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ShurykaN
United States338 Posts
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
On May 11 2015 15:52 Steveling wrote: Oh, I forgot to write my original comment. Wtf half the season is gone and -still- no major characters dead? This is getting boring. White Rat was killed | ||
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Twoflowers
Germany241 Posts
On May 11 2015 16:00 Hyperbola wrote: Why not cut that chunk of your arm off? Or just the entire arm? He's right-handed and its his left arm so nothing of value is lost. Cutting off the arm probably doesn't heal the infection. | ||
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dbizzle
United States395 Posts
On May 11 2015 15:55 ShurykaN wrote: I don't understand why Stannis and the Boltons have to fight; couldn't Stannis ask them to join his army? It seems like their alliance with the Lannisters isn't very strong at the moment. So some one backstabs your good friend's family, murders them at their wedding, takes their home, skin their people and backs up the lannisters and you wonder why he wants to get rid of them? | ||
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Alethios
New Zealand2765 Posts
On May 11 2015 16:57 dbizzle wrote: So some one backstabs your good friend's family, murders them at their wedding, takes their home, skin their people and backs up the lannisters and you wonder why he wants to get rid of them? Not to mention Stannis is all into that honour shit. Furthermore, he wouldn't necessarily know that the Bolton/Lannister alliance isn't as strong as it publicly seems. | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
also wtf dany gonna marry a slave master? i think maybe she has something up her sleeve. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22518 Posts
On May 11 2015 13:58 Zooper31 wrote: Shit, Drogon gets around. Dude alrdy flying around Valyria. Then again I don't have a huge understanding of the map and how far that actually is from Mereen. http://quartermaester.info/ The map has no spoilers so long as you don't touch the menu on the right. Scroll east to find where Danny is. | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On May 11 2015 16:57 dbizzle wrote: So some one backstabs your good friend's family, murders them at their wedding, takes their home, skin their people and backs up the lannisters and you wonder why he wants to get rid of them? Stannis is hardly a friend to the Starks. He "wished" for Robb Stark's death when Melisandre did the leech trick with Gendry. He's evolved since then I think, but I wouldn't consider Stannis a "friend" to the Starks, merely an ally. I believe he wants to fight and oust the Boltons for several reasons: - He wants to be king, and they are in the way - He knows what they are, and what they stand for - They are allies to the Lannister, and by extension, his ennemies - They have Sansa Stark (although I don't think he knows?), so it could help him rally the North | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
Funny to see stannis being a grammar nazi. It has probably happened a few times in the series but i cant remember. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22518 Posts
Cant help but think the master that Danny is marrying is a dead man. Nice touch to have Drogon hang out at his ancestral roots but overall an uneventful episode that is just setting up for later events. oh and yes the Grey Worm love story is cringe worthy. | ||
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kongoline
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On May 11 2015 15:55 ShurykaN wrote: I don't understand why Stannis and the Boltons have to fight; couldn't Stannis ask them to join his army? It seems like their alliance with the Lannisters isn't very strong at the moment. Would you want to ally with someone who betrayed their own allies in the war against the lannisters? I mean he personally stuck a dagger through Rob Stark's heart and he was from the north. Stannis isn't from the North, I wouldn't trust the boltons ever just because they've already betrayed their own because it was starting to look bad. | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On May 12 2015 00:28 blade55555 wrote: Would you want to ally with someone who betrayed their own allies in the war against the lannisters? I mean he personally stuck a dagger through Rob Stark's heart and he was from the north. Stannis isn't from the North, I wouldn't trust the boltons ever just because they've already betrayed their own because it was starting to look bad. Stannis also has a really strong sense of duty and justice, while not really holding a grudge. This means he is ok with making Hand of the King the guy he cut off the fingers of for smuggling. He thinks Rob was a traitor for betraying the realm, and he thinks the Boltons are murderers for wiping out half the nobility of the North out of petty vengeance. It'll be ugly what happens to Walder