What Are You Reading 2016 - Page 14
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
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dmnum
Brazil6910 Posts
On October 14 2016 01:41 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: I've spent years defending the importance/relevance of the Nobel lit prize. It's not the end all be all but I always thought it did well as the standard bearer of literature's impact and place in society. 2016 just makes me feel like an idiot. Everyone who has said the Nobel is a farce has been proven correct. If the Nobel were a serious prize Borges would've won. But alas, he supported the right wing dictatorships of South America. I'm not gonna lecture you about the fact that the Nobel is as political as it is technical because you already know that. But look at the last two winners: a journalist and a musician. It is obvious that the committe is challenging traditional notions of what constitutes literature. Also, it is a big fuck you to every American critic who has whined for the last 20 years about Bloom's Big Four not being awarded the Nobel. They already said why they didn't win - American literature is too insular -, but people kept pestering them, saying it was a travesty that Roth or Pynchon was not a laureate(as if there weren't a ton of other countries with equally worth writers in them). I'd not be surprised if Stephen Sondheim or some screenwriter wins it in the coming years. | ||
Surth
Germany456 Posts
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
![]() I read Inherent Vice earlier this year and thought it was pretty good, but this is really driving me nuts. I think I'm 90 pages in or something and I have absolutely no clue what's going on. There's new characters on every page, they're called Eigenvalue and McClinticSphere, people are hunting alligators in the sewers, I was pretty sure 'V' was a person but then it also seems to be a nightclub and I have absolutely no idea whether the story is taking place in New York or Egypt at the moment. Also there are sentences that just never end, and suddenly people start to sing in Italian This book might be too much for me | ||
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Flicky
England2657 Posts
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farvacola
United States18819 Posts
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
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dmnum
Brazil6910 Posts
Sabbath's Theater and Blood Meridian kick ass, and Portnoy's Complaint is the funniest book I've read. It's not that Pynchon is bad, but in my view he's in a level below. Anyway, I'm reading this: ![]() It's pretty good, there are a lot of misconceptions about learning out there. | ||
IgnE
United States7681 Posts
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dmnum
Brazil6910 Posts
Edit: also that you learn better when the studying is easy(it's better to have some difficulty, as long as you can overcome it). | ||
IgnE
United States7681 Posts
On October 19 2016 10:22 dmnum wrote: Mainly that spaced rereadings is the best way to learn(the best way is spaced retrieval, i.e. trying to remember what you studied) and that quizzes should be done after studying a topic, but not before(studies show that you learn more if you do quizzes before and after studying). Edit: also that you learn better when the studying is easy(it's better to have some difficulty, as long as you can overcome it). the bolded seems contradictory to me and i'm not sure what your edit means | ||
dmnum
Brazil6910 Posts
Anyway, on the quizzing before and after testing, they basically did a study where they made one group students try to solve a problem before being told the answer, while another group was presented with the answer being made to solve the problem. One month later they did quizzed both groups and the first one did better than the second. The part about studying being better when it's hard branches into a lot of studies, so I won't cite them all, but here's two examples: once again they took two groups of people to teach how to play hockey: one practiced a part of the game(skating, for example) until they had mastered it, and then moved on to the next task(let's say shooting the puck), while the other practiced a little bit of skating, then moved on the shooting the puck, and so on, before training skating again. The latter group felt frustrated about being made to move on to another thing before mastering the first because, according to them, that made them feel like they learned almost nothing; however, on latter tests, they did better than the first group; On another test, they made one group read a topic twice, while another group read it once and then tried to remember what they read without looking at the book; the second group learned better. There's a bunch of examples, and all the studies mentioned in the book were published in peer reviewed periodicals, so it's credible. This article presents some of the points made in the book: https://info.maths.ed.ac.uk/assets/files/LandT/what_works_what_doesnt.pdf Of course it doesn't go in depth into the topics, and the book contains a lot more information, but it's only 8 pages so it's worth a quick read. | ||
Surth
Germany456 Posts
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
On October 19 2016 14:48 dmnum wrote: Sorry, was in a rush and couldn't reply properly. Anyway, on the quizzing before and after testing, they basically did a study where they made one group students try to solve a problem before being told the answer, while another group was presented with the answer being made to solve the problem. One month later they did quizzed both groups and the first one did better than the second. The part about studying being better when it's hard branches into a lot of studies, so I won't cite them all, but here's two examples: once again they took two groups of people to teach how to play hockey: one practiced a part of the game(skating, for example) until they had mastered it, and then moved on to the next task(let's say shooting the puck), while the other practiced a little bit of skating, then moved on the shooting the puck, and so on, before training skating again. The latter group felt frustrated about being made to move on to another thing before mastering the first because, according to them, that made them feel like they learned almost nothing; however, on latter tests, they did better than the first group; On another test, they made one group read a topic twice, while another group read it once and then tried to remember what they read without looking at the book; the second group learned better. There's a bunch of examples, and all the studies mentioned in the book were published in peer reviewed periodicals, so it's credible. This article presents some of the points made in the book: https://info.maths.ed.ac.uk/assets/files/LandT/what_works_what_doesnt.pdf Of course it doesn't go in depth into the topics, and the book contains a lot more information, but it's only 8 pages so it's worth a quick read. none of those methods really make sense for self-study of philosophy and theory. they are memorization techniques. and they shit on "marking the text". what am i to do? | ||
Surth
Germany456 Posts
i cant tell you why until next year, but i thought "burn down university" was a snappy title for a thesis. ill find the reasons later. | ||
Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
![]() + Echopraxia, those were two pretty depressing books. Great reads though. | ||
{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
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