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Canada932 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-16 02:22:29
October 16 2012 02:20 GMT
#11701
On October 16 2012 11:14 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 11:07 jidolboy wrote:
On October 16 2012 11:04 Forikorder wrote:
On October 16 2012 10:33 jidolboy wrote:
On October 15 2012 13:23 Forikorder wrote:
On October 15 2012 13:15 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 15 2012 13:01 Forikorder wrote:
On October 15 2012 12:54 BlackPaladin wrote:
He probably didn't know he actually had MS when he was younger. I think only after meeting itachi before the timeskip did he learn of the MS's existance, and thus during the timeskip learned to use it. He had 2 years to train himself to use it. And only 3 uses put him out of commission for a week back then. Remember when they kidnapped gaara, then kakashi and naruto fought pain's itachi clone? When kakashi met itachi pre time skip he didn't even know of tsukynomi or anything about the MS, but when he fought the itachi clone he asked about how blind itachi now is. That to me is proof that he was training with the MS since then and learned your eyesight weakens with its use. So kakashi getting his eye when he was younger doesn't seem so farfetched now that i think about it.

Although the whole obito thing still doesn't make sense. I really hope he explains why obito's eyesight seems fine even with his extensive use, and also how he phased through the rocks when he still didn't have his MS. He always seems to only have his normal sharingan active when he phases, so it seems strange. Nornal sharingan as far as we know don't have special techniques - those have only been unlocked once you activate your MS. :/

if i had to guess at some point Kakashi probably found the hidden tablets the Uchiha hid, he certainly had the skill and reason to pull it off so he found it and read it with his sharingan and then (assuming he didnt already know) learned about the Mangekyou Sharingan and realised killing Rin might have unlocked his so tryed it and it worked

of course for Obito its possible he is blind in the right eye, just because hes blind doesnt mean he loses his powers the eyes gives and he still has his perfectly good left eye to see with

its also possible that his technique isnt very harmful to his eyes unlike Itachis techniques and by being careful when he uses it hed be fine he might also know other S/T jutsu (like the one he uses to absorb people and the one he uses to teleport) that are not connected to his eye (though he might use it as a focus like how the 4th used the seal on his Kunai as a focus for all his jutsus)

in short there is absolutely nothing wrong about Obitos eyes, even if his right eye is blind his left eye still works and its highly likely he hasnt used his right eye enough to go blind



The biggest thing I have a problem with in you explanation is that Obito might actually be blind in his right eye but his left eye is fine. If thats the case how does Tobi see at all the entire time he was active in the akatski, his mask only had 1 hole big enough for his right eye to see out of. Is his mask somehow see through for his left eye so he's not walking around blind? Does his left eye see through solid objects? There is no way he was using his left eye to see because his right eye was blind if he was wearing that mask.

It's like wearing a eye patch over your only good eye and still walking around and fighting at 100% like theres no eyepatch at all :/

edit: side thought, maybe his 2 eyes has linked vision somehow since he obtained the rinengan, so he was using his left eye to look through his right eye? idk

Naruto has a giant fox in his tummy that shoots outs nukes and you find it impossible that Tobi had a trick mask?
step one: make mask with 2 eye holes
step two: cast illusion to make it look like one hole
step three: ?????
step four: make dream world

also its extremely likely that he still has sight in his right eye, Itachi didnt have his MS for much longer then Obito did and could still see Tobi had the advantage of having Madara who might know secrets of slowing down the decay, he could have stolen a family members Sharingan and made EMS or maybe he had a Zetsu act as eyes for him like the spiral one hes currently wearing

there are an infinite amount of ways Obito could be blind as a bad and still see perfectly fine, hell Gaara has been using a jutsu since he was introduced where he creates an eye out of sand, maybe his mask has the same sort of jutsu on it


