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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If a chapter or an episode has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has been released or a chapter/episode that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread without spoilers. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
May 21 2017 12:29 GMT
#1221
On May 21 2017 20:01 sashkata wrote:
Hopefully the Freiza thing is just a gag. I really don't want to see him back and it would be really stupid too. You think he won't sell you out the first chance he gets?

I hope Buu wakes up, but if he doesn't I think they are going to give the spot to Yamcha. The joke has just gone too far. I am starting to feel bad for him.

But Yamcha is even more useless than Tien. And Tien is already completely useless.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
May 21 2017 13:39 GMT
#1222
Please no yamcha hes been one of the most useless characters since the start of dbz, the pinnacle of his uselessness was shown when they trained non-stop for like a whole year in prep of the androids and he died in like 2 seconds to the first one they saw.
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
May 21 2017 15:05 GMT
#1223
This boner some people have for making old shitty characters relevant makes no fucking sense. It disagrees with 1000 components of the story. Tien is trash tier and Yamcha doesn't even have a tier he's so fucking low at this point. Let the characters fade.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
May 21 2017 15:36 GMT
#1224
Tien had his shine in the Cell Saga. That was it. And it was impressive. But I agree. Some characters should just fade into obscurity and be replaced. I'd rather see more Hit, Cabba, and Kale than Tien, 18, 17, Roshi, or Yamcha
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
May 21 2017 15:43 GMT
#1225
Can we discuss Roshi? Out of all characters that need to fade, he is #1 far and away. The whole "lol sexual assault" thing has not aged well and needs to end.

For anyone who is more into Japanese culture than I am, is this where we are seeing cultural divergence? It is not only poorly done and unfunny, it is also weird and inappropriate. The stuff Roshi is doing is downright sexual assault. Its not him falling in love with girls or being generally pervy, he's touching and chasing.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
May 21 2017 15:47 GMT
#1226
I don't mind the androids since they are actually strong and not nearly as over used as some of the characters who have been around since Dragon Ball. Like Yamcha is really bad, horrible character at this point.
Never Knows Best.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
May 21 2017 17:01 GMT
#1227
Roshi, I'm afraid is just a relic of Toriyama's addiction to his long-running fondness for gag comics. It was the biggest thing I didn't like about DB and I'm afraid it surfaces now and again.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-21 17:31:56
May 21 2017 17:28 GMT
#1228
New chapter of Dragon Ball Super manga, pretty interesting

Blue forms have pretty different meaning in the Manga and Anime.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
May 21 2017 17:32 GMT
#1229
I think Yamcha is the "comedic relief." Like, we all need that one character to rail against no matter what and he can be used at certain times. But he's just lingering. Like, come on. Give it up. The best part was the baseball tournament.

Roshi does need to get his shit together. He's 150+ years old. Even Jiraiya knew where to draw the line between being enticed by young flesh and going out of his way to assault them. Besides, he did his perviness for the sake of his book.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
May 21 2017 17:35 GMT
#1230
For those curious, manga stream has all Dragonball Super manga chapters, it's 24 chapters, and Frieza arc is skiped. It's a fast and interesting read.
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
May 21 2017 17:54 GMT
#1231
Just caught up with the manga. Didn't they perfect this in the dimension Whis sent them to? And in the manga, Vegeta switched between red and blue to make it lasts longer. But this has to be after he did Kaioken at the tournament with Hit, right? Damn the manga and anime are too off -_-;
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
May 21 2017 18:17 GMT
#1232
Hmm. Well this manga is certainly taking a significantly different direction to this arc than the anime. I kind of like it, actually.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-21 18:20:08
May 21 2017 18:17 GMT
#1233
On May 22 2017 02:54 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Just caught up with the manga. Didn't they perfect this in the dimension Whis sent them to? And in the manga, Vegeta switched between red and blue to make it lasts longer. But this has to be after he did Kaioken at the tournament with Hit, right? Damn the manga and anime are too off -_-;

Well, there is no God Kaioken in the manga. Just both of them working to perfect their form. Vegeta arrives at this constant switch between God and Blue being the best way to go about it after training in the time chamber to take on Zamasu.

Essentially, that God/Blue switch is kinda how Goku deals with Hit in the manga. Goku perfecting Blue is now what puts him ahead of Vegeta (unlike the anime where it's Kaioken spam). Also in the manga, the reason Vegeta got trashed by Hit was the fact that Blue drains too much energy. He transformed to show Cabba the form, and from that and the previous fights, he was so done he could only bring out 10% of his full power against Hit even with Blue.

So far the manga is definitely doing better. But there's still room to mess it up. And I guess they kinda need to get themselves a 2nd Zen-oh too.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
May 21 2017 18:23 GMT
#1234
Okay. That makes sense. I'm hoping they don't get another Zen-oh and just keep it to one. And then figure out a way to deal with Zamasu. The manga is looking to be the one saving grace. Maybe DBS-Kai can redeem it, but I'm not going to hold my breath. Can't wait for the TFS series of Super.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
May 21 2017 19:13 GMT
#1235
Also just re-read the manga, Trunks healing powers were hinted in previous chapters
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
May 21 2017 23:34 GMT
#1236
I've never read manga and starting with super sounds like fun. Anyone mind giving me a quick run down?
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 22 2017 00:23 GMT
#1237
On May 21 2017 21:05 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
I read a spoiler that Baba brings Frieza back. Though I don't know much about Roshi's sister or her abilities.


Yeah Baba did that in the buu saga by bringing Goku back for 24 hours. It would be the same with Freeza. Kind of interesting but also silly as I don't see Freeza ever fighting as a team...
When I think of something else, something will go here
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
May 22 2017 00:32 GMT
#1238
On May 22 2017 08:34 Mohdoo wrote:
I've never read manga and starting with super sounds like fun. Anyone mind giving me a quick run down?

Read from right to left and downward. That's just about it.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
May 22 2017 02:38 GMT
#1239
On May 22 2017 03:17 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2017 02:54 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Just caught up with the manga. Didn't they perfect this in the dimension Whis sent them to? And in the manga, Vegeta switched between red and blue to make it lasts longer. But this has to be after he did Kaioken at the tournament with Hit, right? Damn the manga and anime are too off -_-;

Well, there is no God Kaioken in the manga. Just both of them working to perfect their form. Vegeta arrives at this constant switch between God and Blue being the best way to go about it after training in the time chamber to take on Zamasu.

Essentially, that God/Blue switch is kinda how Goku deals with Hit in the manga. Goku perfecting Blue is now what puts him ahead of Vegeta (unlike the anime where it's Kaioken spam). Also in the manga, the reason Vegeta got trashed by Hit was the fact that Blue drains too much energy. He transformed to show Cabba the form, and from that and the previous fights, he was so done he could only bring out 10% of his full power against Hit even with Blue.

So far the manga is definitely doing better. But there's still room to mess it up. And I guess they kinda need to get themselves a 2nd Zen-oh too.

2nd Zen-oh seems to be a future plot, with the future one currently messing up all the hand signs, something is wrong with that one.
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
May 22 2017 03:43 GMT
#1240
The DBS manga is significantly more coherent than the anime with regards to this zamasu fight
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