EPTMereen story was good.. I just dont get those masked guys what they want are they slaves before or mixed?.Kinda expected that drogon will come.. awesome scene still. and the duels in the pits. Report Dany for leaving.
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
Mereen story was good.. I just dont get those masked guys what they want are they slaves before or mixed?.Kinda expected that drogon will come.. awesome scene still. and the duels in the pits. Report Dany for leaving. | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
stansis burning his daughter..........fuck you stansis wtf is wrong with you. I think the only reason stansis was able to hold himself back was because hes going been down this thought process million times in his head, while his wife was been super brainwashed or w/e to the point where she wasnt thinking about it till it was happening and her motherly instincts as shit as they maybe kicked in and gaver her a moment of clarity, but even still i cant believe stansis did that. I really thought with as much scenes with her and davos i thought her dragonscale thing was going to be important later on. Im just super glad jorah didnt die yet (T_T greyscale) i think the fight could have been done better, maybe with the other sword guy going straight for stab would have been better with jorah letting it maybe pirece his arm? shoulder and then while the guy is stuck in his armor slice off his head (bascially the same tatic he did vs the dorthraki) i didnt like that the spear guy saved jorah and then let jorah get on his feet like, if ur not opposed to stabbing someone in the back surely stabbing someone on the ground is definitely in ur book too. Also i thought drogo was a fully grown dragon, and didnt they say before that a dragon could kill like a thousand soliders easily? spears are stronger than arrows and these spears had a short distance, but i imagine 500 archer could shoot down drogo no problem if he had super hard scales that would make more senese but it really looked like 50 spears would have killed drogo, and his firebreath range wasnt exactly impressive. i'd also like to mention fuck ollie i think hes gonna do some really really really stupid shit especially with all these shots we are getting of him looking pissed edit: dorne, i was scared bronn was going to lose a hand ;_; also im not sure if obyerns wife is making peace with jamie (but not cersi) or if she still wants all the lanisters dead and is just playing nice. Either way when jamie gets back hes going to have a huge surprise and alot of fucking work to do. How will the dorne prince take to seeing the whole place in a shithole, and if he dies because or something stupid like "oh he doesnt believe in the 7 gods" and they kill him OMFG too stupid way too stupid i would never believe that fanatics be able to get passed gold cloaks, dornish guards, the big ass black dude? maybe he'll say with the king of dorne, and sandsnakes which i assume are going with bronn (sexy time?) | ||
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Irrelevant Label
United States596 Posts
On June 08 2015 14:29 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: That scene with Shireen was harsh. Now there's some damn controversy. To hell with a minor rape scene. It is a different kind of controversy. Burning at a stake doesn't throw a new record sized stone at a political wasp nest that a show has a history of using for target practice. People will stop siding with Stannis over it. Not so many will stop siding with the show over it. | ||
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Nesserev
Belgium2760 Posts
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
On June 08 2015 15:44 shin_toss wrote: Also Im kinda lost.. whats the supposedly will happen in exchange for shereen's life? I don't see the fighting in the pits nor the CGI was bad as some people say. and forgot to mention, Tyrion might hit on Greyworm's waifu I think they didnt mention what would happen specifically but something that would probably help stanis move on forward cause atm thats his problem | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23654 Posts
The dragon itself wasn't bad but when she was riding it it as pretty terrible. They probably should of just stuck with the original edit Deleted scenes of Dany riding the dragon | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
On June 08 2015 15:44 shin_toss wrote: Also Im kinda lost.. whats the supposedly will happen in exchange for shereen's life? I don't see the fighting in the pits nor the CGI was bad as some people say. and forgot to mention, Tyrion might hit on Greyworm's waifu Something that will turn the tides in Stannis' favor is all I'll say. IF it's what I think it is. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On June 08 2015 15:27 Irrelevant Label wrote: It is a different kind of controversy. Burning at a stake doesn't throw a new record sized stone at a political wasp nest that a show has a history of using for target practice. People will stop siding with Stannis over it. Not so many will stop siding with the show over it. But why is that the case? Sure rape is a heinous act and is unfortunately far more relevant to today's world than most of the other awful things that happen in GoT, but it isn't like the show has been overly gratuitous with it to the point of seemingly advocating it like some would have you believe. I can recollect a total of 4 rape scenes in the entire series and 2 attempted rapes. All of them except the infamous Cersei/Jamie scene were reasonable or necessary to the show. | ||
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negativedge