No that mask was one hole only. Which was located where his MS was
There was no reason for him to break the other part when he wanted to cast izanagi if he could see through the mask.
-_-

he didnt break it the 10 billion bombs did


Actually. He tore off the mask himself. Go to chap 510. Only right side was broken. He himself broke left side ( see the hand )

if he broke it because he needed to get access to his eye he would ahve jsut taken it off or broke it even more it looks to me like he wouldnt be able to see straight and we can only see his other eye because of the angle im willing to bet the only reason it was broken was so that we could watch the eye close

and its still unlikely he lost sight in his right eye, and there are still tons of ways for him to be able to still see, hell the mask could even have been made from wood techniques designed to let him see through it


or have you ever thought that mask had no hole in the first place that's why he needed to break the mask in order to see?I agree though he probably didnt lose sight in his right eye not because there was a another 'hole' lol. Probably due to zetsu cell or something
Edit: Go watch the anime if you want confirmation of him breaking the mask lol. Anime has a lot of more minor details compare to manga
"What's the f*cking point of censoring a letter if everyone and their mother knows what it stands for.... F*cking morons"
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
October 16 2012 02:24 GMT
#11702
On October 16 2012 11:20 jidolboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 11:14 Forikorder wrote:
On October 16 2012 11:07 jidolboy wrote:
On October 16 2012 11:04 Forikorder wrote:
On October 16 2012 10:33 jidolboy wrote:
On October 15 2012 13:23 Forikorder wrote:
On October 15 2012 13:15 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 15 2012 13:01 Forikorder wrote:
On October 15 2012 12:54 BlackPaladin wrote:
He probably didn't know he actually had MS when he was younger. I think only after meeting itachi before the timeskip did he learn of the MS's existance, and thus during the timeskip learned to use it. He had 2 years to train himself to use it. And only 3 uses put him out of commission for a week back then. Remember when they kidnapped gaara, then kakashi and naruto fought pain's itachi clone? When kakashi met itachi pre time skip he didn't even know of tsukynomi or anything about the MS, but when he fought the itachi clone he asked about how blind itachi now is. That to me is proof that he was training with the MS since then and learned your eyesight weakens with its use. So kakashi getting his eye when he was younger doesn't seem so farfetched now that i think about it.

Although the whole obito thing still doesn't make sense. I really hope he explains why obito's eyesight seems fine even with his extensive use, and also how he phased through the rocks when he still didn't have his MS. He always seems to only have his normal sharingan active when he phases, so it seems strange. Nornal sharingan as far as we know don't have special techniques - those have only been unlocked once you activate your MS. :/

if i had to guess at some point Kakashi probably found the hidden tablets the Uchiha hid, he certainly had the skill and reason to pull it off so he found it and read it with his sharingan and then (assuming he didnt already know) learned about the Mangekyou Sharingan and realised killing Rin might have unlocked his so tryed it and it worked

of course for Obito its possible he is blind in the right eye, just because hes blind doesnt mean he loses his powers the eyes gives and he still has his perfectly good left eye to see with

its also possible that his technique isnt very harmful to his eyes unlike Itachis techniques and by being careful when he uses it hed be fine he might also know other S/T jutsu (like the one he uses to absorb people and the one he uses to teleport) that are not connected to his eye (though he might use it as a focus like how the 4th used the seal on his Kunai as a focus for all his jutsus)

in short there is absolutely nothing wrong about Obitos eyes, even if his right eye is blind his left eye still works and its highly likely he hasnt used his right eye enough to go blind



The biggest thing I have a problem with in you explanation is that Obito might actually be blind in his right eye but his left eye is fine. If thats the case how does Tobi see at all the entire time he was active in the akatski, his mask only had 1 hole big enough for his right eye to see out of. Is his mask somehow see through for his left eye so he's not walking around blind? Does his left eye see through solid objects? There is no way he was using his left eye to see because his right eye was blind if he was wearing that mask.

It's like wearing a eye patch over your only good eye and still walking around and fighting at 100% like theres no eyepatch at all :/

edit: side thought, maybe his 2 eyes has linked vision somehow since he obtained the rinengan, so he was using his left eye to look through his right eye? idk

Naruto has a giant fox in his tummy that shoots outs nukes and you find it impossible that Tobi had a trick mask?
step one: make mask with 2 eye holes
step two: cast illusion to make it look like one hole
step three: ?????
step four: make dream world

also its extremely likely that he still has sight in his right eye, Itachi didnt have his MS for much longer then Obito did and could still see Tobi had the advantage of having Madara who might know secrets of slowing down the decay, he could have stolen a family members Sharingan and made EMS or maybe he had a Zetsu act as eyes for him like the spiral one hes currently wearing

there are an infinite amount of ways Obito could be blind as a bad and still see perfectly fine, hell Gaara has been using a jutsu since he was introduced where he creates an eye out of sand, maybe his mask has the same sort of jutsu on it


