[Manga] Naruto - Page 584

On October 11 2012 22:25 wonnaplay wrote:
Kakashi was using it in the fight with Obito on a flying kunai... if that ain't a moving target then I don't know what is.

Back on latest chapter;
I loved the way Obito fought the battle, one of the most epic drawings with the blood dripping everywhere. Seems to me Naruto got a little bit darker over the years. First with the cold blooded kill of Danzo's subordinates, now this sick picture of bodies hanging in the tree and blood dripping everywhere. Got me to wonder if this will be shown in the anime as it was shown in the manga. Pretty hardcore, can't wait for the next chapter as usual.

For everyone that keeps complaining about how bad naruto has gotten. Maybe you should stop watching it? For me Naruto keeps getting better and better. I think the storyline is fricking awesome and everything that happened so far has had an explanation. Everything is constructed so well... I don't care about whether or not obito should be blind. My guess is probably not, since apart from this event and the mangekyo that he just showed Kakashi a few chapters ago, I don't think Obito has used his mangekyo much..
After all, he was able to 'slip' through the ground before the killing rocks fell on him(as Madara told the story). This was before he awakened mangekyo. Which means the slipping through dementions does not require mangekyo

As you see against Konan, he quickly ripped of part of his mask to use Izanagi with his other eye. Seems to me he doesn't want to do anything that hurts his eye. This because he needs this eye to be able to swap between dimensions.

On October 11 2012 22:25 wonnaplay wrote:
Kakashi was using it in the fight with Obito on a flying kunai... if that ain't a moving target then I don't know what is.

Back on latest chapter;
I loved the way Obito fought the battle, one of the most epic drawings with the blood dripping everywhere. Seems to me Naruto got a little bit darker over the years. First with the cold blooded kill of Danzo's subordinates, now this sick picture of bodies hanging in the tree and blood dripping everywhere. Got me to wonder if this will be shown in the anime as it was shown in the manga. Pretty hardcore, can't wait for the next chapter as usual.

For everyone that keeps complaining about how bad naruto has gotten. Maybe you should stop watching it? For me Naruto keeps getting better and better. I think the storyline is fricking awesome and everything that happened so far has had an explanation. Everything is constructed so well... I don't care about whether or not obito should be blind. My guess is probably not, since apart from this event and the mangekyo that he just showed Kakashi a few chapters ago, I don't think Obito has used his mangekyo much..
After all, he was able to 'slip' through the ground before the killing rocks fell on him(as Madara told the story). This was before he awakened mangekyo. Which means the slipping through dementions does not require mangekyo

As you see against Konan, he quickly ripped of part of his mask to use Izanagi with his other eye. Seems to me he doesn't want to do anything that hurts his eye. This because he needs this eye to be able to swap between dimensions.

so let me get this straight, kakashi was in fact the 3rd user to obtain mangekyou sharingan after madara and his brother. we move forward a good 5 to 10 years later which takes place in season 1, itachi appears in konoha and dismantles kakashi....how?

On October 12 2012 10:16 17Sphynx17 wrote:
The most logical reason I can think of as to why Obito isn't blind is because of Harashima's healing tecdhniques that don't need seals to execute. I would say the Harishima cells are preventing further damage to the sharingan even in Mangekyou form and even if the ability was overused. Basically, it restores the eye to its pristine condition.

That's my guess.

On October 11 2012 14:46 Forikorder wrote:

he can only use the jutsu on a target that is easy to track (like Diedara for instance who didnt swerve or change altitude at all) can only use it in a team fight because using it drains too much chakra from him and can only use it once (look at when he used it against Deidara, the first shot took an arm sure but after that it was easily dodged)

so when was the last time Kakashi fought an opponent who wasnt moving around alot, in a position where he had someone to cover his back and the opponent did not know about Kamui?

answer? never

he couldnt use it against Zabuza Zabuza was hiding and constantly moving 90% of the time
he couldnt use it against Pain he would ahve jsut pushed/pulled him to break concentration
he couldnt use it against Itachi because Kisame was there and the other 2 konoha guys couldnt really cover him he didnt have the liberty of creating such a huge opening

he only has been able to spam it so much this fight because Obito has been obsessed with catching Naruto so hasnt payed him any attention at all

On October 12 2012 10:16 17Sphynx17 wrote:
The most logical reason I can think of as to why Obito isn't blind is because of Harashima's healing tecdhniques that don't need seals to execute. I would say the Harishima cells are preventing further damage to the sharingan even in Mangekyou form and even if the ability was overused. Basically, it restores the eye to its pristine condition.

That's my guess.

I dont believe your guess is correct. If that was true what was the point of transferring itachi's eye into sasuke when he couldve just zetsu up sasuke?

Naruto is getting pathetic though. If this zetsu crap is so powerful why hasnt obito given it to sasuke so he could become super sayian? All this talk about Senju and Uchiha mixed DNA allowing people to have more power is getting retarded. If this was the point why didnt Obito or Madara go around banging Senju chicks and have super sayian babies and brainwash them to fight for the Uchiha?