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On June 08 2015 15:57 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: But why is that the case? Sure rape is a heinous act and is unfortunately far more relevant to today's world than most of the other awful things that happen in GoT, but it isn't like the show has been overly gratuitous with it to the point of seemingly advocating it like some would have you believe. I can recollect a total of 4 rape scenes in the entire series and 2 attempted rapes. All of them except the infamous Cersei/Jamie scene were reasonable or necessary to the show. the rape stuff and the shireen stuff are the same thing to me, and they're both dumb. lazily inflicting violence on women to get a rise out of viewers/readers in order to mark new directions in a character arc. it's stupid writing, prevalent everywhere, but this series attempts to drape it in prestige. they burned a little girl alive in order to get you to stop liking stannis and start liking dany more. look, he's a bad parent! look, she's a good one! wow, how insightful. it's the "shocking twist!" method of writing. pointless at best, but when you're burning little girls it's worse than pointless. and recall, dany herself only became the "hardened" ruler-in-waiting after she was raped in season 1. a pointless circle in a story full of them. can't wait for sansa to prostrate herself next week and then be granted clemency in some fashion in order to "keep us guessing." zzzzzzzzzz. and when brienne inevitably kills or plays a role in killing stannis, more lazy people will write more about these pointless circles, about how this murder of shireen was part of a long game to set up the feminist redemption blah blah blah blah, with bonus points for mentioning Iphigenia. I won't even bother to ask whatever the hell a "reasonable or necessary" rape is, so please don't answer. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
Start at 2:23. (this is indeed HBO material: avoid comments for possible spoilers). | ||
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Ayush_SCtoss
India3050 Posts
I was expecting a bunch of harpies surrounding the leftover group wtf. They all just left LOL. | ||
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Nesserev
Belgium2760 Posts
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
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negativedge
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On June 08 2015 16:28 Nesserev wrote: How was burning Stannis' daughter unneccessary? is this a real question | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Nesserev
Belgium2760 Posts
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
On June 08 2015 16:15 Lord Tolkien wrote: The Shireen scene reminds me of the legend and prophecy of the Lightbringer. Much as the savior in their prophecy sacrifices his beloved wife to kindle the sword and drive back the White Walkers, so too has Stannis sacrificed his beloved daughter. It epitomizes the character really; what is the life of a girl, even if it's his own daughter, against that of an army, of the realm? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opJ7h5rwvjs Start at 2:23. (this is indeed HBO material: avoid comments for possible spoilers). oh wtf O_O lord of light, awaits a champion who will bring back dragons and make a valyarian sword and he (king) must do it by killing his wife... So of the people who could be king, theres stanis (killing his wife would be easy easy especailly after this ep) however him bringing back dragons i highly doubt it Then theres danny, queen (not a king but maybe it can be reversed) she already has the dragons, if dragon fire does make swords she'll can forge plenty from the dragonglass people say its from, enough for an army? (that would be one way to fight the whitewalkers) but she would need to kill her husband who would she marry? tyrion? if tyrion dies like that ill be super upet and i dont think danny would be one to kill like that. Im leaning to she marrys stanis and kills stanis for his heart? Stanis wins the iron throne he still needs a wife, danny will win the throne from him if he doesnt agree. But Stanis has the firelady on her side who i guess also knowns the prophecy but remember they also showed that asian girl who was also part of the fire religion and she would be like dannys red priestess | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On June 08 2015 16:05 negativedge wrote: the rape stuff and the shireen stuff are the same thing to me, and they're both dumb. lazily inflicting violence on women to get a rise out of viewers/readers in order to mark new directions in a character arc. it's stupid writing, prevalent everywhere, but this series attempts to drape it in prestige. they burned a little girl alive in order to get you to stop liking stannis and start liking dany more. look, he's a bad parent! look, she's a good one! wow, how insightful. it's the "shocking twist!" method of writing. pointless at best, but when you're burning little girls it's worse than pointless. and recall, dany herself only became the "hardened" ruler-in-waiting after she was raped in season 1. a pointless circle in a story full of them. can't wait for sansa to prostrate herself next week and then be granted clemency in some fashion in order to "keep us guessing." zzzzzzzzzz. and when brienne inevitably kills or plays a role in killing stannis, more lazy people will write more about these pointless circles, about how this murder of shireen was part of a long game to set up the feminist redemption blah blah blah blah, with bonus points for mentioning Iphigenia. I won't even bother to ask whatever the hell a "reasonable or necessary" rape is, so please don't answer. Well too bad, you just did by drawing attention to it. By "reasonable", I mean non-gratuitous within the context of the scene. I mean not having rape for the sake of having it for senseless controversy or some twisted male fantasy. For example, the rape scenes in Crastor's Keep back in season 4 after Karl's mutiny. The Night Watch is composed of the bottom of society with tons of men who probably haven't been laid in ages who suddenly have no commander and are surrounded by women...it was bound to happen. By "necessary", I mean it enhanced a certain aspect of a character or was somehow relevant to the story. For example, Dany and Drogo illustrates just how powerless Dany used to be before growing into the empowering figure she currently is. She went from being abused and sold by her stupid brother to being at the helm of potentially the most powerful faction. | ||
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negativedge
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