No that mask was one hole only. Which was located where his MS was
There was no reason for him to break the other part when he wanted to cast izanagi if he could see through the mask.
-_-

he didnt break it the 10 billion bombs did


Actually. He tore off the mask himself. Go to chap 510. Only right side was broken. He himself broke left side ( see the hand )

if he broke it because he needed to get access to his eye he would ahve jsut taken it off or broke it even more it looks to me like he wouldnt be able to see straight and we can only see his other eye because of the angle im willing to bet the only reason it was broken was so that we could watch the eye close

and its still unlikely he lost sight in his right eye, and there are still tons of ways for him to be able to still see, hell the mask could even have been made from wood techniques designed to let him see through it


or have you ever thought that mask had no hole in the first place that's why he needed to break the mask in order to see?I agree though he probably didnt lose sight in his right eye not because there was a another 'hole' lol. Probably due to zetsu cell or something
Edit: Go watch the anime if you want confirmation of him breaking the mask lol. Anime has a lot of more minor details compare to manga

you realise there being a secret hole was just one possible theory of why he could see and i in no way said at all in any way he definently had a second hole?

in fact ive always said that i didnt even think he should be blind in his right eye so there wasnt any need to set up a trick to see with his left since his right was still fine?
Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
October 16 2012 02:28 GMT
#11703
On October 16 2012 11:20 jidolboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 11:14 Forikorder wrote:
On October 16 2012 11:07 jidolboy wrote:
On October 16 2012 11:04 Forikorder wrote:
On October 16 2012 10:33 jidolboy wrote:
On October 15 2012 13:23 Forikorder wrote:
On October 15 2012 13:15 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 15 2012 13:01 Forikorder wrote:
On October 15 2012 12:54 BlackPaladin wrote:
He probably didn't know he actually had MS when he was younger. I think only after meeting itachi before the timeskip did he learn of the MS's existance, and thus during the timeskip learned to use it. He had 2 years to train himself to use it. And only 3 uses put him out of commission for a week back then. Remember when they kidnapped gaara, then kakashi and naruto fought pain's itachi clone? When kakashi met itachi pre time skip he didn't even know of tsukynomi or anything about the MS, but when he fought the itachi clone he asked about how blind itachi now is. That to me is proof that he was training with the MS since then and learned your eyesight weakens with its use. So kakashi getting his eye when he was younger doesn't seem so farfetched now that i think about it.

Although the whole obito thing still doesn't make sense. I really hope he explains why obito's eyesight seems fine even with his extensive use, and also how he phased through the rocks when he still didn't have his MS. He always seems to only have his normal sharingan active when he phases, so it seems strange. Nornal sharingan as far as we know don't have special techniques - those have only been unlocked once you activate your MS. :/

if i had to guess at some point Kakashi probably found the hidden tablets the Uchiha hid, he certainly had the skill and reason to pull it off so he found it and read it with his sharingan and then (assuming he didnt already know) learned about the Mangekyou Sharingan and realised killing Rin might have unlocked his so tryed it and it worked

of course for Obito its possible he is blind in the right eye, just because hes blind doesnt mean he loses his powers the eyes gives and he still has his perfectly good left eye to see with

its also possible that his technique isnt very harmful to his eyes unlike Itachis techniques and by being careful when he uses it hed be fine he might also know other S/T jutsu (like the one he uses to absorb people and the one he uses to teleport) that are not connected to his eye (though he might use it as a focus like how the 4th used the seal on his Kunai as a focus for all his jutsus)

in short there is absolutely nothing wrong about Obitos eyes, even if his right eye is blind his left eye still works and its highly likely he hasnt used his right eye enough to go blind



The biggest thing I have a problem with in you explanation is that Obito might actually be blind in his right eye but his left eye is fine. If thats the case how does Tobi see at all the entire time he was active in the akatski, his mask only had 1 hole big enough for his right eye to see out of. Is his mask somehow see through for his left eye so he's not walking around blind? Does his left eye see through solid objects? There is no way he was using his left eye to see because his right eye was blind if he was wearing that mask.

