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On June 27 2009 05:23 rei wrote:
Poor Gara, his ganna get shit all over by Sasuke.
I hope they don't drag this interim period too much, Sasuke & Hawk vs. the 5 Kages would be the fucking shit (if it does happen, something tells me that Danzo can't be disposed of that easily for someone who has been a weaseldouche throughout almost the entire series).
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On June 27 2009 05:10 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2009 05:05 TealLurker wrote:On June 27 2009 04:59 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 04:53 TealLurker wrote:On June 27 2009 04:21 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 04:18 rei wrote:
yes, you can think of it as Sasuke has two different stamina just like naruto. His own and Orochimaru's. The differences is that naruto can't control 9tail, but Sasuke can due to his Eyes I don't think that quite makes sense, because Sasuke would then have to be using the sharingan at all times to control Orochimaru, which he doesn't. I think what happened is he basically contained Orochimaru inside him, but not as a power waiting to explode out of him and being held back by a seal or any active restraint, but more like a can that contains water - opening the lid doesn't let the water out, unless you choose to do so. + Show Spoiler +Sasuke was suppressing Orochimaru with his chakra. If you remember that when Sasuke ran out of chakra in his fight with Itachi, Orochimaru reappeared. Orochimaru (like the Kyuubi to Naruto) offered his power to help Sasuke out of the situation, but Sasuke refused, but lost out and those hydras came out. Because he used the last bit of his chakra on that thunderbolt attack on Itachi, he didn't have any to hold Orochimaru down. + Show Spoiler +I don't think Orochimaru just escaped Sasuke's bond and decided to help Sasuke, I think if Orochimaru was able to escape and live on he wouldn't fight Itachi for Sasuke's sake (he has been pretty much defeated by Itachi before). I think Sasuke chose to use Orochimaru because he was desperate. + Show Spoiler +True. Sasuke was desperate and Orochimaru was just going to "help" him, but it was just to merely satisfy his own ends. After all, his intention was to possess Sasuke's body somehow. What better opportunity was there than when Itachi drained him of all his chakra? But yeah...we know how this thing turned out... + Show Spoiler +Orochimaru needs energy/control to take over a body as well, so if he were to leave Sasuke's body to fight Itachi, who like I said before has also defeated him before, wouldn't he also be incredibly drained even if he does win? Hence, I see no ulterior motive to Orochimaru's actions in the battle, and I think that Sasuke was in complete control of Orochimaru even when Orochimaru partially left his body. If you think back to the way Orochimaru changed bodies, and the ceremony he tried to do to Sasuke, the bodies of former hosts were in the alternate dimension, sleeping. Sasuke's control over Orochimaru in his body probably put him in the same state - dormant, not showing any signs of breaking free. Also note that Orochimaru was looking to take Sasuke's body to use the Sharingan, so it should logically follow that if the reverse happened (which it did), Sasuke should freely be able to use the abilities of Orochimaru or his entire body at will (because it was inside him).
+ Show Spoiler +Orochimaru had the advantage this time around against Itachi because he had used up all his chakra and wasn't able to use his sharingan any longer, that was the only thing that stopped Orochimaru the first time around. When Susano'o was released Itachi's Mangekyo Sharingan had disappeared from his eyes. So Orochimaru definitely thought he had the advantage over a weakened Itachi, but Itachi was always a step ahead, and two steps ahead of Sasuke.
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On June 27 2009 05:27 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2009 05:23 rei wrote:
Poor Gara, his ganna get shit all over by Sasuke. I hope they don't drag this interim period too much, Sasuke & Hawk vs. the 5 Kages would be the fucking shit (if it does happen, something tells me that Danzo can't be disposed of that easily for someone who has been a weaseldouche throughout almost the entire series).
I forgot who in this thread, but someone was quite opposed to my suggestion that Danzo wasn't as weak as he looked. Uh I just remembered, how did the old Third Hokage not look weak as a much older man to Danzo? Yet the Third still fought off the zombie First and Second Hokages and Orochimaru (with help of course). Plus, when has ANYTHING in Naruto always been what it looked like on the surface? I'm waiting to see what the other Kages can do.