Frey if Stannis gets that far south. The real problem for him is there aren't a lot of people he could really ally with: -Littlefinger could be a temporary ally against the Boltons, but he's not temperamentally suited to being a long-term Stannis ally. -The Tyrells haven't done anything that offends his sense of justice beyond temporary alliances with two of his enemies, but they're basically in control of the throne he wants now, so barring a really good royal marriage that's out of the question. -The Dornish could theoretically work. Mostly the two are united by hatred of the Lannisters. Dorne does seem to kinda want to keep out of all of it though. -Lannisters are obviously out of the question, unless that guy in King's Landing turns out to really hate Cersei that much. -Probably the best candidate is the "Brotherhood without Banners." Same religion, concern for justice, hatred of Lannisters, admiration of Ned Stark. Not sure how militarily strong they are though. The religion thing is an impediment, but perhaps not terminal. On the one hand, if Stannis just goes the religious tolerance route (I don't see him trying to convert Jon Snow terribly hard), he could just add a third religion to the two alreay flourishing. Another possibility exist too: the Faith of the Seven doesn't actually seem to be taken seriously by many people, and the fanatics of the Faith Militant could theoretically poison the reputation of the religion as a whole just enough for Stannis to step in and clean things up. | ||
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Grovbolle
Denmark3814 Posts
On May 08 2015 01:45 Yoav wrote: Yeah obviously tier lists are a silly exercise, if fun. What really matters is different expertise, and how it matters in practice and as regards the character. Brienne is insanely good at dueling--she's repeatedly taken on the best in Westeros and beaten them in swordplay with efficient bladework and skillful disarms. But we have no idea what she's like in a battle. The Mountain would be a terror on the battlefield, capable of cleaving through groups of enemies, but his relative lack of finesse made him vulnerable in 1v1. Oberyrn was an insane fighter, who ended up biting it because of overconfidence. Bronn would probably be up there for generally being useful in any situation. Or how about this situation: who loses in a one-on-one in an open field against a competent archer? That's actually bad news for a few of the best: Snow, Oberyn, and Bronn are all probably hosed. Loras, Brienne, and even fucking Tywin might well make it. This is a good analysis. I'm not sure the Sand Snakes are that rational, but if I were Doran, I'd be explaining this to them, and set them off to take out Tommen, not harm their only hope out of a silly idea of revenge. Also, there's a chance that Stannis would have his claim considered disqualified by some on the grounds of his religion. We haven't seen clear laws on this in Westeros, but I can easily imagine that somebody could oppose it on religious grounds (heck, most viewers do). Religion doesn't matter when you have the bigger army. Robert won the throne by conquest, so can Stannis. | ||
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Warfie
Norway2848 Posts
On May 12 2015 03:28 AsnSensation wrote: Does Tyrion have greyscale now? Not sure if he didn't remember because he was unconcious and almost drowing but one of the stone men most definitely grabbed him underwater and from his tone and demeanour it seemed like he was lying to Jorah. But then it again it didn't look like direct contact but he was only touched on his boot/pants. I think it's direct skin contact, which didn't happen. Would be totally mind fuck since Jorah already 'showed' the viewers he has it hehe | ||
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On May 12 2015 05:33 Grovbolle wrote: Religion doesn't matter when you have the bigger army. Robert won the throne by conquest, so can Stannis. Winning the throne is different than being able to rule. If religion was taken seriously, it might be a problem. However, for reasons outlined above, I think he may be able to overcome the fact that his religion involves burning people alive for not joining up. /*This is, incidentally, a way more aggressive attitude than Christianity or Islam took at pretty much any point; apostasy has often been punished, particularly in the Muslim world where the religion has explicit rules against it, but failure to convert is usually just dealt with via social pressure or heavier taxation (again, particularly the latter in Muslim territories). Even Spain was more liberal than the Red God's guys... the expulsion was just that, and the violent persecution largely targeted those who either secretly practiced other faiths or, or converted to them afterward. Violent witch hunts of heretics or infidels are historically mostly just mob violence, relatively rarely conducted from on high.*/ | ||
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