[TV] HBO Game of Thrones - Page 1365

On May 24 2015 03:53 Conti wrote:

Unless I am mistaken, they are airing an episode despite it being Memorial Day. Wikipedia says so, too.

On May 24 2015 04:03 AsnSensation wrote:
last year there definitely wasn't an episode when you guys celebrated memorial day over there.

On May 24 2015 02:51 helpman175 wrote:
What people are most pissed about is the fact that they use the rape of Sansa as a pure shock factor.
They state that it goes completely against Sansa's character development in season 4.

On May 24 2015 04:33 Nebuchad wrote:


I find it fascinating that I'm the only one who finds it offensive to say "rape goes against that character's development".

On May 24 2015 06:42 Kickstart wrote:
This is getting old, last time I'm talking about the 'rape' scene unless someone responds to this. No one in this thread or anywhere else (barring sickos) finds rape ok, the point is that the people getting butthurt over it in the show are being little bitches and just wanting to cry and be offended over something. First off, its GoT, if you don't expect shit like this or worse, where the fuck have you been and why are you watching. Second, it wasn't even rape in the GoT world, it was EXACTLY what is expected to happen, and what Sansas character knew would happen, she got married (which she had the choice to not do) - and the marriage was consummated. And finally, a rape where some random man forces himself on some random woman in the GoT world is something I'm sure would be against the laws there (not sure if that scenario has played out but I'm sure the attacker would be punished), but, you have to remember that in the GoT world (and much of the world in real life, present and past) woman are second class citizens and basically property; Sansa agreed to (which is more of a choice than normal in the GoT world, most woman have been married off by their families, they had no choice in the matter) the marriage, and thus she became Ramsey's property. Did she want to have sex with him, probably not, but again, marriage was done, she is now considered his property, and consummation after the marriage was entirely expected.

Anyone who is seriously upset or outraged over the scene needs to grow up or watch a different show.

On May 24 2015 06:58 Chewbacca. wrote:

Agreed. And one more point, for the people saying this destroys all of Sansa's character development in S4, it doesn't. If anything it helps it... The entire first 3 seasons Sansa was in no control and was constantly being played by other people. Yes in this instance that one event wasn't pleasant for Sansa, but she opted into it fully knowing what was going to happen so that she could further whatever her overarching goal is at this moment. Now she is taking what she learned in S4 from LF and she is playing others instead of others playing her.

On May 24 2015 06:42 Kickstart wrote:
This is getting old, last time I'm talking about the 'rape' scene unless someone responds to this. No one in this thread or anywhere else (barring sickos) finds rape ok, the point is that the people getting butthurt over it in the show are being little bitches and just wanting to cry and be offended over something. First off, its GoT, if you don't expect shit like this or worse, where the fuck have you been and why are you watching. Second, it wasn't even rape in the GoT world, it was EXACTLY what is expected to happen, and what Sansas character knew would happen, she got married (which she had the choice to not do) - and the marriage was consummated. And finally, a rape where some random man forces himself on some random woman in the GoT world is something I'm sure would be against the laws there (not sure if that scenario has played out but I'm sure the attacker would be punished), but, you have to remember that in the GoT world (and much of the world in real life, present and past) woman are second class citizens and basically property; Sansa agreed to (which is more of a choice than normal in the GoT world, most woman have been married off by their families, they had no choice in the matter) the marriage, and thus she became Ramsey's property. Did she want to have sex with him, probably not, but again, marriage was done, she is now considered his property, and consummation after the marriage was entirely expected.

Anyone who is seriously upset or outraged over the scene needs to grow up or watch a different show.

On May 24 2015 08:27 Biff The Understudy wrote:

Look, this is a rape scene by our standards and it's pretty horrific. That's it.

You are going on both threads making walls of texts saying this isn't really a rape and people have to grow up and in GOT world etc. I don't know why.

Thing is that we are human beings gifted with empathy, who live with a certain set of values, and identify with those characters, and in that scene, this young woman cries when this horrific monster rapes her. If that leaves you insensitive you must be afflicted with a higher degree of psychopathy, and I'm sure it's not the case so maybe let's drop the subject.

On May 24 2015 06:58 Chewbacca. wrote:

Agreed. And one more point, for the people saying this destroys all of Sansa's character development in S4, it doesn't. If anything it helps it... The entire first 3 seasons Sansa was in no control and was constantly being played by other people. Yes in this instance that one event wasn't pleasant for Sansa, but she opted into it fully knowing what was going to happen so that she could further whatever her overarching goal is at this moment. Now she is taking what she learned in S4 from LF and she is playing others instead of others playing her.

On May 24 2015 08:46 TMG26 wrote:
The only reason people are pissed of is because it's Sansa.

There have been many rapes in the series, this was the less brutal, but was to a beloved character.

On May 24 2015 08:27 Biff The Understudy wrote:

Look, this is a rape scene by our standards and it's pretty horrific. That's it.

You are going on both threads making walls of texts saying this isn't really a rape and people have to grow up and in GOT world etc. I don't know why.

Thing is that we are human beings gifted with empathy, who live with a certain set of values, and identify with those characters, and in that scene, this young woman cries when this horrific monster rapes her. If that leaves you insensitive you must be afflicted with a higher degree of psychopathy, and I'm sure it's not the case so maybe let's drop the subject.

On May 24 2015 10:01 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:


Have there really though? Looking around the web, people make it seem like this show is absolutely gratuitous with rape but from my recollections there really haven't been many scenes involving it. If anything, given that this is a medieval themed drama with wars raging on all sides, I'd say they've been very tame.

Off the top of my head:

Dany and Drogo twice in season 1 (probably the most graphic, but totally reasonable and necessary)

Cersei and Jamie in season 4 (pretty much universally agreed to have been a stupid scene regardless of whether people consider it a rape or not)

Craster's house of rape in season 4 (again reasonable and brief)

Sansa and Ramsay (totally reasonable)