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[SCIFI Series] The Expanse - Page 11

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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 29 2018 13:54 GMT
#201
I love this show!
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-29 21:44:50
June 29 2018 15:12 GMT
#202
Yea, double episode was great So it's only now the real "Expanse" begins :O
I love how "grey" characters are in these series, no obvious evil vs good, everybody got their skeletons hidden, yet - still manages to make a heroic choices when it needs!

Hey, book readers, a small question for you(not that important tho):
+ Show Spoiler +
Bobby stays with Rosi crew?
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alpenrahm
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany629 Posts
June 30 2018 00:46 GMT
#203
obviously. (L)mao
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
June 30 2018 10:32 GMT
#204
Not for me, I thought exactly the same after Io events :D Thx
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
alpenrahm
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany629 Posts
June 30 2018 16:00 GMT
#205
yea but this time is different. one does not kill two bros, defy a direct order and then return to the corps
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
July 03 2018 08:40 GMT
#206
I was lucky to start seeing the show when 8 episodes where out, so I didn't feel the 40 minutes horror.

I like how character seems to evolve, first I didn't like bobby, but she turned out ok. The pastor lady I'm mixed about, but I think she seems to seek inwards. That the stuff she does, is for her issues, and she admits it. And she didn't go all "nobody gets hurt!" dialogue that is a plague riding a lot of tv shows.

Really like the wrapping up part where there was no evil loses, good win. That shit is expanding my mind
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-04 06:06:40
July 04 2018 05:56 GMT
#207
What I like the most about this series is not the stories but how it is real SciFi. It is by far the most realistic SciFi that TV has ever done. How it portrays space travel and acceleration, zero g or the realization that anything that allows faster than light travel of course also has the power to destroy stars etc.

The plot makes more sense than in most other TV shows as well, especially in that genre. The two main writers of the books and show are fantastic.
My only issue was with the acting, a few people were hard to tolerate (Holden, Nagata, a few others as well). I loved Amos though, character and actor. :D
Off-season = best season
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5860 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-04 08:23:19
July 04 2018 08:20 GMT
#208
In the series it's great. The books are a bit lacking in the science department, though, but it's fortunately not detracting from the story. :-)

Although the show can be a little inconsistent at times. At the military ship we were told that internal bleeding in null-g is a death sentence. Then we saw Ashford getting his lung punctured and Drummer deciding to potentially sacrifice her life for him even though realistically he would die soon. :-P
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
July 04 2018 10:07 GMT
#209
I would still place BSG above The Expanse in terms of realism, but only by a small margin. The world of BSG felt more real and deeper, not because of how accurate they got the science (which they did imo) but because the characters were so well done, which is something The Expanse isnt that good at. Still its a great show and Im glad Amazon picked it up.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17829 Posts
July 04 2018 11:40 GMT
#210
On July 04 2018 14:56 Redox wrote:
My only issue was with the acting, a few people were hard to tolerate (Holden, Nagata, a few others as well). I loved Amos though, character and actor. :D


Amos is boss. Holden looks like he's seriously stoned all the time, which is super annoying.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
July 04 2018 12:07 GMT
#211
yeah its unfortunate that their most central character feels like the weakest part of their cast. Bring Dawes back, loved how he was portrayed

Also, with amazon and more catering to the streaming audience instead of tv, i'm guessing theres more of a chance for Avasarala to show off her capacity for verbal violence imgur album of motivational quotes and aphorisms
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Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-04 16:25:44
July 04 2018 16:25 GMT
#212
On July 04 2018 20:40 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2018 14:56 Redox wrote:
My only issue was with the acting, a few people were hard to tolerate (Holden, Nagata, a few others as well). I loved Amos though, character and actor. :D


Amos is boss. Holden looks like he's seriously stoned all the time, which is super annoying.


He was stoned for sure in those alien station :D looked like pure acid trip

Amos is great indeed, not only his character but the actor as a person himself, I've heard a couple of interviews with him (interesting one was with Adam Savage while filming cameo in the end of s2) and he impressed me, very positive dude.
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4228 Posts
July 04 2018 17:46 GMT
#213
On July 04 2018 19:07 FreakyDroid wrote:
I would still place BSG above The Expanse in terms of realism, but only by a small margin. The world of BSG felt more real and deeper, not because of how accurate they got the science (which they did imo) but because the characters were so well done, which is something The Expanse isnt that good at. Still its a great show and Im glad Amazon picked it up.

