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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If a chapter or an episode has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has been released or a chapter/episode that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread without spoilers. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
April 06 2017 22:08 GMT
#961
On April 07 2017 04:58 Xx_Enchantress_xX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 14:44 Mohdoo wrote:
Goku fusing with dragon balls was the ultimate end for me. I really liked that part.



You will have to refresh my memory, when did he do this?


Very, very end of DBGT is Goku flying around on Shenlong and the dragon balls are absorbed into Goku's body.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9064 Posts
April 09 2017 02:19 GMT
#962
Well, this next episode should be interesting. It's picking up in terms of story and intrigue. At least for me.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
April 09 2017 03:13 GMT
#963
I really like the new outro for DBS. Interesting focus on Bulma too. Though they tend to somehow be detached from specific story elements...
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
April 09 2017 06:21 GMT
#964
Nice ep, cant wait to see uni 7 vs uni 11 that seems to be the main setup. Tho its hard to tell from that alien battle how strong the rabbit warrior is, hes weaker than toppo ofc and by quite a bit it seems. Buu was pretty kickass but i wonder if he stays in that form considering in the opening theme he's still fat buu.
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
April 09 2017 12:01 GMT
#965
On April 09 2017 15:21 Shock710 wrote:
Nice ep, cant wait to see uni 7 vs uni 11 that seems to be the main setup. Tho its hard to tell from that alien battle how strong the rabbit warrior is, hes weaker than toppo ofc and by quite a bit it seems. Buu was pretty kickass but i wonder if he stays in that form considering in the opening theme he's still fat buu.


At the end of their little fight, Buu said he was pretty sleepy so I'm guessing he somehow regains that weight while he sleeps and when he wakes up again hes fat Buu again.
MoneyHypeMike
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada305 Posts
April 09 2017 12:20 GMT
#966
Slim Buu <3
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
April 09 2017 19:58 GMT
#967
Either Buu stays this way for the tournament and the opening theme simply showed him as fat to avoid spoilers or he'll get back to fat form before the tournament starts. I do like the slim form, total reminder of Super Buu.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-09 20:01:55
April 09 2017 20:00 GMT
#968
Episode was ok, glad that we saw some of the other universes and some slight background info. Was hoping to see #17, guess I'll have to wait till next time. In before they make #17 super strong and have him make Goku go SSJB lol

On April 10 2017 04:58 Thezzy wrote:
Either Buu stays this way for the tournament and the opening theme simply showed him as fat to avoid spoilers or he'll get back to fat form before the tournament starts. I do like the slim form, total reminder of Super Buu.

I believe that's what they are going for here.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
April 09 2017 20:04 GMT
#969
For those who don't know what happened to #17, here's a summary from the wiki:
After the conflict with Cell, Android 17 becomes a park ranger in the wildlife preserve area of a gigantic royal nature park, where he is well paid. He is an outstanding guard who does not hold back against poachers. It is an ideal job for #17, as he loves to be on his own and is not big on cooperating with others; since he is so good at his job, he takes in a high salary. Android 17 also marries a zoologist; they have one child and two adopted children, and live happily in an isolated house inside the nature park. He went and met #18 and Krillin one time, but did not talk about what he had been up to, maybe because he considers such a wholesome lifestyle embarrassing.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
April 09 2017 20:05 GMT
#970
Really cool seeing Buu put in some work. Buu is still a really strong combatant, I bet there won't be too many who can match him from the other universes.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 09 2017 20:10 GMT
#971
I dunno tbh, Buu is strong yes, but the guy hasn't tried in years. As for matching, I feel like Goku and Vegeta are a definite yes for staying on stage and this will become 1v1 afterwards, maybe Buu but no one else.

Thanks LL, didn't realize he was married. Thought he just worked there.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
April 09 2017 20:23 GMT
#972
In truth the Saiyan style of fighter does seem to be a trope that perhaps has been overemphasized. Saiyan strength is based on transformations more than anything else, whereas Buu, Piccolo, any of the humans, etc., have a much different source of how they draw out their strength. I would like to see beefy versions of the others that would do some good. There is something to be said for the ungodly resistance of Buu and his magical abilities that made him so utterly menacing as a villain.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-10 01:08:17
April 10 2017 00:47 GMT
#973
Great episode.

Buu had a great performance and I really dig the direction they are taking him. A+. I don't think he will wake up fat. Buu seems legitimately fired up after slaying that furry. I also like how they are not letting Buu just be some random dumb fuck. He was smart in DBZ when it came to fighting and had some clear strategy going for him. Same here with just straight up stretching Goku out of the arena. I look forward to seeing Buu totally exploit his abilities during the tournament and I am doubtful we will see anything on his level in terms of his resilience. As LL mentioned, he is nearly impossible to kill. Lets not forget what it took to finally bring that fucker down. Not entirely practical in a tournament scenario.

On April 10 2017 05:10 BigFan wrote:
I dunno tbh, Buu is strong yes, but the guy hasn't tried in years. As for matching, I feel like Goku and Vegeta are a definite yes for staying on stage and this will become 1v1 afterwards, maybe Buu but no one else.

Thanks LL, didn't realize he was married. Thought he just worked there.