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On June 27 2009 05:34 Phantom wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2009 05:27 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 05:23 rei wrote:
Poor Gara, his ganna get shit all over by Sasuke. I hope they don't drag this interim period too much, Sasuke & Hawk vs. the 5 Kages would be the fucking shit (if it does happen, something tells me that Danzo can't be disposed of that easily for someone who has been a weaseldouche throughout almost the entire series). I forgot who in this thread, but someone was quite opposed to my suggestion that Danzo wasn't as weak as he looked. Uh I just remembered, how did the old Third Hokage not look weak as a much older man to Danzo? Yet the Third still fought off the zombie First and Second Hokages and Orochimaru (with help of course). Plus, when has ANYTHING in Naruto always been what it looked like on the surface? I'm waiting to see what the other Kages can do.
Danzo can't be weak, and I never said that he was. In that post I was talking more about the fact that he is a pretty chief villain in the series right now, necessary for Konoha drama and etc.
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On June 27 2009 05:42 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2009 05:34 Phantom wrote:On June 27 2009 05:27 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 05:23 rei wrote:
Poor Gara, his ganna get shit all over by Sasuke. I hope they don't drag this interim period too much, Sasuke & Hawk vs. the 5 Kages would be the fucking shit (if it does happen, something tells me that Danzo can't be disposed of that easily for someone who has been a weaseldouche throughout almost the entire series). I forgot who in this thread, but someone was quite opposed to my suggestion that Danzo wasn't as weak as he looked. Uh I just remembered, how did the old Third Hokage not look weak as a much older man to Danzo? Yet the Third still fought off the zombie First and Second Hokages and Orochimaru (with help of course). Plus, when has ANYTHING in Naruto always been what it looked like on the surface? I'm waiting to see what the other Kages can do. Danzo can't be weak, and I never said that he was. In that post I was talking more about the fact that he is a pretty chief villain in the series right now, necessary for Konoha drama and etc.
He's also soooo clearly tobi it's not funny.
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On June 27 2009 05:31 Phantom wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2009 05:10 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 05:05 TealLurker wrote:On June 27 2009 04:59 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 04:53 TealLurker wrote:On June 27 2009 04:21 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 04:18 rei wrote:
yes, you can think of it as Sasuke has two different stamina just like naruto. His own and Orochimaru's. The differences is that naruto can't control 9tail, but Sasuke can due to his Eyes I don't think that quite makes sense, because Sasuke would then have to be using the sharingan at all times to control Orochimaru, which he doesn't. I think what happened is he basically contained Orochimaru inside him, but not as a power waiting to explode out of him and being held back by a seal or any active restraint, but more like a can that contains water - opening the lid doesn't let the water out, unless you choose to do so. + Show Spoiler +Sasuke was suppressing Orochimaru with his chakra. If you remember that when Sasuke ran out of chakra in his fight with Itachi, Orochimaru reappeared. Orochimaru (like the Kyuubi to Naruto) offered his power to help Sasuke out of the situation, but Sasuke refused, but lost out and those hydras came out. Because he used the last bit of his chakra on that thunderbolt attack on Itachi, he didn't have any to hold Orochimaru down. + Show Spoiler +I don't think Orochimaru just escaped Sasuke's bond and decided to help Sasuke, I think if Orochimaru was able to escape and live on he wouldn't fight Itachi for Sasuke's sake (he has been pretty much defeated by Itachi before). I think Sasuke chose to use Orochimaru because he was desperate. + Show Spoiler +True. Sasuke was desperate and Orochimaru was just going to "help" him, but it was just to merely satisfy his own ends. After all, his intention was to possess Sasuke's body somehow. What better opportunity was there than when Itachi drained him of all his chakra? But yeah...we know how this thing turned out... + Show Spoiler +Orochimaru needs energy/control to take over a body as well, so if he were to leave Sasuke's body to fight Itachi, who like I said before has also defeated him before, wouldn't he also be incredibly drained even if he does win? Hence, I see no ulterior motive to Orochimaru's actions in the battle, and I think that Sasuke was in complete control of Orochimaru even when Orochimaru partially left his body. If you think back to the way Orochimaru changed bodies, and the ceremony he tried to do to Sasuke, the bodies of former hosts were in the alternate dimension, sleeping. Sasuke's control over Orochimaru in his body probably put him in the same state - dormant, not showing any signs of breaking free. Also note that Orochimaru was looking to take Sasuke's body to use the Sharingan, so it should logically follow that if the reverse happened (which it did), Sasuke should freely be able to use the abilities of Orochimaru or his entire body at will (because it was inside him). + Show Spoiler +Orochimaru had the advantage this time around against Itachi because he had used up all his chakra and wasn't able to use his sharingan any longer, that was the only thing that stopped Orochimaru the first time around. When Susano'o was released Itachi's Mangekyo Sharingan had disappeared from his eyes. So Orochimaru definitely thought he had the advantage over a weakened Itachi, but Itachi was always a step ahead, and two steps ahead of Sasuke.