On October 12 2012 12:36 Forikorder wrote:

how about that noone has gone blind from overrusing the mangekyou?

the only evidence that you can go blind is Madara lost his sight and took his brothers eyes, but it could take decades of use before you actually lose your vision and it could be Madaras sight was just starting to go before he grabbed his bros, could be you dont actually go blind from voerruse just your vision gets bad

On October 12 2012 14:19 Pseudoku wrote:


Itachi has lost some of his vision too. Kakashi even talks to Itachi about it.

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Naruto is getting pathetic though. If this zetsu crap is so powerful why hasnt obito given it to sasuke so he could become super sayian? All this talk about Senju and Uchiha mixed DNA allowing people to have more power is getting retarded. If this was the point why didnt Obito or Madara go around banging Senju chicks and have super sayian babies and brainwash them to fight for the Uchiha?

As for you don't really go blind using mangekyou, maybe or maybe not. The only instance we ever see Uchiha eyes bleeding is whenever Mangekyou is overused. As such, it "displays" a sense of great stress to the eyes (at least to me). So in effect, damage is being done whenever the Mangekyou ability is being used and not the regular Sharigan eye only (their shikai mode hehe!)

I think Itachi's experience shows how too much use of Mangekyo is really causing eventual blindness. He even limits the use of it to an as needed basis as far as I know unlike Sasuke who seemed to keep on activating it everytime thereafter seeing as Itachi's eye won't go blind from his repetitive use.

Again, my opinion only.

Senju blood has been shown to not present itself as prominently as the Uchiha and I think this has its reasons bourne out of their ties. Uchihas seem to partner with themselves (within the bloodline, not necessarily family) to preserve the Sharingan (same with the Byakugan families) so the bloodline more clearly present itself. This appears to be the exact opposite of how the Senju clan approached it. They didn't seem to preserve the bloodline by diluting it with other bloodlines/normals. As such, even the 5th Hokage's presentation of the bloodline limit appears to be different in how Harashima used his (similar but not the same). This shows how far diluted the bloodline already is and there is no real pure Senju anymore. The Uzumaki clan also seem to have the portion of the Senju bloodline through the showing of their chakra stamina but not presenting the healing abilities of the Senju, so again, only part of the bloodline's original set of abilities was kept in tact but never the whole expression of it.

On October 12 2012 14:28 17Sphynx17 wrote:



Well, I believe the answer would lie in what the Zetsu part told Obito when they got out. That Uchiha and Senju cells merging creates a new powerful being. As such, giving Sasuke Itachi's eyes, gives him access to Itachi's Sharigan powers at least, but it doesn't really put him on equal footing to the potential of Obito or more OP than him.

That is my guess.

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As for you don't really go blind using mangekyou, maybe or maybe not. The only instance we ever see Uchiha eyes bleeding is whenever Mangekyou is overused. As such, it "displays" a sense of great stress to the eyes (at least to me). So in effect, damage is being done whenever the Mangekyou ability is being used and not the regular Sharigan eye only (their shikai mode hehe!)

I think Itachi's experience shows how too much use of Mangekyo is really causing eventual blindness. He even limits the use of it to an as needed basis as far as I know unlike Sasuke who seemed to keep on activating it everytime thereafter seeing as Itachi's eye won't go blind from his repetitive use.

Again, my opinion only.

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Senju blood has been shown to not present itself as prominently as the Uchiha and I think this has its reasons bourne out of their ties. Uchihas seem to partner with themselves (within the bloodline, not necessarily family) to preserve the Sharingan (same with the Byakugan families) so the bloodline more clearly present itself. This appears to be the exact opposite of how the Senju clan approached it. They didn't seem to preserve the bloodline by diluting it with other bloodlines/normals. As such, even the 5th Hokage's presentation of the bloodline limit appears to be different in how Harashima used his (similar but not the same). This shows how far diluted the bloodline already is and there is no real pure Senju anymore. The Uzumaki clan also seem to have the portion of the Senju bloodline through the showing of their chakra stamina but not presenting the healing abilities of the Senju, so again, only part of the bloodline's original set of abilities was kept in tact but never the whole expression of it.

My two cents.

On October 12 2012 15:06 BreakerD wrote:

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/462/13
The chapter above tells us blood line is blood line no matter how thin it is. Meaning banging senju descendants can still produce senju blood line. Regarding implanting itachi's eye into sasuke, I was trying to point out what was the point of actually giving him itachi's eyes when he could've combined with zetsu and receive new powers. Didnt mean to give the impression of him being OP against obito. He couldve done this at the cave where sasuke woke up after fighting his bro. Its obvious now that Itachi didnt give sasuke his powers. Sasuke's eye went MS when he saw his best friend (aka Itachi) die.

Like someone said in earlier post. I wouldnt the two brother just exchange eye so they may have unlimited power?

On October 13 2012 15:44 BlackPaladin wrote:
Itachi could barely even see shapes during his fight with sasuke. They were all giant blurs to him.... And sasuke was beginning to get the same way until he got itachi's eyes transplanted. Kishi just still needs to explain why obito still hasn't lost his sight, although senju dna might play a part of it.

Also the banging senju chicks comment...madara literally hates all senju so much he even told tsunade he wanted to kill her first simply for being a senju. I don't think that banging them would be an option in his eyes lol. I think he preferred to simply use their dna to make the zetsu clones out of the need for senju dna albeit his extreme hatred of them. Basically it's the most distant way to integrate senju dna for his needs.