Remember how long Buu was dormant before being resurrected? Remember how badly he fucked everyone up like 45 seconds after waking up?


EDIT: One more thing: We're at 37 hours til the tourney. Didn't we start out at 40 hours til? This is a pretty productive 3 hours, lol. We are totally on track to allow all the universe 7 fighters time to go in the time chamber.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-10 08:16:03
April 10 2017 08:15 GMT
#974
Buu also beat up Majin Vegeta so freaking much, that Vegeta decided to kill himself.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Eridanus
Profile Joined April 2017
United States75 Posts
April 10 2017 10:08 GMT
#975
So they are having this big fight against opponents we don't know about at all, until just now, and they are struggling to paint a picture about who some of them are. Why should we care about what happens to the fighters from the other universes?
Also, the universes being 'erased' that's kind of bland.
Doesn't give the watcher that much reasons to care. They had the same problem when they fought Champa's universe. Yeah, we cared for the Beerus-Champa rivalry, but all their fighters had no background.

As for Krillin, Tien and Roshi, are they really fighting? Really? That's Goku & co delusion, right? Surely Beerus doesn't want his fate to rest on Roshi being able to beat people who are possibly stronger by a factor a billion? I hope Beerus or Whis come out and point out the absurdity of this, because surely no watches is convinced.

Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
April 10 2017 11:20 GMT
#976
Given that Roshi, Krillin and Tien have been in the intro for a while now, I think we can assume they'll be in the tournament.
Not as powerhouses obviously, probably some kind of tactical support or something. Sure they *could* get knocked out one second into the fight by an enemy powerhouse, but hopefully that's where Goku/Vegeta/Gohan/Buu come in to avoid that.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6667 Posts
April 10 2017 13:12 GMT
#977
On April 10 2017 19:08 Eridanus wrote:
So they are having this big fight against opponents we don't know about at all, until just now, and they are struggling to paint a picture about who some of them are. Why should we care about what happens to the fighters from the other universes?
Also, the universes being 'erased' that's kind of bland.
Doesn't give the watcher that much reasons to care. They had the same problem when they fought Champa's universe. Yeah, we cared for the Beerus-Champa rivalry, but all their fighters had no background.


As for Krillin, Tien and Roshi, are they really fighting? Really? That's Goku & co delusion, right? Surely Beerus doesn't want his fate to rest on Roshi being able to beat people who are possibly stronger by a factor a billion? I hope Beerus or Whis come out and point out the absurdity of this, because surely no watches is convinced.


I disagree with this, 7 universes being erased is pretty high stakes for me as a watcher. We have some background on universe 6 and plus we have a bit on the pride troopers as well and I'm sure during this mini recruitment arc they are going to give us background on some of the top fighters from other universes as well. I see no problem with this tournament, I'm hyped for it personally.

Krillin, Tien and Roshi are kinda weak, they are trying desperately to justify it these last few episodes with the whole tournament experience stuff but it's 99% a marketing decision as opposed to a logical choice.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
April 10 2017 14:38 GMT
#978
Wouldn't Yardratians be a much better addition to the team than Earth rejects? They seem to be masters of insane technique, which is really the only thing keeping Krillin relevant.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10953 Posts
April 10 2017 14:45 GMT
#979
If the last episodes teached anything then its that sayans are stupid and don't understand ring out rules... Despite having fought and won in tournaments with ring out rules before.


Its just dumb.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-10 14:58:31
April 10 2017 14:50 GMT
#980
On April 10 2017 23:45 Velr wrote:
If the last episodes teached anything then its that sayans are stupid and don't understand ring out rules... Despite having fought and won in tournaments with ring out rules before.


Its just dumb.


Yeah, this was my thought as well. This idea that Gohan is inexperienced is brain dead. What makes Krillin so experienced? The fact that he appeared in Dragon Ball as a child and did various chores for Roshi? He was lazy throughout the entire show.

Meanwhile, Gohan outdid Krillin in every moment in the Frieza saga. He fucking took out Cell for fuck's sake. He trained with Goku in the time chamber prior to that. Then he did what he did against Super Buu and he's just some dipshit? Meanwhile Krillin is a shitty cop.

The only thing that makes Krillin somewhat justified as a better fighter is the fact that he was in dragon ball. That's not a good reason. He's just a character that has existed for longer. Plain and simply, there is no logical justification for Krillin to be some kinda wise man compared to Gohan. The only person who should have been a wiser fighter than Gohan is Roshi himself. Roshi's ability to keep up with the speed of various SSJ fights (from an observer perspective) is well supported (though sometimes inconsistent) in DBZ. He's always been able to track and predict the progress of various fights. Meanwhile, Krillin is usually shitting his pants.

With regards to the Goku vs Buu, that was somewhat justified. First of all, Goku never even went SSJ. Second, Buu's ability to constrict movement and heavily exploit his physiology is well supported. Buu was never dumb as a fighter. He was always a good strategist as a fighter and him coming up with tricks against Goku after watching Goku fight in the exhibition match, and fighting him extensively previously, makes sense. If he is suddenly filled with a surge of motivation to thrash furries, I am not having a hard time believing he came up with unique strategies at dealing with people with human-like physiology and limitations.
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