Well it also depends on what kind of science we're talking about. Space battles yes, but FTL and like the cylons? not so much :-P
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-05 16:46:11
July 05 2018 16:38 GMT
#214
On July 04 2018 21:07 Aocowns wrote:
yeah its unfortunate that their most central character feels like the weakest part of their cast. Bring Dawes back, loved how he was portrayed

Also, with amazon and more catering to the streaming audience instead of tv, i'm guessing theres more of a chance for Avasarala to show off her capacity for verbal violence imgur album of motivational quotes and aphorisms

It just doesn’t carry the same weight if she isn’t a 70 old granny that constantly belittles Holden. We will never get an entire story arch where she sends Holden on a mission because she knows he will fuck it up, only to have him got meta and fuck up her plan by succeeding.

On July 04 2018 19:07 FreakyDroid wrote:
I would still place BSG above The Expanse in terms of realism, but only by a small margin. The world of BSG felt more real and deeper, not because of how accurate they got the science (which they did imo) but because the characters were so well done, which is something The Expanse isnt that good at. Still its a great show and Im glad Amazon picked it up.

The thing the book and the series got about space combat is that it’s a really stupid idea due to the speed of things in space. It’s like bullets shooting at each other while traveling in opposite directions with faster bullets.

The first book talks about how all it would take to mess earth up is a whole lot of anvils “dropped” on it at sufficient speed. And that the first thing mars and earth did before they went to war was track and stake out every possible asteroid was large enough to be a threat. It is a book series(and show) that is interested in the logistics of war and how distance is a huge factor in how wars are fought.

I was a little bummed they never got into space personal fire arms and how those guns fire tiny rockets, because firing a tradition gun in zero-g is super stupid.
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FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-05 17:20:19
July 05 2018 17:19 GMT
#215
On July 05 2018 02:46 lestye wrote:
Well it also depends on what kind of science we're talking about. Space battles yes, but FTL and like the cylons? not so much :-P


Well the Cylons arent really that hard to imagine imo, sure we are far from achieving that, but its certainly within the realm of possibility considering how fast the AI and machine learning are advancing and the fact that scientists are growing body parts in a 'petri dish'. FTL is a different story, sure its not realistic now, but there are some FTL concepts that are grounded in real science like the warp drive, which go around the speed limit of light by bending space. In fact the Universe expands faster than light because space stretches.

I find the protomolecule and the portals far more outlandish than FTL and Cylons. But then again, we had head Six, head Baltar and Angel Kara in BSG, so yeah ... :D

On July 06 2018 01:38 Plansix wrote:
The thing the book and the series got about space combat is that it’s a really stupid idea due to the speed of things in space. It’s like bullets shooting at each other while traveling in opposite directions with faster bullets.

The first book talks about how all it would take to mess earth up is a whole lot of anvils “dropped” on it at sufficient speed. And that the first thing mars and earth did before they went to war was track and stake out every possible asteroid was large enough to be a threat. It is a book series(and show) that is interested in the logistics of war and how distance is a huge factor in how wars are fought.

I was a little bummed they never got into space personal fire arms and how those guns fire tiny rockets, because firing a tradition gun in zero-g is super stupid.


Havent read the books but that's cool. I think firing a gun in a space suit in zero g without having anything to plant your feet on is .... yeah stupid. But firing bullets from a spacecraft that can counter the reverse force of the bullets with its propulsion isnt such a bad idea.

Anyways, when I said realism, I meant it more about the characters. I think BSG did a way better job at portraying the characters realistically and they were blessed with an incredible cast, an amazing score/soundtracks, great visuals and impressive cinematography. The Expanse on the other hand has some incredible characters and some good actors, but their biggest problem imo is the main actor that plays Holden (and to some extent the Martian guy on the Roci) who is their weakest link. I think if they had a more convincing actor for his role, the show would have been much better received.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 05 2018 17:22 GMT
#216
I don't really have a problem with the actors playing Holden or Alex. They both do good jobs at keeping those roles interesting.
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FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-05 17:39:27
July 05 2018 17:39 GMT
#217
I dont have a problem with them either, their performances certainly doesn't affect my enjoyment, but I think they are not as good as the other actors.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
ahw
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-05 18:09:16
July 05 2018 18:08 GMT
#218
i think alex is one of the best on the show. AFAIK the authors campaigned for him pretty hard, too, and i like his take on the character.

i think naomi is a bit meh. most others are good.

holden was pretty forgettable for most of the second season but the end of this season gave him a chance to be more
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4228 Posts
November 15 2018 13:05 GMT
#219
Season 3 is now on prime in the U.S.
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esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
November 17 2018 13:35 GMT
#220
I still can't believe SciFi made a good series compared to their usual low budget trash.
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
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