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Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
October 05 2013 14:08 GMT
#341
On October 03 2013 03:40 75 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 03:33 Amui wrote:
Like against brock I literally would just tackle and potion spam a rock pokemon to death.

hahaha. that was the hardest part in the whole yellow-edition.


Sand attack, thx pidgey
I think esports is pretty nice.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-05 14:51:59
October 05 2013 14:43 GMT
#342
Is the mega evolution a permanent thing in the games? or is it like the anime how it was kinda like an item thing. (one time use, gotta buy more of it later)?
nvm
In order to undergo a Mega Evolution, the Pokémon must be holding the applicable Mega Stone. The player must use their Mega Ring, which contains a Key Stone, to resonate with the Mega Stone held by their Pokémon to trigger Mega Evolution. Mega Evolution can only occur in battle and disappears after the battle is over.

wow Blastoise and Venusaur's megas look so underwhelming compared to the black charizard, like for Venusaur it now has some green acne on his face and vines on his tree (droopy vines...he already had vines are they trying to tell us something?)
the Blastoise omg... :/ seriously (i know this is a pokemon fusion but omg that looks bad ass + Show Spoiler +
http://i.imgur.com/jtsojZ4.jpg
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9813 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-05 14:46:17
October 05 2013 14:45 GMT
#343
On October 05 2013 23:43 Shock710 wrote:
Is the mega evolution a permanent thing in the games? or is it like the anime how it was kinda like an item thing. (one time use, gotta buy more of it later)?

Whether its a consumable item or permanent is not entirely clear yet. What we do know is that pokemon mega-evolve the turn following the switch in, so megacharizard x's fire/dragon typing wouldn't help if you switch into stealth rocks or stone edge.
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Pduff
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7 Posts
October 06 2013 04:55 GMT
#344
This is some great videogame hype, for the upcoming Pokemon X and Y. I thought the fight scenes were some legit animation, and would love to see more.
For me I was growing astonished at what was taking place betwixt my legs. -iNcontroL
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 06 2013 05:00 GMT
#345
On October 06 2013 13:55 Pduff wrote:
This is some great videogame hype, for the upcoming Pokemon X and Y. I thought the fight scenes were some legit animation, and would love to see more.

unfortunately, you're going to have to wait for a long time since I don't believe they are making anymore after origins :/
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
October 06 2013 08:02 GMT
#346
This is so great and it brought back so many memories! The shit a trainer can accomplish if he wakes up on time and get a starter instead of a shitty pikachu. Just imagined what would have happened if Ash didnt run into Misty! He could have had all the legendaries and a bajillion badges right now! Also, because he was not constantly harassed all show by team Rocket, Red actually got his pokemon to decent level instead of wasting time fighting the same ekans/koffing over and over. Red's charizard is so much better than Ash's... THIS IS HOW YOU USE YOUR STARTER! Also the feels during the Cubone part TT. The health bar for gym battle was totally sick haha! Jolteon was about to pull something out of its ass then it just fainted. Also i noticed something, during the E4 fight Ash used a gengar, but when he got to gary gengar wasnt one of his pokemon... HE LOST AT LEAST ONCE BEFORE GETTING TO GARY.

Safari zone + chansey = impossible even in show
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-06 20:03:15
October 06 2013 19:37 GMT
#347
It was fine as an anime but starting with the third episode the anime that was supposed to more closely follow the video game ended up as bad if not worse than anime with Ash with it's illogical pokemon battles. In the original anime Ash would come up with clever ways to win type disadvantages even if there is no way to dodge certain moves in the video game and the anime made up entirely new moves.

However in Origins a lot of the battles can only be explained with huge level disadvantages. Giovanni's Ryhorn for example was able to one shot Victreebell ok, but then it was also able to one shot a Jolteon with an electric move? Jolteon does not have bad special defensive it was a move Jolteon resisted and Ryhorn has terrible special attack. Ryhorn would need to be some absurd level in order to have effective electric moves. Then in order to defeat it Red uses a Hitomonlee that manages to fight this level 80+ Ryhorn monster they both knock each other out which I guess is possible with recoil moves. Then Charizard uses wins 1v1 vs Rhydon using normal moves and seismic toss, the seismic toss managed to take down Rhydon at 70% health too which is even worse than when Ash's Charizard does it at least there it was a finisher instead of a rubber band move. For a show that talks so much about type advantages it seems to make them completely with him even finishing Blastoise with a Charizard's fire blast after surviving a hydro pump.

