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thePunGun
598 Posts
Two things, that went through my head: 1.+ Show Spoiler + "Wow....Billy....you actually f**kin drove your wife to kill herself and then to top it all off, you've just killed your own daughter...congra..uhm...That's so messed up!!!" 2.+ Show Spoiler +  ..Uhm, uhh..I mean.. why Teddy, whyyy!!"  | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5496 Posts
 Was a real WTF moment for me, by the way. | ||
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ahw
Canada1099 Posts
hopefully e10 makes things cohesive | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9486 Posts
On June 20 2018 00:30 ahw wrote: this seasons pretty awful hopefully e10 makes things cohesive I've really enjoyed it. I like the patchwork approach. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17918 Posts
On June 19 2018 15:57 maybenexttime wrote: @1 You could say that in a way his life is now complete. Was a real WTF moment for me, by the way. Agreed. We all knew MIB was fucked up, but we had no clue about the depths of his fucked-uppedness. Granted, he believed she was a host, but really only because he's a paranoid lunatic who had decieved himself into that belief. Also, what are "core functionalities" and how far over 9000 did Maive's power just go? | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
Episode 8 was very amazing though. The Lakota language has such a beautiful sound to it. And super impressed with the actor Zahn McClarnon. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10639 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Atleast Teddy is dead, he had no place because for some reason they made Dolores into super vengefull badass, i don't remember her like that from the end of S1... Hell in S1 i hated Maeve, now i like her but constantly hope Dolores catches several bullets. EP8 was really amazing tho | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia12996 Posts
The narrative has been a bit weak and overly obtuse. Doesn’t really feel like the story has moved much this season. I’m not so sure what the point is this season. | ||
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Bourgeois
81 Posts
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KwarK
United States42255 Posts
On June 22 2018 01:27 Bourgeois wrote: Meh, the truth is season 1 was pretty bullshit too and boring as fuck, but people didn't dare speak against popular opinion so even people who didn't enjoy it tried to come across as "cultured" by pretending to like it. It's a good thing that people aren't willing to put up with too much bullshit anymore and now that the trend for bashing this show has started it'll eventually reach equilibrium. Or perhaps people who don’t enjoy a show tended not to keep watching it. Positive bias towards any subjective form of entertainment is pretty much a requirement of members of the audience of the show. | ||
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solidusx3
United States12 Posts
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kju
6143 Posts
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On June 20 2018 00:31 Jockmcplop wrote: I've really enjoyed it. I like the patchwork approach. I think they failed on some of the story telling this season honestly. Seems like they didn't have as solid of a storyline like S1 which was just solid and tightly told. This season there has been several "filler" episodes (shogun world and Ghost nation in particular. Not bad episodes, but neither really progressed the plot much. I sorta dozed off during shogun world), and almost no character development to several characters. Dolores especially has been incredibly flat this season which sucks as she was the focus of S1. Having said that I do like that William and Bernard have taken on more central roles this season. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On June 22 2018 01:27 Bourgeois wrote: Meh, the truth is season 1 was pretty bullshit too and boring as fuck, but people didn't dare speak against popular opinion so even people who didn't enjoy it tried to come across as "cultured" by pretending to like it. It's a good thing that people aren't willing to put up with too much bullshit anymore and now that the trend for bashing this show has started it'll eventually reach equilibrium. This is definitely just your opinion. S1 had me riveted and I binge watched it all in a matter of days. I am a philosophy geek though, so even the "dry" stuff had tons of depth and layers for me to explore. | ||
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ahw
Canada1099 Posts
On June 23 2018 01:18 Tictock wrote: I think they failed on some of the story telling this season honestly. Seems like they didn't have as solid of a storyline like S1 which was just solid and tightly told. This season there has been several "filler" episodes (shogun world and Ghost nation in particular. Not bad episodes, but neither really progressed the plot much. I sorta dozed off during shogun world), and almost no character development to several characters. Dolores especially has been incredibly flat this season which sucks as she was the focus of S1. Having said that I do like that William and Bernard have taken on more central roles this season. Yeah this is more or less my issue with s2. Pacing in the middle episodes was lost, I kept thinking, “get on with it already”, like 3 episodes of content could be trimmed out to make it cohesive. Almost all of the Delores storyline, especially the painfully flat teddy story. The shogun world stuff took me out completely, and with the broken pacing, it actually made me dislike the much better ghost nation episode. Objectively that one was probably up there with their best episodes, but where it falls in the story just screws with my patience. I think I’d enjoy it more if I binged it in a week, fixes some pacing issues for shows | ||
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thePunGun
598 Posts
Great finale. Loved how they've summed up humanity's state of mind as 'collective delusion', which is probably one the most accurate descriptions of our presumptuous and ignorant species  , I've heard in a while. West World's 2nd Season maybe wasn't as good as Season 1, but it definitely had its moments. My favorite Episode by far was Ep. 8 Kiksuya. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9486 Posts
On June 26 2018 00:59 thePunGun wrote: "Is....is..this...now?! Great finale. Loved how they've summed up humanity's state of mind as 'collective delusion', which is probably one the most accurate descriptions of our presumptuous and ignorant species , I've heard in a while. West World's 2nd Season maybe wasn't as good as Season 1, but it definitely had its moments. My favorite Episode by far was Ep. 8 Kiksuya. Agreed on all of that. Also I would never have watched the self indulgent after credits scene if it hadn't been for the fact that they used Codex by Radiohead as the outro tune. The music has been incredible again in season 2 and the cinematography is just...wow I think the story got a bit lost at times and there were definite peaks and troughs in quality, but still really good. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
The library of humanity, the infinite copies of Delos' founder (I forget his name) and the implication that there is something similar with William and all the other humans, Arnold's "afterlife" for the hosts which is what they had been calling the Valley Beyond I really loved the relationship they created for Dolores and Bernard, I think Bernard is my fav character of the series at this point. Some thoughts about the ending which at first had me and my friends confused. + Show Spoiler + I think the stuff with William at the end is actually occurring around the end of Season 3, ala how we started S2 with Bernard at the end of the S2 story. So S3 will be explaining how William dies and comes back as a host. I really don't think the William we know up to this point has been a Host, it's too weird for his character. Possible, I suppose, but I doubt it. I think the stuff with him digging around in his arm is a traumatized human William who is hoping he is actually a host as a way of escaping the fact that he had killed his only daughter. Overall I felt a little let down we got so little about William in this last ep. The end with Charlett-Dolores (Char-lores? or Dol-arlett?) recreating not only another version of Bernard but another version of herself with her original body really had me confused at first. Just kus I couldn't figure out why Char-lores would need another version of herself. Having thought more on it though I think she had to do that to properly fidelity test Bernard. On a similar note though I don't know why William's fidelity test would need him to have his hand blown off still. Seemed like a cheap way to add confusion for the audience as to when that was taking place, but maybe it will make sense in S3. I agree with thePunGun, all the stuff they did about Humanity vs the Hosts was great. They did a great job of making us fully sympathize with the Hosts and hating the Humans, which they have actually done very well during the entire series, but this was just another great factor to that. | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On June 26 2018 07:39 Yhamm wrote: the part after the credit is confirmed to be far in the future, way after season 3 So the fact that he looks just like he did at the end of S2 is super pandering to the audience? As in it makes no sense why he would actually be made that way and is only so that the audience can connect with him from how they last saw him. Yea, I’m probably being overly critical here, but still. | ||
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