+ Show Spoiler +This is a pretty good point but Orochimaru is also a thinker, he is not a brute. I don't think Orochimaru would fall prey to bait of that sort, Orochimaru historically has been more cautious and calculating about every encounter. An alternate theory could be that Orochimaru helped Sasuke out of self-preservation, because I do believe that if the host (Sasuke) died then Orochimaru probably would as well. However, if Orochimaru had the power to come out like that at any point, why hold it off? And why do it, just to enter a battle? He would have had a better chance of running away after escaping and connecting with Kabuto.
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On June 27 2009 05:44 Shymon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2009 05:42 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 05:34 Phantom wrote:On June 27 2009 05:27 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 05:23 rei wrote:
Poor Gara, his ganna get shit all over by Sasuke. I hope they don't drag this interim period too much, Sasuke & Hawk vs. the 5 Kages would be the fucking shit (if it does happen, something tells me that Danzo can't be disposed of that easily for someone who has been a weaseldouche throughout almost the entire series). I forgot who in this thread, but someone was quite opposed to my suggestion that Danzo wasn't as weak as he looked. Uh I just remembered, how did the old Third Hokage not look weak as a much older man to Danzo? Yet the Third still fought off the zombie First and Second Hokages and Orochimaru (with help of course). Plus, when has ANYTHING in Naruto always been what it looked like on the surface? I'm waiting to see what the other Kages can do. Danzo can't be weak, and I never said that he was. In that post I was talking more about the fact that he is a pretty chief villain in the series right now, necessary for Konoha drama and etc. He's also soooo clearly tobi it's not funny.
A lot of people say this and it is an interesting angle on the story, and I would be amazed/excited if it were true, but I think the odds are quite low.
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If he's Tobi, is Tobi Madara?
If so, gonna be interesting to see him talking to himself at the meeting of the Kages 
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On June 27 2009 05:59 numLoCK wrote:If he's Tobi, is Tobi Madara? If so, gonna be interesting to see him talking to himself at the meeting of the Kages
Tobi is 100% Madara, that has been made obvious already.
Madara/Tobi is not going to the meeting of the 5 Kages, Sasuke and Hawk are. Only way Madara will be at the meeting is if he's Danzo, and if he is then that would be amazing and also an epic rape of the other 4 Kages.
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On June 27 2009 06:02 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2009 05:59 numLoCK wrote:If he's Tobi, is Tobi Madara? If so, gonna be interesting to see him talking to himself at the meeting of the Kages Tobi is 100% Madara, that has been made obvious already. Madara/Tobi is not going to the meeting of the 5 Kages, Sasuke and Hawk are. Only way Madara will be at the meeting is if he's Danzo, and if he is then that would be amazing and also an epic rape of the other 4 Kages.
but didn't Madara get both of his brother's sharingan eyes? So then why is only one eye covered up on Danzo?
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Well since we've only seen one there's nothing to say the other isn't there. I hope it's not though, wouldn't people from way back in the day be able to place Danzou as Madara? ~_~
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On June 27 2009 06:44 Phantom wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2009 06:02 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 05:59 numLoCK wrote:If he's Tobi, is Tobi Madara? If so, gonna be interesting to see him talking to himself at the meeting of the Kages Tobi is 100% Madara, that has been made obvious already. Madara/Tobi is not going to the meeting of the 5 Kages, Sasuke and Hawk are. Only way Madara will be at the meeting is if he's Danzo, and if he is then that would be amazing and also an epic rape of the other 4 Kages. but didn't Madara get both of his brother's sharingan eyes? So then why is only one eye covered up on Danzo?
Have you ever actually seen Danzo's open eye?
And although it is a good point that people from before might notice the connection, but in the ninja world there are plenty of ninjas with one eye covered or sometimes even both concealed. Also, to suspect that the Hokage, whois the leader of Anbu Root, and was a strong contender for the position of 3rd/4th (I believe) Hokage is Madara and not do anything about it seems pretty far-fetched, even for the Naruto universe. On the other hand, everyone thinks Madara is dead, so I don't know.
