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Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
May 06 2015 10:35 GMT
#361
On May 05 2015 10:45 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 08:32 Adreme wrote:
On May 04 2015 12:23 Forikorder wrote:
On May 04 2015 11:05 Adreme wrote:
On May 04 2015 09:29 Forikorder wrote:
On May 04 2015 08:40 oneofthem wrote:
lol that's just stupid.

how so? she doesnt have any reason to go back to being an adult, and wasted so much time doing nothing but research and theres definite flags between them

why wouldnt she stay as a kid and live a normal life this time?


Because no matter what her body is she has the mind of an 18 year old girl and mitsuhiko is 6-7 years old. I am almost 100% sure that is not a can of worms any author would ever want to open.

who cares about her mind? by all rights shes just as young as he is, and anyway hes already shown flags between the 2 and ayumi seems to like conan so id say the worms are out of the can already


Just because she has the body of a child does not make her one. I have seen 10 year olds who like they are 25 but that does not mean they can go buy beer and I have seen 18 year olds who could fit in at a middle school and that does not mean they cant drive. Your age is what it is and she is 18 and he is. As Seeker said Ayumi only likes Conan because she thinks he is actually an elementary school kid and that route is going nowhere and everyone knows it so also why it is sort of a dumb route.

realistically though, why would she want to return to normal? (assuming no side effects emerge)


That is the one part I do agree with. She has zero reason to go back, though maybe she will to do a power of friendship transitions ages when it comes to Ayumi, but unless they do that thing that every shoujo manga does where right after basically all conflict is resolved they skip 10 years into the future in order for the couple to get together I can not see your ending actually happening (and even then its weird but it dodges the issue). Incidentally I find it very weird that EVERY shoujo does that and no other genre of manga does typically so it is fairly unlikely but I just put it out there.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 06 2015 13:29 GMT
#362
On May 06 2015 19:35 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 10:45 Forikorder wrote:
On May 05 2015 08:32 Adreme wrote:
On May 04 2015 12:23 Forikorder wrote:
On May 04 2015 11:05 Adreme wrote:
On May 04 2015 09:29 Forikorder wrote:
On May 04 2015 08:40 oneofthem wrote:
lol that's just stupid.

how so? she doesnt have any reason to go back to being an adult, and wasted so much time doing nothing but research and theres definite flags between them

why wouldnt she stay as a kid and live a normal life this time?


Because no matter what her body is she has the mind of an 18 year old girl and mitsuhiko is 6-7 years old. I am almost 100% sure that is not a can of worms any author would ever want to open.

who cares about her mind? by all rights shes just as young as he is, and anyway hes already shown flags between the 2 and ayumi seems to like conan so id say the worms are out of the can already


Just because she has the body of a child does not make her one. I have seen 10 year olds who like they are 25 but that does not mean they can go buy beer and I have seen 18 year olds who could fit in at a middle school and that does not mean they cant drive. Your age is what it is and she is 18 and he is. As Seeker said Ayumi only likes Conan because she thinks he is actually an elementary school kid and that route is going nowhere and everyone knows it so also why it is sort of a dumb route.

realistically though, why would she want to return to normal? (assuming no side effects emerge)


That is the one part I do agree with. She has zero reason to go back, though maybe she will to do a power of friendship transitions ages when it comes to Ayumi, but unless they do that thing that every shoujo manga does where right after basically all conflict is resolved they skip 10 years into the future in order for the couple to get together I can not see your ending actually happening (and even then its weird but it dodges the issue). Incidentally I find it very weird that EVERY shoujo does that and no other genre of manga does typically so it is fairly unlikely but I just put it out there.

well even shonen manga typically do some form of timeskip[ at the end, just generally not as big as Shoujo whos characters typically end up married/pregnant so the timeskip helps jump right to that
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 06 2015 15:35 GMT
#363
it's just incredibly poor characterization to write the children into the romance part. they are all teases.

i don't really see any content in ran's emotional or dramatic storyline, it's incredibly generic and thin and only served as a platform for romantic comedy situations. the actual romantic development in this franchise is mostly about haibara.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
May 06 2015 15:40 GMT
#364
On May 07 2015 00:35 oneofthem wrote:
it's just incredibly poor characterization to write the children into the romance part. they are all teases.

i don't really see any content in ran's emotional or dramatic storyline, it's incredibly generic and thin and only served as a platform for romantic comedy situations. the actual romantic development in this franchise is mostly about haibara.


lol character progression/development means we are that much closer to the end(we are pretty close, yet really really far).
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 06 2015 16:39 GMT
#365
On May 07 2015 00:40 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 00:35 oneofthem wrote:
it's just incredibly poor characterization to write the children into the romance part. they are all teases.

i don't really see any content in ran's emotional or dramatic storyline, it's incredibly generic and thin and only served as a platform for romantic comedy situations. the actual romantic development in this franchise is mostly about haibara.


lol character progression/development means we are that much closer to the end(we are pretty close, yet really really far).

i wouldnt say that one last agent then there after the main boss

where only so far away because theres still so much pointless filler
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
May 06 2015 16:46 GMT
#366
I enjoy the filler though.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 06 2015 19:16 GMT
#367
On May 07 2015 01:46 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I enjoy the filler though.

