security cameras are made to turn away and shut down...
- Hacking the system apparently requires writing the Sieve of Eratosthenes algorithm in Python even though you already have admin credentials...
- Hack, which was a permanent change to the system (trivial one at that, changing one thing from 1 to 0 really) apparently only works once.
I can't go on, it's too painful...
Skip it if you can. You'll save yourself 2 hours of time to do something fun.
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I saw the boy in the striped pyjama's yesterday, doesnt happen often that movies give me some mixed feelings afterwards so it must be a descent movie. The actor that plays the jewish kid deserves an oscar for his performance, his body-language was so impressive, certainly considering his age.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0914798/ (7.8)
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On May 20 2015 19:35 Manit0u wrote:Ex MachinaWhat a waste of time. The movie wasn't complete garbage, the plot was coherent although there was plenty of stupid stuff in it and it wasn't very complex and the scenery was very nice. That's practically all the good things I can say about this movie. It's boring as hell, the characters are extremely shallow, the suspense just isn't there and you can see all the plot twists from miles away - including their outcome. I really don't know what they wanted to achieve with this movie. There's absolutely nothing innovative in it, very little character development and what little there is can be summarised as laughable, the plot is as simple as it gets (probably one of the reasons they didn't screw it up), etc. etc. + Show Spoiler [Stupid things in it] +- Super genious guy who coded Google at the age of 13 can't figure out what's causing power outages in the system he wrote.
- Said system in the super advanced research facility has virtually no protection against something as simple as power surges.
- Facility's defense against power surges being the backup generator. When it runs on it the lights change color, all doors are locked and all security cameras are made to turn away and shut down...
- Hacking the system apparently requires writing the Sieve of Eratosthenes algorithm in Python even though you already have admin credentials...
- Hack, which was a permanent change to the system (trivial one at that, changing one thing from 1 to 0 really) apparently only works once.
I can't go on, it's too painful... Skip it if you can. You'll save yourself 2 hours of time to do something fun.
I think you're being a bit too critical of some of it. I agree that the movie is superficial at best, but that doesn't mean it has absolutely no worth.
+ Show Spoiler +I think the character development is somewhat accurate, but they purposefully left it somewhat ambiguous. I'm not saying whether I think it was a good decision or not, but the movie's meaning changes if you know what Nathan's actual ambitions were and whether or not it's Nathan or Ava who was the villain. I don't think it was a particularly profound theme, but that's the message regardless. There was some really ridiculous shit in it though. The reveal that Ava was causing the power outages wasn't even a twist. They showed it on the camera. Did they really feel the need to then explicitly tell us that she was causing the power outages? Same thing with the Japanese AI. I thought that was another really obvious twist and was kind of stupid at best. It wasn't like it was even particularly helpful to the story because it wouldn't even be a fair test to Caleb to see if he could discern that it was an AI since he couldn't have a conversation with it. Criticizing the hacking is just a suspension of disbelief. It's possible that Ava also changed the system back to the original settings and we just weren't made aware of it to add to the shock. I know people want movies to be realistic, but real-life is pretty mundane. I think it's okay to use artistic license in order to make the movie interesting. By the way, the Sieve of Eratosthenes code actually had a purpose that someone on Reddit figured out. It actually spits out the ISBN to this. I think that's kind of gimmicky and it's pretty likely that someone in the studio leaked that (who the fuck would think of that? lol), but it's a cool piece of attention to detail.
I think that the worst part of Ex Machina was that it felt underdeveloped, despite being two hours. It was overall a decent film (not an 8/10 but probably like a 7/10), but it felt like a lot of exposition for the little action it had. It wasn't like The Usual Suspects where the end is what helped shape the entire movie either. Obviously the ending is critical to understanding everything that happened before it, but it didn't add that much depth to the movie as a whole. I enjoyed Mad Max much, much more.
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On May 20 2015 22:17 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2015 19:35 Manit0u wrote:Ex MachinaWhat a waste of time. The movie wasn't complete garbage, the plot was coherent although there was plenty of stupid stuff in it and it wasn't very complex and the scenery was very nice. That's practically all the good things I can say about this movie. It's boring as hell, the characters are extremely shallow, the suspense just isn't there and you can see all the plot twists from miles away - including their outcome. I really don't know what they wanted to achieve with this movie. There's absolutely nothing innovative in it, very little character development and what little there is can be summarised as laughable, the plot is as simple as it gets (probably one of the reasons they didn't screw it up), etc. etc. + Show Spoiler [Stupid things in it] +- Super genious guy who coded Google at the age of 13 can't figure out what's causing power outages in the system he wrote.
- Said system in the super advanced research facility has virtually no protection against something as simple as power surges.
- Facility's defense against power surges being the backup generator. When it runs on it the lights change color, all doors are locked and all security cameras are made to turn away and shut down...
- Hacking the system apparently requires writing the Sieve of Eratosthenes algorithm in Python even though you already have admin credentials...
- Hack, which was a permanent change to the system (trivial one at that, changing one thing from 1 to 0 really) apparently only works once.
I can't go on, it's too painful... Skip it if you can. You'll save yourself 2 hours of time to do something fun. I think you're being a bit too critical of some of it. I agree that the movie is superficial at best, but that doesn't mean it has absolutely no worth. + Show Spoiler +I think the character development is somewhat accurate, but they purposefully left it somewhat ambiguous. I'm not saying whether I think it was a good decision or not, but the movie's meaning changes if you know what Nathan's actual ambitions were and whether or not it's Nathan or Ava who was the villain. I don't think it was a particularly profound theme, but that's the message regardless. There was some really ridiculous shit in it though. The reveal that Ava was causing the power outages wasn't even a twist. They showed it on the camera. Did they really feel the need to then explicitly tell us that she was causing the power outages? Same thing with the Japanese AI. I thought that was another really obvious twist and was kind of stupid at best. It wasn't like it was even particularly helpful to the story because it wouldn't even be a fair test to Caleb to see if he could discern that it was an AI since he couldn't have a conversation with it. Criticizing the hacking is just a suspension of disbelief. It's possible that Ava also changed the system back to the original settings and we just weren't made aware of it to add to the shock. I know people want movies to be realistic, but real-life is pretty mundane. I think it's okay to use artistic license in order to make the movie interesting. By the way, the Sieve of Eratosthenes code actually had a purpose that someone on Reddit figured out. It actually spits out the ISBN to this. I think that's kind of gimmicky and it's pretty likely that someone in the studio leaked that (who the fuck would think of that? lol), but it's a cool piece of attention to detail. I think that the worst part of Ex Machina was that it felt underdeveloped, despite being two hours. It was overall a decent film (not an 8/10 but probably like a 7/10), but it felt like a lot of exposition for the little action it had. It wasn't like The Usual Suspects where the end is what helped shape the entire movie either. Obviously the ending is critical to understanding everything that happened before it, but it didn't add that much depth to the movie as a whole. I enjoyed Mad Max much, much more.
I didn't really mind the stupid things I've listed. When it comes to movies I'm willing to suspend all belief. What I did mind was that the entire movie felt pretty pointless. At first it seemed like a good take on some philosophical aspects of "What it means to be human" and such, but it quickly degraded and left a lot to desire.
I mean, if we compare it to movies that touched on the subject before it is but a shadow. Even Bicentennial Man, which scores rather poorly on various movie portals, had more going for it. Or a movie like I, Robot, which I disliked - still much better than this.
It seems like a worse version of Android from 1982.
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Mad Max: Fury Road
10/10
You should watch the movie just so you can enjoy a man and his guitar travelling across the desert rocking out nonstop, blasting out the most badass riffs.
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