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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On April 29 2017 08:02 MoneyHypeMike wrote: So I'm re-watching the Buu saga and wondering... why didn't Beerus kill him the first time (Babidi time) or even the second time (Bibidi time). Am I trying to be too logic here? Was napping and they had the Elder Kai contingency. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5711 Posts
On April 29 2017 08:10 LegalLord wrote: Was napping and they had the Elder Kai contingency. Aka not doing his job and another reason why our universe has a shitty power level outside some orphaned Saiyans. | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
On April 29 2017 10:57 Zooper31 wrote: Aka not doing his job and another reason why our universe has a shitty power level outside some orphaned Saiyans. but if buu kills everyone in the universe, that mortal being average (which includes him) would have been preettty damn high  | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
On April 29 2017 12:48 LegalLord wrote: Buu targeted all above-average power levels he could find for destruction. By definition he pushed down the average. im pretty sure he wouldnt give up after killing vegeta and goku, and just move on to blowing up worlds and killing everyone for the fun of it. I was just joking that if he did end up killing everyone, then the average is only his power lvl. | ||
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Quateras
Germany867 Posts
On April 29 2017 08:02 MoneyHypeMike wrote: So I'm re-watching the Buu saga and wondering... why didn't Beerus kill him the first time (Babidi time) or even the second time (Bibidi time). Am I trying to be too logic here? Because Beerus didnt exist at the time in the manga. They simply retconnected that he slept or didnt do shit like with freeza and co like a bad fan fiction. Just picture it as 2 different kind of manga/animes as it isnt really the same. Less headaches that way about plotholes. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15736 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
I hope Gohan's time being a jobber comes to an end soon. He needs to not be bad sometime. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15736 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
On April 30 2017 13:59 blade55555 wrote: Todays episode was better then I thought it would be. I loved how Piccollo called Gohan out on his arrogance, was about time it was done. yeah that was great, nice to see gohan heading in the direction of being a z-fighter again. I also love that golden hair to black hair flashing when hes transforming, even tho the opposite way, it reminds me of when goku first goes super sayian epic!. Also we saw female broly or cauliflower....werid ass names lol but i really wanna see how strong she is. (also can she go super sayian atm, or does cabba have to show him. (also rofl with the cabbage and cauliflower naming) | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6262 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15736 Posts
I think a few people here were telling me all this earlier, but I just wasn't willing to see it yet. It has never really felt like Goku walked away from these fights a smarter guy. "Huh, Buu is really stretchy" seemed to be all Goku got out of his ring-out with Buu. But maybe I am asking for too much drama. I continue to be hopeful that this tournament serves as some kind of amazing springboard to take this show to the next level. Make Dragon Ball Great Again! | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On May 02 2017 07:48 LegalLord wrote: DBZ was never without flaw. It strikes me as a pretty rough composition that had the advantage of being full of cool shit. Whenever I rewatch it I can always find a fair share of plot points that I really do not care for. No need to put it on a pedestal; it was fun but it wasn't anywhere near perfect. Ofc it wasn't perfect, nothing is. It wasn't even (objectively speaking) an extremely good shounen anime. But it worked very well, it did the fighting well, the different arcs had a dramatic structure which made people care. Super only works for nostalgia, on its own it's just bad. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15736 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6262 Posts
On May 04 2017 20:13 The_Red_Viper wrote: Ofc it wasn't perfect, nothing is. It wasn't even (objectively speaking) an extremely good shounen anime. But it worked very well, it did the fighting well, the different arcs had a dramatic structure which made people care. Super only works for nostalgia, on its own it's just bad. Imo dbz is an extremely good shounen. Yes it has a lot of flaws but it did its job perfectly which is to entertain children. I don't remember any tv show of my youth coming close. You can say that the story telling is worse than some other shounen but at the end of thr day we're not the target audience anymore. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15736 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
Anyways, regarding the point that "we're not the target audience anymore." Probably true, but that's a design fault. If it was originally designed for children it's important to remember that the fandom can potentially last for many years and throwing out those fans in favor of catering to the younglings is a mistake that should not be made. Two anime-style western cartoons I like - Samurai Jack and Avatar - understood this and when they made further seasons well after the initial show they upgraded it an age bracket. Yu-Gi-Oh did it on one out of four attempts (5D's but nowhere else). DBZ -> DBS didn't do it and that was probably a mistake if they were concerned with retaining us original fans. Saying "fuck the old fanbase, let's make it childish and idiotic" is unfortunate - don't know how good it is as a business decision though. | ||
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