its gotten pretty repetive though
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
May 07 2015 05:13 GMT
#368
On May 07 2015 01:39 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 00:40 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 07 2015 00:35 oneofthem wrote:
it's just incredibly poor characterization to write the children into the romance part. they are all teases.

i don't really see any content in ran's emotional or dramatic storyline, it's incredibly generic and thin and only served as a platform for romantic comedy situations. the actual romantic development in this franchise is mostly about haibara.


lol character progression/development means we are that much closer to the end(we are pretty close, yet really really far).

i wouldnt say that one last agent then there after the main boss

where only so far away because theres still so much pointless filler


That is the way they are implying but there could very well be TONS more. We still know none of the members of there research division, we know nothing about what they are researching what there goals are. Honestly for all the episodes and characters we have seen the organization itself is still largely a mystery. There have been some hints and clues here and there but nothing concrete and that is years of possible content in and of itself.

Basically only characters in the organization we have met are those involved in there assassinations and soon to be the number 2 but we also have been told that they do tons of other things and we have barely gotten to see any of it.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 08 2015 14:35 GMT
#369
On May 07 2015 14:13 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 01:39 Forikorder wrote:
On May 07 2015 00:40 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 07 2015 00:35 oneofthem wrote:
it's just incredibly poor characterization to write the children into the romance part. they are all teases.

i don't really see any content in ran's emotional or dramatic storyline, it's incredibly generic and thin and only served as a platform for romantic comedy situations. the actual romantic development in this franchise is mostly about haibara.


lol character progression/development means we are that much closer to the end(we are pretty close, yet really really far).

i wouldnt say that one last agent then there after the main boss

where only so far away because theres still so much pointless filler


That is the way they are implying but there could very well be TONS more. We still know none of the members of there research division, we know nothing about what they are researching what there goals are. Honestly for all the episodes and characters we have seen the organization itself is still largely a mystery. There have been some hints and clues here and there but nothing concrete and that is years of possible content in and of itself.

Basically only characters in the organization we have met are those involved in there assassinations and soon to be the number 2 but we also have been told that they do tons of other things and we have barely gotten to see any of it.

all that would be figured out while going after the boss though if you start finding out the calssified secrets then its only one step further to the boss
Unattended Cake
Profile Joined December 2012
United States877 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-15 03:27:37
May 15 2015 03:25 GMT
#370
Hello, first time posting in this thread, but didn't there used to be a list of "plot significant" episodes in the OP? I'm just asking because my nephew wanted to get into the anime from episode one and I'm not sure if they can make it through all of the filler (up to a certain point, they were actually just as good).

EDIT: Ah, stumbled upon the post that said the wiki had markers for episodes. Thanks.
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
May 23 2015 21:43 GMT
#371
Looking at the episode listing for the anime and it shows it's about to start a long Black Organization arc so I'm hyped for that. Also can anyone identify this random clip. Might be from a movie I don't remember both Kudo (or maybe it's Kaito Kid?) and Haibara turned into an adult at the same time in this setting.

+ Show Spoiler +
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 24 2015 02:59 GMT
#372
iirc only time haibara became an adult in the manga is once while escaping Gin so im fairly certain its a movie
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 24 2015 04:02 GMT
#373
There's an ova where Conan gets sick and dreams that they all grew up naturally again. Might be from that
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Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
May 24 2015 13:24 GMT
#374
On May 24 2015 13:02 Shellshock wrote:
There's an ova where Conan gets sick and dreams that they all grew up naturally again. Might be from that

Yep, it's the ninth OVA: The Stranger from Ten Years Later.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-24 17:24:14
May 24 2015 17:23 GMT
#375
Yes it is that OVA, just watched it. The ending is supposed to be touching, but it's also troubling too. + Show Spoiler +
Ran willing to wait 10 years for Kudo and another 10 years when he doesn't show. The anime has been going on for 20 years so if it wasn't a frozen timeline they would have aged. Ran being loyal to someone who essentially doesn't exist anymore is crazy and sad.
It's a regular length episode so they don't go very far with the concept of Conan being aged up, but worth watching to see Detective Boys grown up.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
April 11 2016 05:17 GMT
#376
Been reading up on the latest chapters that have been released. Some seriously awesome plot progressions are finally happening. What do you guys think?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
April 11 2016 17:48 GMT
#377
Guess it is time to go and catch up with the manga again after I left it a while ago :D
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 11 2016 17:59 GMT
#378
I was just catching up with the anime these last 2 weeks actually. + Show Spoiler +
Just got through the part where Bourbon was revealed to be a double agent for the Japanese
. Thinking about just picking up the manga when I'm all caught up with episodes to get completely up to date
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 20 2016 16:09 GMT
#379
spoiler from 957
+ Show Spoiler +
2 treasures, so crazy but what if shes Rans grandmother? the 2 treasure would be Ran and her mother, seems like the BO has been working on eternal youth shit with the wierd side effect from the poison and that wierd riddle she gave the programmer that one time
bleedinng
Profile Joined September 2016
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-21 13:52:26
October 21 2016 13:50 GMT
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