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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here. If a chapter or an episode has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers. If you have knowledge on a chapter that has been released or a chapter/episode that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread without spoilers. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action. | ||
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LegalLord
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6667 Posts
Stupid situations, with stupid power scaling with just nonsensical plot holes. Toei fucking up once again big surprise there. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On April 25 2017 00:49 Necro)Phagist( wrote: Was really on board the hype train for DBS, and I enjoyed the Universe 6 tournament a lot, loved the exhibition match. But these last few episodes have really killed alllllll the fucking hype. Stupid situations, with stupid power scaling with just nonsensical plot holes. Toei fucking up once again big surprise there. I'm in the same boat. However: It is clear that DBS is pulling away from DBZ in a variety of ways. This is both out of necessity (power getting crazy) and choice. I think there's going to be a certain amount of messiness and awkwardness no matter what you do, so long as you are trying to make actual changes to the show. Universe 7's participants require some massaging into being somewhat appropriate. We're seeing the negative sides to that right now. Its really messy. But I am hopeful this universe tournament will serve as a great springboard in the same way the Frieza saga set up DBZ for the remainder of the series. I think we could see some really cool stuff going forward once we acclimate to the new show. Well, more directly, once the writers acclimate and have some sort of continuity. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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So far Super didn't create anything interesting imo, there is no adventure, there is no tension, there are simply a few fights here and there, lots of stupid filler and incoherent storytelling. I really hope it will take a turn in/after the tournament arc, but i don't see how you fix the problems Super has at this point. How do we create an interesting villain who would be a match for goku without making him important enough for beerus to interfere? How do we set up our characters so people in the audience have a feeling of power/strength without feeling cheated? What do we do with zeno who is implied to be omnipotent (always bad to create characters like that, even more so when the characterization is that of a little child => no depth) This next arc is really important, i hope it's good... | ||
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LegalLord
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
On April 26 2017 06:25 LegalLord wrote: GT is a lot worse. I wouldn't force you to watch it because that isn't pleasant but trust me, it is. All the plots are even stupider. Except concept art, ssj4, ssj4 gogeta are fucken badass awesome. The plot is....werid with much to be desired. Especially the start of baby saga which took what felt like a billion years to get going and then the second blackstar plot was wtf. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
And then you have zeno, an even more powerful being, basically omnipotent. Goku is also basically his friend. I just don't see that there can be plot which is interesting at this point, all we ever get are lazy tournament arcs with characters of other universes who apparently are on a similar lvl while looking ridiculous most of the time, with no background story, no development. I mean there is no impact whatsoever. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On April 26 2017 06:29 Shock710 wrote: Except concept art, ssj4, ssj4 gogeta are fucken badass awesome. The plot is....werid with much to be desired. Especially the start of baby saga which took what felt like a billion years to get going and then the second blackstar plot was wtf. SSJ4 was a pretty cool concept, if a little bit uncreative. Gogeta was a disappointment but DBS managed to top it with Vegito failing in the same way (fusion running out before victory for no good reason). You did forget one thing from that arc that was badass though: dragon fist. Using that attack more often was awesome. | ||
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TMG26
Portugal2017 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Vegito felt way more menacing and cocky this time. Also Shin states Vegito more powerfull than Beerus. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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LegalLord
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On April 26 2017 06:32 The_Red_Viper wrote: The main problem of Super is that Goku and friends are basically friends with "gods" who are so much stronger/powerful than anything else. At that point, where does tension come from? And then you have zeno, an even more powerful being, basically omnipotent. Goku is also basically his friend. I just don't see that there can be plot which is interesting at this point, all we ever get are lazy tournament arcs with characters of other universes who apparently are on a similar lvl while looking ridiculous most of the time, with no background story, no development. I mean there is no impact whatsoever. I just have to state/ask, I feel like I have never seen you in a show thread and you stating you had any enjoyment whatsoever. Every tv show thread I go in that you pop up in, you tend to be complaining how bad it is. Why do you watch it if you don't enjoy it? If I wasn't enjoying Super I would leave it. I personally find Super pretty good, flaws in it, but not this horrible thing you say it is. I definitely prefer it to GT (I like GT, but I disliked how they made Goku a kid and lack of Vegeta!). | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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With GoT (i guess that's the other show you mean) i actually still enjoy it, i just think it got worse and i mainly talk about that side simply because most people do not talk about it. But yeah i actually do not enjoy dbs atm at all, it's just a sense of wanting to know the ending simply because of all the time i already invested in the franchise. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On April 26 2017 12:21 The_Red_Viper wrote: Yeah i really should give it a try, i never was really interested because it's basically fanfiction right? I need my official canon usually^^ If you can watch DBS from a fanfiction perspective, you can certainly enjoy GT. | ||
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Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
Damn that Goku thinking he can just bring everything that wants to blow themselves up to King Kai's planet. Also, I thought that if you died again whilst already dead (as mentioned when Kid Buu was about blow up Grand Kai's planet) you would be gone forever. Guess Goku forgot about that. | ||
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LegalLord
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On April 27 2017 07:55 Thezzy wrote: King Kai blurting out that he's not a bomb disposal unit had me laughing. Damn that Goku thinking he can just bring everything that wants to blow themselves up to King Kai's planet. Also, I thought that if you died again whilst already dead (as mentioned when Kid Buu was about blow up Grand Kai's planet) you would be gone forever. Guess Goku forgot about that. Its ok. If King Kai dies, we can wish him back and make him a member of universe 7's team. He'll ring out SSB Goku when they practice. | ||
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MoneyHypeMike
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