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Fushin
France193 Posts
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adiga
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Excludos
Norway8260 Posts
On February 10 2012 17:41 adiga wrote: I heard long ago that there will be 2 seasons for each book, is that whats going to happen next season too? I don't mind the separation to two seasons but if we will have to wait a year between seasons that sucks :| Clash of kings will only be one season afaik, while Storm of swords will be shot back to back over two seasons. No idea how long they plan on waiting between each season, but considering they're already greenlight (unlike when the first season started airing), I'd bet not quite as long. | ||
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cydial
United States750 Posts
On February 09 2012 22:18 Acrofales wrote: You clearly completely misunderstood the season if you have Drogo as chaotic evil. Wow. Even aside from that, one of the main concepts behind of aSoIaF is that characters are more complex than this kind of alignment thing can ever show. Watch another season and you will change your opinion on a number of the characters. At the end most will be a wishywashy "lawful chaotic goodish neutral with sometimes a touch of evil" Which is why an alignment is for fun and not to be taken as seriously as your tight ass wants you to. Also, Drogo as Chaotic evil is pretty reasonable.... do you not remember how he was even introduced? He has people kill one another for his wedding, later on in the serious he goes around raping and pillaging whole villages because he can. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8260 Posts
On February 10 2012 18:34 cydial wrote: Which is why an alignment is for fun and not to be taken as seriously as your tight ass wants you to. Also, Drogo as Chaotic evil is pretty reasonable.... do you not remember how he was even introduced? He has people kill one another for his wedding, later on in the serious he goes around raping and pillaging whole villages because he can. Oh yeah, he's CE alright. Its just so easy to forget because we all liked his character  | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18296 Posts
On February 10 2012 18:34 cydial wrote: Which is why an alignment is for fun and not to be taken as seriously as your tight ass wants you to. Also, Drogo as Chaotic evil is pretty reasonable.... do you not remember how he was even introduced? He has people kill one another for his wedding, later on in the serious he goes around raping and pillaging whole villages because he can. Firstly, you completely misread that scene. It is to introduce the Dothraki as savages who find honor in battle. They both honor each other in the fight, as well as their Khal by fighting at the wedding. Drogo did not point at two people and say "you! Kill him". People just picked fights. How is that evil? You might argue that it is chaotic, because it goes against any rules we know, but even that is dubious. I picked this from wikipedia, because I don't have a D&D handbook here, but: Law implies honor, trustworthiness, obedience to authority, and reliability. Chaos implies freedom, adaptability, and flexibility Drogo is honorable, trustworthy, free and flexible. He has about equal parts of both. Now on to "Chaotic evil" Chaotic Evil is referred to as the "Destroyer" or "Demonic" alignment. Characters of this alignment tend to have no respect for rules, other people's lives, or anything but their own desires, which are typically selfish and cruel. They set a high value on personal freedom, but do not have any regard for the lives or freedom of other people. They do not work well in groups, as they resent being given orders, and usually behave themselves only out of fear of punishment. It is not compulsory for a Chaotic Evil character to be constantly performing sadistic acts just for the sake of being evil, or constantly disobeying orders just for the sake of causing chaos. They do however enjoy the suffering of others, and view honor and self-discipline as weaknesses. Serial killers and monsters of limited intelligence are typically Chaotic Evil. Dothraki are not bound to follow a Khal, they follow him because they want to. Drogo's desires include the desire to please his wife, who comes to love him as well. Drogo puts high stock in self-discipline as displayed by his complete and utter loathing of Viserys, probably the least self-disciplined character we have met so far. He, and all Dothraki, also hold honor very highly. Now you might ask "if he's not chaotic evil, in what box should I put him?" Well, as I, and other people argued: none. Stop the whole pointless exercise. I will reiterate, and GRRM has said so a number of times too, the whole point of ASOIAF is to have characters who cannot be properly defined by "good vs evil" characterizations: there are multiple shades of gray and characters change between them. The most saintly character can (and usually will) commit morally wrong acts and the most evil character will have a glimmer of goodness in him (although admittedly the most despicable characters of all tend not to, but I can't say more without moving to the spoilered thread). | ||
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Thorakh
Netherlands1788 Posts
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Bojas
Netherlands2397 Posts
On February 17 2012 00:04 Thorakh wrote: Sooo, how am I going to watch season 2 when I don't live in the States? I imagine it's not going to be on in the Netherlands for a very long while. Will I just have to watch it in shitty 360p videostreams again, like I did with season 1 or does HBO want my money this time and have a stream service available a few hours or days after each episode airs... (one that I can actually use outside of the states). I am pretty sure most people in Europe use other ''creative'' solutions for that  .Edit: also I want to thank the people who suggested watching The Wire in this thread, amazing show! | ||