It's like wearing a eye patch over your only good eye and still walking around and fighting at 100% like theres no eyepatch at all :/

edit: side thought, maybe his 2 eyes has linked vision somehow since he obtained the rinengan, so he was using his left eye to look through his right eye? idk

Naruto has a giant fox in his tummy that shoots outs nukes and you find it impossible that Tobi had a trick mask?
step one: make mask with 2 eye holes
step two: cast illusion to make it look like one hole
step three: ?????
step four: make dream world

also its extremely likely that he still has sight in his right eye, Itachi didnt have his MS for much longer then Obito did and could still see Tobi had the advantage of having Madara who might know secrets of slowing down the decay, he could have stolen a family members Sharingan and made EMS or maybe he had a Zetsu act as eyes for him like the spiral one hes currently wearing

there are an infinite amount of ways Obito could be blind as a bad and still see perfectly fine, hell Gaara has been using a jutsu since he was introduced where he creates an eye out of sand, maybe his mask has the same sort of jutsu on it


No that mask was one hole only. Which was located where his MS was
There was no reason for him to break the other part when he wanted to cast izanagi if he could see through the mask.
-_-

he didnt break it the 10 billion bombs did


Actually. He tore off the mask himself. Go to chap 510. Only right side was broken. He himself broke left side ( see the hand )

if he broke it because he needed to get access to his eye he would ahve jsut taken it off or broke it even more it looks to me like he wouldnt be able to see straight and we can only see his other eye because of the angle im willing to bet the only reason it was broken was so that we could watch the eye close

and its still unlikely he lost sight in his right eye, and there are still tons of ways for him to be able to still see, hell the mask could even have been made from wood techniques designed to let him see through it


or have you ever thought that mask had no hole in the first place that's why he needed to break the mask in order to see?I agree though he probably didnt lose sight in his right eye not because there was a another 'hole' lol. Probably due to zetsu cell or something
Edit: Go watch the anime if you want confirmation of him breaking the mask lol. Anime has a lot of more minor details compare to manga


Sharingan like byakugan can see chakra and shit. He can see through the mask. Thats how Obito beat that invisible guy when he first awakened his sharingan.
meow
sour_eraser
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada932 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-16 02:39:19
October 16 2012 02:37 GMT
#11704
On October 16 2012 11:24 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 11:20 jidolboy wrote:
On October 16 2012 11:14 Forikorder wrote:
On October 16 2012 11:07 jidolboy wrote:
On October 16 2012 11:04 Forikorder wrote:
On October 16 2012 10:33 jidolboy wrote:
On October 15 2012 13:23 Forikorder wrote:
On October 15 2012 13:15 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 15 2012 13:01 Forikorder wrote:
On October 15 2012 12:54 BlackPaladin wrote:
He probably didn't know he actually had MS when he was younger. I think only after meeting itachi before the timeskip did he learn of the MS's existance, and thus during the timeskip learned to use it. He had 2 years to train himself to use it. And only 3 uses put him out of commission for a week back then. Remember when they kidnapped gaara, then kakashi and naruto fought pain's itachi clone? When kakashi met itachi pre time skip he didn't even know of tsukynomi or anything about the MS, but when he fought the itachi clone he asked about how blind itachi now is. That to me is proof that he was training with the MS since then and learned your eyesight weakens with its use. So kakashi getting his eye when he was younger doesn't seem so farfetched now that i think about it.

Although the whole obito thing still doesn't make sense. I really hope he explains why obito's eyesight seems fine even with his extensive use, and also how he phased through the rocks when he still didn't have his MS. He always seems to only have his normal sharingan active when he phases, so it seems strange. Nornal sharingan as far as we know don't have special techniques - those have only been unlocked once you activate your MS. :/

if i had to guess at some point Kakashi probably found the hidden tablets the Uchiha hid, he certainly had the skill and reason to pull it off so he found it and read it with his sharingan and then (assuming he didnt already know) learned about the Mangekyou Sharingan and realised killing Rin might have unlocked his so tryed it and it worked

of course for Obito its possible he is blind in the right eye, just because hes blind doesnt mean he loses his powers the eyes gives and he still has his perfectly good left eye to see with

its also possible that his technique isnt very harmful to his eyes unlike Itachis techniques and by being careful when he uses it hed be fine he might also know other S/T jutsu (like the one he uses to absorb people and the one he uses to teleport) that are not connected to his eye (though he might use it as a focus like how the 4th used the seal on his Kunai as a focus for all his jutsus)

in short there is absolutely nothing wrong about Obitos eyes, even if his right eye is blind his left eye still works and its highly likely he hasnt used his right eye enough to go blind



The biggest thing I have a problem with in you explanation is that Obito might actually be blind in his right eye but his left eye is fine. If thats the case how does Tobi see at all the entire time he was active in the akatski, his mask only had 1 hole big enough for his right eye to see out of. Is his mask somehow see through for his left eye so he's not walking around blind? Does his left eye see through solid objects? There is no way he was using his left eye to see because his right eye was blind if he was wearing that mask.