I suppose what everyone likes about this series is that Red actually succeeds and becomes Pokemon Champ compared to Ash who is an idiot and loses and then gets nerfed in various ways to ensure he never wins anything major. Though the problem with a trainer that wins and becomes champ is that they would be too good of a trainer and would not be a suitable protagonist for another series. Having a different protagonist for each series could work, but I suppose they prefer to have someone that can be identified every series.
sns3rsam
Profile Joined September 2012
United States138 Posts
October 07 2013 07:01 GMT
#348
On October 07 2013 04:37 BlackMagister wrote:
It was fine as an anime but starting with the third episode the anime that was supposed to more closely follow the video game ended up as bad if not worse than anime with Ash with it's illogical pokemon battles. In the original anime Ash would come up with clever ways to win type disadvantages even if there is no way to dodge certain moves in the video game and the anime made up entirely new moves.

However in Origins a lot of the battles can only be explained with huge level disadvantages. Giovanni's Ryhorn for example was able to one shot Victreebell ok, but then it was also able to one shot a Jolteon with an electric move? Jolteon does not have bad special defensive it was a move Jolteon resisted and Ryhorn has terrible special attack. Ryhorn would need to be some absurd level in order to have effective electric moves. Then in order to defeat it Red uses a Hitomonlee that manages to fight this level 80+ Ryhorn monster they both knock each other out which I guess is possible with recoil moves. Then Charizard uses wins 1v1 vs Rhydon using normal moves and seismic toss, the seismic toss managed to take down Rhydon at 70% health too which is even worse than when Ash's Charizard does it at least there it was a finisher instead of a rubber band move. For a show that talks so much about type advantages it seems to make them completely with him even finishing Blastoise with a Charizard's fire blast after surviving a hydro pump.

I suppose what everyone likes about this series is that Red actually succeeds and becomes Pokemon Champ compared to Ash who is an idiot and loses and then gets nerfed in various ways to ensure he never wins anything major. Though the problem with a trainer that wins and becomes champ is that they would be too good of a trainer and would not be a suitable protagonist for another series. Having a different protagonist for each series could work, but I suppose they prefer to have someone that can be identified every series.


Yea also I always thought that Jolteon usually comes with Volt Absorb so it should have been immune! Unless they were going super old school and were basing it off of Red and Green version. But then again, it showed Charizard mega evolving which is from X and Y so yea...
"Every Terran same to me... uhhhh ezpz" -DRG // When Life gives you banelings...
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
October 07 2013 08:03 GMT
#349
ha, watched this today (with some mediocrely-done fansubs) courtesy of infinitestory

it was certainly very amusing, though Red's insistence on using dumb moves was sort of impressive

also unfortunate was the fact that in order to compress it into 4 episodes, they had to skim through a lot of stuff... still, it was fairly enjoyable to watch, even with the absurdity at the end lololol
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Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-07 08:10:09
October 07 2013 08:09 GMT
#350
casuals cant even appreciate later gens, other thing is bidoof is as lame as mr mime, jynx, magnemite, oops, those are lamer than bidoof, and they arent the only examples of not so beautiful design in 1st gen, stop the nostalgia and start the reviewing of opinions
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
October 07 2013 08:23 GMT
#351
The best part was Blastoise facetanking Charizard's punch and giving no... yeah.

On October 07 2013 17:09 Alpino wrote:
casuals cant even appreciate later gens, other thing is bidoof is as lame as mr mime, jynx, magnemite, oops, those are lamer than bidoof, and they arent the only examples of not so beautiful design in 1st gen, stop the nostalgia and start the reviewing of opinions


Bidoof is gold as far as HM slaves go. Only a fool would deny him a spot on their team.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
October 07 2013 08:51 GMT
#352
On October 07 2013 17:23 Dismay wrote:
The best part was Blastoise facetanking Charizard's punch and giving no... yeah.

Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 17:09 Alpino wrote:
casuals cant even appreciate later gens, other thing is bidoof is as lame as mr mime, jynx, magnemite, oops, those are lamer than bidoof, and they arent the only examples of not so beautiful design in 1st gen, stop the nostalgia and start the reviewing of opinions


Bidoof is gold as far as HM slaves go. Only a fool would deny him a spot on their team.


Maril is best cause it can learn strength/waterfall/rocksmash/and one more i dont rmbr
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
October 07 2013 09:26 GMT
#353
On October 07 2013 17:51 phodacbiet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 17:23 Dismay wrote:
The best part was Blastoise facetanking Charizard's punch and giving no... yeah.

On October 07 2013 17:09 Alpino wrote:
casuals cant even appreciate later gens, other thing is bidoof is as lame as mr mime, jynx, magnemite, oops, those are lamer than bidoof, and they arent the only examples of not so beautiful design in 1st gen, stop the nostalgia and start the reviewing of opinions


Bidoof is gold as far as HM slaves go. Only a fool would deny him a spot on their team.


Maril is best cause it can learn strength/waterfall/rocksmash/and one more i dont rmbr


Bibarel can learn rock smash, strength, cut, waterfall, surf, and dive. If only he could learn flash, then he'd be perfect.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
October 07 2013 09:32 GMT
#354
On October 07 2013 18:26 Dismay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 17:51 phodacbiet wrote:
On October 07 2013 17:23 Dismay wrote:
The best part was Blastoise facetanking Charizard's punch and giving no... yeah.

On October 07 2013 17:09 Alpino wrote:
casuals cant even appreciate later gens, other thing is bidoof is as lame as mr mime, jynx, magnemite, oops, those are lamer than bidoof, and they arent the only examples of not so beautiful design in 1st gen, stop the nostalgia and start the reviewing of opinions


Bidoof is gold as far as HM slaves go. Only a fool would deny him a spot on their team.


Maril is best cause it can learn strength/waterfall/rocksmash/and one more i dont rmbr


Bibarel can learn rock smash, strength, cut, waterfall, surf, and dive. If only he could learn flash, then he'd be perfect.

lol i remember using a crabby for thos HM but flash T_T it was so hard to get a pokemon to learn flash never had many electric types so i had to use some grass one
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
October 07 2013 09:50 GMT
#355
On October 07 2013 18:32 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 18:26 Dismay wrote:
On October 07 2013 17:51 phodacbiet wrote:
On October 07 2013 17:23 Dismay wrote:
The best part was Blastoise facetanking Charizard's punch and giving no... yeah.

On October 07 2013 17:09 Alpino wrote:
casuals cant even appreciate later gens, other thing is bidoof is as lame as mr mime, jynx, magnemite, oops, those are lamer than bidoof, and they arent the only examples of not so beautiful design in 1st gen, stop the nostalgia and start the reviewing of opinions


Bidoof is gold as far as HM slaves go. Only a fool would deny him a spot on their team.


Maril is best cause it can learn strength/waterfall/rocksmash/and one more i dont rmbr


Bibarel can learn rock smash, strength, cut, waterfall, surf, and dive. If only he could learn flash, then he'd be perfect.

lol i remember using a crabby for thos HM but flash T_T it was so hard to get a pokemon to learn flash never had many electric types so i had to use some grass one

I hated Flash so much I used to just do caves without using Flash xD
HereBeDragons
Profile Joined May 2011
1429 Posts
October 07 2013 13:19 GMT
#356
On October 07 2013 18:50 TAMinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 18:32 Shock710 wrote:
On October 07 2013 18:26 Dismay wrote:
On October 07 2013 17:51 phodacbiet wrote:
On October 07 2013 17:23 Dismay wrote:
The best part was Blastoise facetanking Charizard's punch and giving no... yeah.