Still don't think Danzo is Madara though.
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On June 27 2009 07:08 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2009 06:44 Phantom wrote:On June 27 2009 06:02 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 05:59 numLoCK wrote:If he's Tobi, is Tobi Madara? If so, gonna be interesting to see him talking to himself at the meeting of the Kages Tobi is 100% Madara, that has been made obvious already. Madara/Tobi is not going to the meeting of the 5 Kages, Sasuke and Hawk are. Only way Madara will be at the meeting is if he's Danzo, and if he is then that would be amazing and also an epic rape of the other 4 Kages. but didn't Madara get both of his brother's sharingan eyes? So then why is only one eye covered up on Danzo? Have you ever actually seen Danzo's open eye? And although it is a good point that people from before might notice the connection, but in the ninja world there are plenty of ninjas with one eye covered or sometimes even both concealed. Also, to suspect that the Hokage, whois the leader of Anbu Root, and was a strong contender for the position of 3rd/4th (I believe) Hokage is Madara and not do anything about it seems pretty far-fetched, even for the Naruto universe. On the other hand, everyone thinks Madara is dead, so I don't know. Still don't think Danzo is Madara though.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/446/13/
second row, box to the right we see his eye open. I mean, it'd be pretty obvious if it had the sharingan or not. And as for it not being open, that's just how he's drawn i'm sure...
I also don't think Danzo is Madara.
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On June 27 2009 07:22 Phantom wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2009 07:08 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 06:44 Phantom wrote:On June 27 2009 06:02 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 05:59 numLoCK wrote:If he's Tobi, is Tobi Madara? If so, gonna be interesting to see him talking to himself at the meeting of the Kages Tobi is 100% Madara, that has been made obvious already. Madara/Tobi is not going to the meeting of the 5 Kages, Sasuke and Hawk are. Only way Madara will be at the meeting is if he's Danzo, and if he is then that would be amazing and also an epic rape of the other 4 Kages. but didn't Madara get both of his brother's sharingan eyes? So then why is only one eye covered up on Danzo? Have you ever actually seen Danzo's open eye? And although it is a good point that people from before might notice the connection, but in the ninja world there are plenty of ninjas with one eye covered or sometimes even both concealed. Also, to suspect that the Hokage, whois the leader of Anbu Root, and was a strong contender for the position of 3rd/4th (I believe) Hokage is Madara and not do anything about it seems pretty far-fetched, even for the Naruto universe. On the other hand, everyone thinks Madara is dead, so I don't know. Still don't think Danzo is Madara though. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/446/13/second row, box to the right we see his eye open. I mean, it'd be pretty obvious if it had the sharingan or not. And as for it not being open, that's just how he's drawn i'm sure... I also don't think Danzo is Madara.
Yes that's true.
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On June 27 2009 07:26 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2009 07:22 Phantom wrote:On June 27 2009 07:08 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 06:44 Phantom wrote:On June 27 2009 06:02 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 05:59 numLoCK wrote:If he's Tobi, is Tobi Madara? If so, gonna be interesting to see him talking to himself at the meeting of the Kages Tobi is 100% Madara, that has been made obvious already. Madara/Tobi is not going to the meeting of the 5 Kages, Sasuke and Hawk are. Only way Madara will be at the meeting is if he's Danzo, and if he is then that would be amazing and also an epic rape of the other 4 Kages. but didn't Madara get both of his brother's sharingan eyes? So then why is only one eye covered up on Danzo? Have you ever actually seen Danzo's open eye? And although it is a good point that people from before might notice the connection, but in the ninja world there are plenty of ninjas with one eye covered or sometimes even both concealed. Also, to suspect that the Hokage, whois the leader of Anbu Root, and was a strong contender for the position of 3rd/4th (I believe) Hokage is Madara and not do anything about it seems pretty far-fetched, even for the Naruto universe. On the other hand, everyone thinks Madara is dead, so I don't know. Still don't think Danzo is Madara though. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/446/13/second row, box to the right we see his eye open. I mean, it'd be pretty obvious if it had the sharingan or not. And as for it not being open, that's just how he's drawn i'm sure... I also don't think Danzo is Madara. Yes that's true.
however I find that particular section of the manga to be very interesting as it would be the first meeting of Tobi and Nagato IF Tobi is actually Danzo, and Tobi is not Madara. So in a way in that scene Tobi could've forced Nagato's Rinnegan out on purpose as a demonstration for himself.