It's like wearing a eye patch over your only good eye and still walking around and fighting at 100% like theres no eyepatch at all :/

edit: side thought, maybe his 2 eyes has linked vision somehow since he obtained the rinengan, so he was using his left eye to look through his right eye? idk

Naruto has a giant fox in his tummy that shoots outs nukes and you find it impossible that Tobi had a trick mask?
step one: make mask with 2 eye holes
step two: cast illusion to make it look like one hole
step three: ?????
step four: make dream world

also its extremely likely that he still has sight in his right eye, Itachi didnt have his MS for much longer then Obito did and could still see Tobi had the advantage of having Madara who might know secrets of slowing down the decay, he could have stolen a family members Sharingan and made EMS or maybe he had a Zetsu act as eyes for him like the spiral one hes currently wearing

there are an infinite amount of ways Obito could be blind as a bad and still see perfectly fine, hell Gaara has been using a jutsu since he was introduced where he creates an eye out of sand, maybe his mask has the same sort of jutsu on it


No that mask was one hole only. Which was located where his MS was
There was no reason for him to break the other part when he wanted to cast izanagi if he could see through the mask.
-_-

he didnt break it the 10 billion bombs did


Actually. He tore off the mask himself. Go to chap 510. Only right side was broken. He himself broke left side ( see the hand )

if he broke it because he needed to get access to his eye he would ahve jsut taken it off or broke it even more it looks to me like he wouldnt be able to see straight and we can only see his other eye because of the angle im willing to bet the only reason it was broken was so that we could watch the eye close

and its still unlikely he lost sight in his right eye, and there are still tons of ways for him to be able to still see, hell the mask could even have been made from wood techniques designed to let him see through it


or have you ever thought that mask had no hole in the first place that's why he needed to break the mask in order to see?I agree though he probably didnt lose sight in his right eye not because there was a another 'hole' lol. Probably due to zetsu cell or something
Edit: Go watch the anime if you want confirmation of him breaking the mask lol. Anime has a lot of more minor details compare to manga

you realise there being a secret hole was just one possible theory of why he could see and i in no way said at all in any way he definently had a second hole?

in fact ive always said that i didnt even think he should be blind in his right eye so there wasnt any need to set up a trick to see with his left since his right was still fine?


And I in no way said I was definiately right either. I was just telling you what had happend and my theory disapproving your theory of second hole mentioned.

o_O I agree with the second part and I thought I wrote as a reponse. I too think he is not blind on his right eye.
But all I disagreed was that second hole was not possible.

@Probe
When I wrote see. I meant see to activate Izanagi. Danzo and Obito had to get a vision of the surroundings I think to actuvate that jutsu. Otherwise there was no point of Danzo taking his arm out or Tobi breaking his mask if they could cast it without good look at outside world
"What's the f*cking point of censoring a letter if everyone and their mother knows what it stands for.... F*cking morons"
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
October 16 2012 03:47 GMT
#11705
On October 16 2012 11:37 jidolboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 11:24 Forikorder wrote:
On October 16 2012 11:20 jidolboy wrote:
On October 16 2012 11:14 Forikorder wrote:
On October 16 2012 11:07 jidolboy wrote:
On October 16 2012 11:04 Forikorder wrote:
On October 16 2012 10:33 jidolboy wrote:
On October 15 2012 13:23 Forikorder wrote:
On October 15 2012 13:15 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 15 2012 13:01 Forikorder wrote:
[quote]
if i had to guess at some point Kakashi probably found the hidden tablets the Uchiha hid, he certainly had the skill and reason to pull it off so he found it and read it with his sharingan and then (assuming he didnt already know) learned about the Mangekyou Sharingan and realised killing Rin might have unlocked his so tryed it and it worked

of course for Obito its possible he is blind in the right eye, just because hes blind doesnt mean he loses his powers the eyes gives and he still has his perfectly good left eye to see with

its also possible that his technique isnt very harmful to his eyes unlike Itachis techniques and by being careful when he uses it hed be fine he might also know other S/T jutsu (like the one he uses to absorb people and the one he uses to teleport) that are not connected to his eye (though he might use it as a focus like how the 4th used the seal on his Kunai as a focus for all his jutsus)

in short there is absolutely nothing wrong about Obitos eyes, even if his right eye is blind his left eye still works and its highly likely he hasnt used his right eye enough to go blind



