EPT[TV] HBO Game of Thrones - Page 1392
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
well, against the rules of the thread or not, this scene never happened in the books, making it strictly unnecessary in the most basic of terms. hmm this is the show not the books, it may be necessary in the TV series' story in the future. Since books are very different from a TV show. In a TV show you really can't leave way too much characters without closure.( given that HBO has only 20 episodes left to show) | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
There may have been other events that happened in the book where stanis isnt in this position but currently in the show he is. Also who says stanis cant be on the throne, twyin is dead the whole lanisters are in a super shitty position, likely to lose tyrell backing, dorne dont help defend seeing as they are avoiding war and if they must go to war its probably against the lanisters (despite mycellas roots) the knight of the arie dont leave their home theres not of lot of people would or could stand up to stanis's army after he beats the boltens. Danny is the only one who could contest him but she doesnt even have the boats to cross the narrow sea or what to actually do whens shes there | ||
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negativedge
4279 Posts
On June 08 2015 17:42 Shock710 wrote: in the moment the show created where stansis cant go forward, is dying by sitting still and cant go back (because hes basically told that victory is assured if he can just get to the boltens) from the show it seemed either that or lose the chance to defeat the boltens and like he said if the storm is really strong atm, and winter is coming surely the storm only gets worse they may never leave castle black and just all freeze and die the bolded part is the only part that is important. people have a tendency to look at a story from within it rather than from without. stannis did not kill his daughter because he was in that position (which is irrelevant anyway), he was in that position because the writers wanted him to kill his daughter. | ||
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Sterlymobile
United States1009 Posts
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JonnyBNoHo
United States6277 Posts
Stannis was always portrayed as a pretty cold guy. Characters commented on it and his actions should have made that pretty clear as well. This isn't the first time that people have been burned alive at Stannis' orders, nor the first time he resorted to Mel's black magic. But there's also more depth to him than 'cold, calculated leader' and his character has always been torn between Davos and Mel's advice. I think you're also taking a very immature view of the story: besides, how relevant do you honestly think any of this is? is there a single person on planet earth that believes stannis is going to sit on the iron throne? does anyone whatsoever care about melisandre? no. it's all just jerking it waiting for dany and bran and jon snow to get together. If you think the only point of the show is to inject characters so that the plot can go from a -> b -> c, well you're missing one of the bigger parts of story telling. Who characters are, and why they do what they do is arguably more important than plot elements like 'epic battle scene no. 36'. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9771 Posts
On June 08 2015 17:47 negativedge wrote: the bolded part is the only part that is important. people have a tendency to look at a story from within it rather than from without. stannis did not kill his daughter because he was in that position (which is irrelevant anyway), he was in that position because the writers wanted him to kill his daughter. But it does have a sort of internal logic based around what was likely to happen, due to past events and choices in the show going back to the first 'royal' sacrifice. I mean, Stannis would surely have more sense than to have ended up in this position if was the great military mind that everyone claims he was, and there was no explanation or footage of the Ramsey raid that forced his hand, so it feels rushed for sure, but it wasn't out of the blue. Besides, what you're saying doesn't really make much sense because you could say that about any book or story. If something happens that you don't like "well it only happened because the writer wanted it to happen". Maybe, if you don't like how its written you could watch something else :/ | ||
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Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
The Arena ambush was only predictable because of it being revealed in the trailer (really dumb move to have shown it there in my opinion), and the dragon coming to save her from that ambush seemed predictable as well — at least to me from a guess that I got right. For maybe the first several times Stannis appeared on the show I was a bit of a fan of him, but later on it seemed clear that he was somewhat of a pawn, or at least not the most civil/rational person. It was no surprise he did what he did, and I was in fact surprised about the way he acted the first time when the idea was originally proposed to him. He reacted as if it was off the table, but not too surprisingly it wasn't. Regarding Castle Black and Jaime/Dorne I don't think anyone really expected anything significant to happen there [yet], right? and nothing did. Regardless, like I said it was still a nice episode. Just makes them seem really short when everything was quite foreseeable. | ||
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coverpunch
United States2093 Posts
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SkelA
Macedonia13069 Posts
Now my neutral dislike turned into hate for Stannis. The last scene with Dany was fucking epic. Hope she releases her other dragons now. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9771 Posts
On June 08 2015 18:27 coverpunch wrote: The dragon is basically a viking with a hellbat ground attack, no? It was pretty disappointing. Yeah after seeing in the history and lore videos about how the Targeryans wrecked the whole of Westeros with nothing but a small army and a few dragons i was hoping for something massively more impressive than that. They must still be babies or something, because Drogon was pretty rubbish, | ||
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phero
Netherlands12 Posts
On June 08 2015 18:30 Jockmcplop wrote: Yeah after seeing in the history and lore videos about how the Targeryans wrecked the whole of Westeros with nothing but a small army and a few dragons i was hoping for something massively more impressive than that. They must still be babies or something, because Drogon was pretty rubbish, Dragons probably need a skilled rider to direct them in combat. That's where Dany comes in, as shown. | ||
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
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Naphal
Germany2099 Posts
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
Wasn't Stannis first introduction burning people alive on the beach? It's not like he's changed much, he's a crazy fanatic. Onion Knight tried to talk sense to him for 3 seasons but nope. He kept his daughter locked up in a prison cell for crying out loud. Also Ramsay Bolton is the greatest ninja in all of the seven kingdoms. | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
the sullied seem way more powerful, but i guess this is what they were mainly trained for open field war where they can make full use of being in line and make formations. I think they might be slightly above average in fighting but their main strength is no emotion so when they're in a fight against charging warriors like in the video they dont get scared like most men would they dont tremble and forget to lock shields basically they can do formations correctly even under pressure where a normal guy would flee. I think it is why they kind suck balls in every fight we see in the show. | ||
KadaverBB
Germany25657 Posts
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