On October 07 2013 17:09 Alpino wrote:
casuals cant even appreciate later gens, other thing is bidoof is as lame as mr mime, jynx, magnemite, oops, those are lamer than bidoof, and they arent the only examples of not so beautiful design in 1st gen, stop the nostalgia and start the reviewing of opinions


Bidoof is gold as far as HM slaves go. Only a fool would deny him a spot on their team.


Maril is best cause it can learn strength/waterfall/rocksmash/and one more i dont rmbr


Bibarel can learn rock smash, strength, cut, waterfall, surf, and dive. If only he could learn flash, then he'd be perfect.

lol i remember using a crabby for thos HM but flash T_T it was so hard to get a pokemon to learn flash never had many electric types so i had to use some grass one

I hated Flash so much I used to just do caves without using Flash xD


Golduck was a good candidate for Flash, Strength, Rock Smash, Waterfall, Whirlpool.

On October 05 2013 05:04 seRapH wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
WOW GREEN GOT ROBBED That's such a shitty damage range on the hydro pump. Unless of course the blastoise had a bad nature or no EVs in SpA or charizard had a SpDef nature/SpDef EVs.

And the fire blast had to get a max damage range with a crit to kill with the fire spin. SUCH BULLSHIT RUINED MY SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF


+ Show Spoiler +
But there were no EVs/Nature in Gen1?
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8477 Posts
October 07 2013 13:33 GMT
#357
On October 07 2013 22:19 HereBeDragons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 18:50 TAMinator wrote:
On October 07 2013 18:32 Shock710 wrote:
On October 07 2013 18:26 Dismay wrote:
On October 07 2013 17:51 phodacbiet wrote:
On October 07 2013 17:23 Dismay wrote:
The best part was Blastoise facetanking Charizard's punch and giving no... yeah.

On October 07 2013 17:09 Alpino wrote:
casuals cant even appreciate later gens, other thing is bidoof is as lame as mr mime, jynx, magnemite, oops, those are lamer than bidoof, and they arent the only examples of not so beautiful design in 1st gen, stop the nostalgia and start the reviewing of opinions


Bidoof is gold as far as HM slaves go. Only a fool would deny him a spot on their team.


Maril is best cause it can learn strength/waterfall/rocksmash/and one more i dont rmbr


Bibarel can learn rock smash, strength, cut, waterfall, surf, and dive. If only he could learn flash, then he'd be perfect.

lol i remember using a crabby for thos HM but flash T_T it was so hard to get a pokemon to learn flash never had many electric types so i had to use some grass one

I hated Flash so much I used to just do caves without using Flash xD


Golduck was a good candidate for Flash, Strength, Rock Smash, Waterfall, Whirlpool.

Show nested quote +
On October 05 2013 05:04 seRapH wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
WOW GREEN GOT ROBBED That's such a shitty damage range on the hydro pump. Unless of course the blastoise had a bad nature or no EVs in SpA or charizard had a SpDef nature/SpDef EVs.

And the fire blast had to get a max damage range with a crit to kill with the fire spin. SUCH BULLSHIT RUINED MY SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF


+ Show Spoiler +
But there were no EVs/Nature in Gen1?

Bibarel can rock climb too. Trophis is the best HM slave ever though.
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9813 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-07 14:05:54
October 07 2013 14:04 GMT
#358
On October 07 2013 22:19 HereBeDragons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2013 05:04 seRapH wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
WOW GREEN GOT ROBBED That's such a shitty damage range on the hydro pump. Unless of course the blastoise had a bad nature or no EVs in SpA or charizard had a SpDef nature/SpDef EVs.

And the fire blast had to get a max damage range with a crit to kill with the fire spin. SUCH BULLSHIT RUINED MY SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF


+ Show Spoiler +
But there were no EVs/Nature in Gen1?

+ Show Spoiler +
Call it Evs or Stat XP or whatever, they serve the same purpose. And EP4 has mega evolution, which I don't really remember being in gen1 either.


On the topic of HM Slaves tho, linoone was my personal favorite. Ziggy was super cute and linoone was really fun to use in UU with BellyDrum/Salac gluttony
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Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
October 24 2013 19:36 GMT
#359
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 24 2013 21:40 GMT
#360
^ Its been out for a while now?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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