The biggest thing I have a problem with in you explanation is that Obito might actually be blind in his right eye but his left eye is fine. If thats the case how does Tobi see at all the entire time he was active in the akatski, his mask only had 1 hole big enough for his right eye to see out of. Is his mask somehow see through for his left eye so he's not walking around blind? Does his left eye see through solid objects? There is no way he was using his left eye to see because his right eye was blind if he was wearing that mask.

It's like wearing a eye patch over your only good eye and still walking around and fighting at 100% like theres no eyepatch at all :/

edit: side thought, maybe his 2 eyes has linked vision somehow since he obtained the rinengan, so he was using his left eye to look through his right eye? idk

Naruto has a giant fox in his tummy that shoots outs nukes and you find it impossible that Tobi had a trick mask?
step one: make mask with 2 eye holes
step two: cast illusion to make it look like one hole
step three: ?????
step four: make dream world

also its extremely likely that he still has sight in his right eye, Itachi didnt have his MS for much longer then Obito did and could still see Tobi had the advantage of having Madara who might know secrets of slowing down the decay, he could have stolen a family members Sharingan and made EMS or maybe he had a Zetsu act as eyes for him like the spiral one hes currently wearing

there are an infinite amount of ways Obito could be blind as a bad and still see perfectly fine, hell Gaara has been using a jutsu since he was introduced where he creates an eye out of sand, maybe his mask has the same sort of jutsu on it


No that mask was one hole only. Which was located where his MS was
There was no reason for him to break the other part when he wanted to cast izanagi if he could see through the mask.
-_-

he didnt break it the 10 billion bombs did


Actually. He tore off the mask himself. Go to chap 510. Only right side was broken. He himself broke left side ( see the hand )

if he broke it because he needed to get access to his eye he would ahve jsut taken it off or broke it even more it looks to me like he wouldnt be able to see straight and we can only see his other eye because of the angle im willing to bet the only reason it was broken was so that we could watch the eye close

and its still unlikely he lost sight in his right eye, and there are still tons of ways for him to be able to still see, hell the mask could even have been made from wood techniques designed to let him see through it


or have you ever thought that mask had no hole in the first place that's why he needed to break the mask in order to see?I agree though he probably didnt lose sight in his right eye not because there was a another 'hole' lol. Probably due to zetsu cell or something
Edit: Go watch the anime if you want confirmation of him breaking the mask lol. Anime has a lot of more minor details compare to manga

you realise there being a secret hole was just one possible theory of why he could see and i in no way said at all in any way he definently had a second hole?

in fact ive always said that i didnt even think he should be blind in his right eye so there wasnt any need to set up a trick to see with his left since his right was still fine?


And I in no way said I was definiately right either. I was just telling you what had happend and my theory disapproving your theory of second hole mentioned.

o_O I agree with the second part and I thought I wrote as a reponse. I too think he is not blind on his right eye.
But all I disagreed was that second hole was not possible.

@Probe
When I wrote see. I meant see to activate Izanagi. Danzo and Obito had to get a vision of the surroundings I think to actuvate that jutsu. Otherwise there was no point of Danzo taking his arm out or Tobi breaking his mask if they could cast it without good look at outside world

Danzo kept his arm sealed because A) people would FREAK if they saw it B) having so many Sharingan active all the time would kill him C) he couldnt control Hashiramas cells so needed a way to keep them under control

does not mean the eye has to be able to see what your Izanagi'ing away from Danzos not Uchiha so he cant have his sharingan enjoying the breeze same reason Kakashi has the blind fold
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
October 16 2012 10:42 GMT
#11706
This thread has been turned into grasping at straws to justify anything that happens in naruto.
I´m surprised there hasn´t been a theory that a deity or aliens enabled any of the problems to be solved. As of yet.

A Deus Ex Machina is a cop out technique for shitty authors. You inventing said Deus Ex Machinas for the author is just sad, especially if there is an actual chance that Kishi might explain this in a reasonable way.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
October 17 2012 04:19 GMT
#11707
On October 16 2012 19:42 Mataza wrote:
This thread has been turned into grasping at straws to justify anything that happens in naruto.
I´m surprised there hasn´t been a theory that a deity or aliens enabled any of the problems to be solved. As of yet.