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On June 27 2009 07:32 Phantom wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2009 07:26 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 07:22 Phantom wrote:On June 27 2009 07:08 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 06:44 Phantom wrote:On June 27 2009 06:02 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 05:59 numLoCK wrote:If he's Tobi, is Tobi Madara? If so, gonna be interesting to see him talking to himself at the meeting of the Kages Tobi is 100% Madara, that has been made obvious already. Madara/Tobi is not going to the meeting of the 5 Kages, Sasuke and Hawk are. Only way Madara will be at the meeting is if he's Danzo, and if he is then that would be amazing and also an epic rape of the other 4 Kages. but didn't Madara get both of his brother's sharingan eyes? So then why is only one eye covered up on Danzo? Have you ever actually seen Danzo's open eye? And although it is a good point that people from before might notice the connection, but in the ninja world there are plenty of ninjas with one eye covered or sometimes even both concealed. Also, to suspect that the Hokage, whois the leader of Anbu Root, and was a strong contender for the position of 3rd/4th (I believe) Hokage is Madara and not do anything about it seems pretty far-fetched, even for the Naruto universe. On the other hand, everyone thinks Madara is dead, so I don't know. Still don't think Danzo is Madara though. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/446/13/second row, box to the right we see his eye open. I mean, it'd be pretty obvious if it had the sharingan or not. And as for it not being open, that's just how he's drawn i'm sure... I also don't think Danzo is Madara. Yes that's true. however I find that particular section of the manga to be very interesting as it would be the first meeting of Tobi and Nagato IF Tobi is actually Danzo, and Tobi is not Madara. So in a way in that scene Tobi could've forced Nagato's Rinnegan out on purpose as a demonstration for himself.
Tobi is 100% Madara.
I don't understand what you mean by forced out... He has no direct control over him. Unless you mean he put him into such a circumstance... In which case I would say that I doubt he knew he had the rinnegan in the first place.
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On June 27 2009 07:40 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2009 07:32 Phantom wrote:On June 27 2009 07:26 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 07:22 Phantom wrote:On June 27 2009 07:08 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 06:44 Phantom wrote:On June 27 2009 06:02 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 05:59 numLoCK wrote:If he's Tobi, is Tobi Madara? If so, gonna be interesting to see him talking to himself at the meeting of the Kages Tobi is 100% Madara, that has been made obvious already. Madara/Tobi is not going to the meeting of the 5 Kages, Sasuke and Hawk are. Only way Madara will be at the meeting is if he's Danzo, and if he is then that would be amazing and also an epic rape of the other 4 Kages. but didn't Madara get both of his brother's sharingan eyes? So then why is only one eye covered up on Danzo? Have you ever actually seen Danzo's open eye? And although it is a good point that people from before might notice the connection, but in the ninja world there are plenty of ninjas with one eye covered or sometimes even both concealed. Also, to suspect that the Hokage, whois the leader of Anbu Root, and was a strong contender for the position of 3rd/4th (I believe) Hokage is Madara and not do anything about it seems pretty far-fetched, even for the Naruto universe. On the other hand, everyone thinks Madara is dead, so I don't know. Still don't think Danzo is Madara though. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/446/13/second row, box to the right we see his eye open. I mean, it'd be pretty obvious if it had the sharingan or not. And as for it not being open, that's just how he's drawn i'm sure... I also don't think Danzo is Madara. Yes that's true. however I find that particular section of the manga to be very interesting as it would be the first meeting of Tobi and Nagato IF Tobi is actually Danzo, and Tobi is not Madara. So in a way in that scene Tobi could've forced Nagato's Rinnegan out on purpose as a demonstration for himself. Tobi is 100% Madara. I don't understand what you mean by forced out... He has no direct control over him. Unless you mean he put him into such a circumstance... In which case I would say that I doubt he knew he had the rinnegan in the first place.
