[Manga] Shingeki no Kyojin - Page 6

The wall is full with "human titan" and the church knows about it for as long as the wall existed. So you can assume they have the scientific means to turn human to titan at will. The hero's father was probably part of it or had contact in the church and that's probably why he turned his son into a titan as well (and probably informations about this are in the basement of their house...)

The most interesting "titan" is the monkey guy. It doesn't know about the 3D stuff, and isn't even sure human can talk (not sure, maybe was it a taunt/joke?). Is he even human himself and if yes, from outside the wall then ? Now we can only assume he's the guy able to turn the villagers into dumb titans... but how ?

About the armor/giant titans breaking the first wall and then the second, I can only see two explanations as of now :
1) Stupid kid rebelious thinking aka "I'm a titan, you're not, die so that only the powerful human-titan can live on this planet". Sadly enough, the fact that they want the main character to join them makes it look that way...
2) Conditionned by church fanatics to create fear so that they gain more control over the people and ultimately take controls over all the survivors. Once this is done, it wouldn't probably be too hard to retake control of the walls but this time with the Church in control.

Your guess ?

I guess I do still somewhat agree with Razhil's theory. However, I think actually, it may be another one of those stories where actually Armored / Colossal Titans are actually the good guys. The church has been turning people into Titans for a while, (knowing the walls filled with titans etc). and they were involved in some sort of experiment on whatever's the name of the town they were from and they're trying to enact some sort of revenge, I can't be sure if whether or not they know it was the church that did it to them.

It's starting to get a little far-fetched but I'd think that the scouting legion commander had started to pick up there was some group of humans that were titans and he was trying to figure it out. However, there are 2 groups, one being Annie, Reinar, Bertholdt and Ymir (and possible the others, such as the one that worshipped Ymir) and whatever regular titans may listen to them as they seem to be able to control titans to some degree. The other is the church, after the battle in the inner towns they're in a bit of a panic especially after the revealing of the wall, so they convert a whole ton of people into titans in Conny's hometown. When the group at Utgard were surrounded Ymir eventually ended up fighting realizing there was no breach and in fact, whatever happened was not at the control of their group (Annie, Reinar Bertholdt). My hypothesis seems really far-fetched as of right now, but I feel it kinda fits a certain archetype of anime / mangas that seem to appear from time to time.

Regardless, this is a great manga and I can't wait for moar >_<

Dakkas you're right that the monkey guy is probably not responsible for the titan creation. The fact that the small titans are only listening to him to a certain point may be a proof of that. I jumped to quickly to conclusions there...

About the "rebellious kid", it's maybe not the correct term but that last invitation from Reinar to Eren looked too much like a "Come to the Dark side, we have cookies". But I do think it's probably a Church plot and there is probably a biggest reason about them being there in the first place.

Now it's true I was completely forgotten about the titan crying out "Ymir". Can we assume it's somebody from her village that got recently turned into a titan. It looks like recently created titans are sometimes keeping some sanity (as for Conny's mom) but ends up loosing it as the titan you're speaking about. Actualy could we assume that every titan is artificial ?(except maybe the monkey guy, i don't know about this guy)

Last thing for today, it really looks like Reinar & co had no idea about Ymir being a Titan. The flashback where Titan-Ymir eats one of Reinar's friends makes me thing Reinar & co were not yet able to turn into titans at that time and that they would most probably have a grudge against Ymir if they had known beforehand. I don't think that she's dead btw as we've already seen that being swallowed whole by a titan let you some time before you die (specialy if you can turn into a titan yourself).

What I'm interested in is the connection between Reinar/Bertholdt and the ape titan. When the two saw the ape titan they seemed pretty shocked and scared. Then Reinar had his fight with the dumb titans and seemed to genuinely think he was going to die; in fact, this was his whole panic reason for rushing the recruitment of Eren afterwards.

Now, I don't understand why Reinar would have an internal monologue about dying when he could turn into a titan, but I think that it wasn't a mistake (author lying to us to keep us in the dark) and that Reinar's group's plans have been seriously compromised by the ape titan. He seemed to think the mission was a failure, and that his actions in the past were because he was stupid, though he does acknowledge he doesn't know what he has been doing was right or wrong.

So maybe in the end these two aren't anything big compared to what the ape titan has up its sleeves. The ape titan seems to have the most control over the dumb titans. Remember that the best the confirmed human titans have been able to do to "control" the dumb titans was just force the dumb titans to attack "controlling" human titan. Eren and Ymir drew hostile attention, whereas Anne's scream/roar summoned them to eat her. It's likely back then the colossal and armored titans merely drew the dumb titans near to where they broke down the gate via bait tactics; they don't really command the titans. Ymir's case is some other story, and clearly involves only certain titans since the ones she fought she had no command over.