A Deus Ex Machina is a cop out technique for shitty authors. You inventing said Deus Ex Machinas for the author is just sad, especially if there is an actual chance that Kishi might explain this in a reasonable way.

were not grasping at straws to defend it people are making up reasons Naruto is bad and thene xpect us to defend it
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 17 2012 07:32 GMT
#11708
http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/606
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12842 Posts
October 17 2012 07:46 GMT
#11709
well it looks like we are back to present soon
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
October 17 2012 08:02 GMT
#11710
--- Nuked ---
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
October 17 2012 08:14 GMT
#11711
+ Show Spoiler +
How did his fingers pass right through Rin's neck?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
October 17 2012 08:33 GMT
#11712
On October 17 2012 16:46 ETisME wrote:
well it looks like we are back to present soon

there's got to be another flashback once this is over, a shorter one explaining what happened the moment rin died I guess.
Even from the last chapter we knew that Obito came a bit late and only saw the end of what happened but he doesn't know why it happened.
Pretty sure there's going to be some kind of heartwarming story from Kakashi about that and how Obito got on the wrong path due to the lack of information (imo).
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 08:36:31
October 17 2012 08:35 GMT
#11713
So Nagato is both a Senju and an Uzumaki?
That is some sick heritage.

And as expected,Madara mind-fucked Obito into his bitch.
http://mangafox.me/manga/naruto/v63/c606/9.html
This is so Sasuke-esque like.

I thought Obito had a better reason but seems like love is blind to him.
So Are you telling me that all of this happened
(Uchiha Genocide,Released of the Nine-tail Demon Fox, Controlling 4th Mizukage for the Bloody Mist,)

because of Obito love for Rin?
Silly Obito thinking a dream world can bring back his beloved Rin.
Sorry kid but Madara was just brainwashing you.

Utterly ridiculous IMO.
Play your best
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
October 17 2012 08:39 GMT
#11714
Uchihas are so, so emo.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Zole999
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden20 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 08:48:48
October 17 2012 08:48 GMT
#11715
So Kakashi was lying there, alive. Obito couldn't just have waited for him to wake up and get an explanation instead of jumping onto changing the world kinda thing? Maybe there was a good reason why Kakshi acted like he did. Ah well I guess logic doesn't make sense anyway.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
October 17 2012 08:49 GMT
#11716
On October 17 2012 17:39 flamewheel wrote:
Uchihas are so, so emo.

well duh.

Itachi is part of Uchiha.
Itachi cut (pretty much) every single Uchiha down there was.
=> Uchiha cuts (down) Uchiha

You're not going to have more emo than that even if you ignore the general emo-esque behavior :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18728 Posts
October 17 2012 08:52 GMT
#11717
So I always thought Uchihas were sick people, but I could count on Obito to show me that not all are crazy and insane.

Thank you Kishi for showing me the truth lol
multiversed
Profile Joined December 2010
United States233 Posts
October 17 2012 08:54 GMT
#11718
i hope everyone in this manga kills themselves.
Team Liquid is the used the tampon of the starcraft community.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 17 2012 09:17 GMT
#11719
On October 17 2012 17:14 acker wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
How did his fingers pass right through Rin's neck?


space time jutsu was active

On October 17 2012 17:35 FakeDeath wrote:
So Nagato is both a Senju and an Uzumaki?
That is some sick heritage.

And as expected,Madara mind-fucked Obito into his bitch.
http://mangafox.me/manga/naruto/v63/c606/9.html
This is so Sasuke-esque like.

I thought Obito had a better reason but seems like love is blind to him.
So Are you telling me that all of this happened
(Uchiha Genocide,Released of the Nine-tail Demon Fox, Controlling 4th Mizukage for the Bloody Mist,)

because of Obito love for Rin?
Silly Obito thinking a dream world can bring back his beloved Rin.
Sorry kid but Madara was just brainwashing you.

Utterly ridiculous IMO.


uzumaki is a branch of the senju lineage, naruto is uzumaki/senju too
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
October 17 2012 09:25 GMT
#11720
Naruto will end up with Rinnegan as well.

Also Bee has 2xSharingan underneath his glasses that he never takes off
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