yeah youre right
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On June 27 2009 07:41 SiGurD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2009 07:40 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 07:32 Phantom wrote:On June 27 2009 07:26 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 07:22 Phantom wrote:On June 27 2009 07:08 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 06:44 Phantom wrote:On June 27 2009 06:02 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 05:59 numLoCK wrote:If he's Tobi, is Tobi Madara? If so, gonna be interesting to see him talking to himself at the meeting of the Kages Tobi is 100% Madara, that has been made obvious already. Madara/Tobi is not going to the meeting of the 5 Kages, Sasuke and Hawk are. Only way Madara will be at the meeting is if he's Danzo, and if he is then that would be amazing and also an epic rape of the other 4 Kages. but didn't Madara get both of his brother's sharingan eyes? So then why is only one eye covered up on Danzo? Have you ever actually seen Danzo's open eye? And although it is a good point that people from before might notice the connection, but in the ninja world there are plenty of ninjas with one eye covered or sometimes even both concealed. Also, to suspect that the Hokage, whois the leader of Anbu Root, and was a strong contender for the position of 3rd/4th (I believe) Hokage is Madara and not do anything about it seems pretty far-fetched, even for the Naruto universe. On the other hand, everyone thinks Madara is dead, so I don't know. Still don't think Danzo is Madara though. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/446/13/second row, box to the right we see his eye open. I mean, it'd be pretty obvious if it had the sharingan or not. And as for it not being open, that's just how he's drawn i'm sure... I also don't think Danzo is Madara. Yes that's true. however I find that particular section of the manga to be very interesting as it would be the first meeting of Tobi and Nagato IF Tobi is actually Danzo, and Tobi is not Madara. So in a way in that scene Tobi could've forced Nagato's Rinnegan out on purpose as a demonstration for himself. Tobi is 100% Madara. I don't understand what you mean by forced out... He has no direct control over him. Unless you mean he put him into such a circumstance... In which case I would say that I doubt he knew he had the rinnegan in the first place. yeah youre right
I appreciate the support but YOU DIDN'T READ THE MANGA SO YOU HAVE NO OPINION ]:<
This is how you will be treated until you read the manga, make your own decision there n_n
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On June 27 2009 07:40 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2009 07:32 Phantom wrote:On June 27 2009 07:26 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 07:22 Phantom wrote:On June 27 2009 07:08 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 06:44 Phantom wrote:On June 27 2009 06:02 fanatacist wrote:On June 27 2009 05:59 numLoCK wrote:If he's Tobi, is Tobi Madara? If so, gonna be interesting to see him talking to himself at the meeting of the Kages Tobi is 100% Madara, that has been made obvious already. Madara/Tobi is not going to the meeting of the 5 Kages, Sasuke and Hawk are. Only way Madara will be at the meeting is if he's Danzo, and if he is then that would be amazing and also an epic rape of the other 4 Kages. but didn't Madara get both of his brother's sharingan eyes? So then why is only one eye covered up on Danzo? Have you ever actually seen Danzo's open eye? And although it is a good point that people from before might notice the connection, but in the ninja world there are plenty of ninjas with one eye covered or sometimes even both concealed. Also, to suspect that the Hokage, whois the leader of Anbu Root, and was a strong contender for the position of 3rd/4th (I believe) Hokage is Madara and not do anything about it seems pretty far-fetched, even for the Naruto universe. On the other hand, everyone thinks Madara is dead, so I don't know. Still don't think Danzo is Madara though. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/446/13/second row, box to the right we see his eye open. I mean, it'd be pretty obvious if it had the sharingan or not. And as for it not being open, that's just how he's drawn i'm sure... I also don't think Danzo is Madara. Yes that's true. however I find that particular section of the manga to be very interesting as it would be the first meeting of Tobi and Nagato IF Tobi is actually Danzo, and Tobi is not Madara. So in a way in that scene Tobi could've forced Nagato's Rinnegan out on purpose as a demonstration for himself. Tobi is 100% Madara. I don't understand what you mean by forced out... He has no direct control over him. Unless you mean he put him into such a circumstance... In which case I would say that I doubt he knew he had the rinnegan in the first place.
Oh...right...well then...I don't see Danzo being Tobi/Madara.
And yah I meant he put him in that situation.
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Tobi said something about Pain's rinne tensei was suppose to be used on him. Rinne Tensei is the spell that revived all the people, which indicates that Tobi's soul is somewhere else in need of revive.
Tobi also said something about Gedo Mazo and syncing with Sacuke, is that the tailed beast extracting summon? and only those who are synced with Gedo mazo can control the tailed beasts?
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