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Thorakh
Netherlands1788 Posts
I am pretty sure most people in Europe use other ''creative'' solutions for that . Obviously :p But that's not what I want, they created such a great show but no means to stream it in HQ for people outside the States? Well, if they don't want my money they won't get it. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On February 17 2012 00:22 Thorakh wrote: Obviously :p But that's not what I want, they created such a great show but no means to stream it in HQ for people outside the States? Well, if they don't want my money they won't get it. Get more "creative" then. | ||
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dbddbddb
Singapore969 Posts
basically what we are saying is torrent (piratebay) it. it'll be released hours after the show is aired | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6277 Posts
On February 17 2012 00:04 Thorakh wrote: Sooo, how am I going to watch season 2 when I don't live in the States? I imagine it's not going to be on in the Netherlands for a very long while. Will I just have to watch it in shitty 360p videostreams again, like I did with season 1 or does HBO want my money this time and have a stream service available a few hours or days after each episode airs... (one that I can actually use outside of the states). http://www.itshbo.nl/subscribe if you have TV you can subscribe for HBO I think you get everything the same time as the US or maybe a couple of hours later. | ||
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Maginor
Norway505 Posts
On February 17 2012 00:22 Thorakh wrote: Obviously :p But that's not what I want, they created such a great show but no means to stream it in HQ for people outside the States? Well, if they don't want my money they won't get it. Get creative first, then buy the dvd/bluray when it is out. | ||
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Technique
Netherlands1542 Posts
On February 17 2012 00:04 Thorakh wrote: Sooo, how am I going to watch season 2 when I don't live in the States? I imagine it's not going to be on in the Netherlands for a very long while. Will I just have to watch it in shitty 360p videostreams again, like I did with season 1 or does HBO want my money this time and have a stream service available a few hours or days after each episode airs... (one that I can actually use outside of the states). If you got ziggo you can see it on the new HBO channel. Tho i got upc, so i still gotta do some cough illegal cough stuff to watch it . | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On February 17 2012 01:17 dbddbddb wrote: basically what we are saying is torrent (piratebay) it. it'll be released hours after the show is aired and what he is saying that he wants HBO to take his money but they dont do it. | ||
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DamnCats
United States1472 Posts
On February 17 2012 01:23 Skilledblob wrote: and what he is saying that he wants HBO to take his money but they dont do it. Wow seriously I just looked up HBO GO and its available only in the US... wtf would they do that for? | ||
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Thorakh
Netherlands1788 Posts
On February 17 2012 01:27 DamnCats wrote: I imagine it has something to do with licensing rights or whatever.Wow seriously I just looked up HBO GO and its available only in the US... wtf would they do that for? And yes, I know how to get 'creative', my point is that I don't want to, I want to give them my money (since obviously they spent a lot of effort on the show), but I want HQ streams in return. I don't want to watch it on my TV (and having to purchase additional channels for that), I don't want to watch it on dvd, I want to watch it whenever I want online in HQ. It's just mindboggling why that's not possible, they're basically telling me to get 'creative' just because I live in Europe. | ||
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Maginor
Norway505 Posts
On February 17 2012 01:35 Thorakh wrote: I imagine it has something to do with licensing rights or whatever. And yes, I know how to get 'creative', my point is that I don't want to, I want to give them my money (since obviously they spent a lot of effort on the show), but I want HQ streams in return. I don't want to watch it on my TV (and having to purchase additional channels for that), I don't want to watch it on dvd, I want to watch it whenever I want online in HQ. It's just mindboggling why that's not possible, they're basically telling me to get 'creative' just because I live in Europe. Yes, but you could still buy the dvd afterwards even if you don't want the dvd, just to give them the money. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6277 Posts
On February 17 2012 01:35 Thorakh wrote: I imagine it has something to do with licensing rights or whatever. And yes, I know how to get 'creative', my point is that I don't want to, I want to give them my money (since obviously they spent a lot of effort on the show), but I want HQ streams in return. I don't want to watch it on my TV (and having to purchase additional channels for that), I don't want to watch it on dvd, I want to watch it whenever I want online in HQ. It's just mindboggling why that's not possible, they're basically telling me to get 'creative' just because I live in Europe. HBO is part of the subscription for the TV channel http://www.itshbo.nl/hbogo that's the only way sorry :p. | ||
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Kznn
Brazil9072 Posts
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