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YoucriedWolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
August 22 2013 12:10 GMT
#2021
Good to have you back Sam!
Can you say something about summa technologiae? I have yet to hear an opinion about it.
123Gurke
Profile Joined January 2005
France154 Posts
August 22 2013 12:37 GMT
#2022
Great to have you back, sam!

Finished:

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Overall a fun book, but the last few chapters were highly confusing. Will read it again some day.

Reading:

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My parents bought this mainly because it plays near the place where I lived when I was in Paris last year. I am nearly one third in after just an hour or so and so far it is really fun. And it is nice to read something easy again after Blood Meridian and As I Lay Dying.
"No," she said, "but sometimes I like to watch."
Juice!
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium295 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 14:32:38
August 22 2013 13:11 GMT
#2023
Any suggestions for a good book?
The list of books i've read isn't that huge as i only recently started reading.

What i read so far:
Hunger games triology - Suzanne Collins
the divine comedy - Dante
All the books of Dan Brown (<- really loved those)
The hobbit - J.R.R. Tolkien
Messias - Boris Starling (<- Amazing book)
Abraham Lincoln vampire hunter - Seth Graham Smith
World War Z - Max Brooks


Anyone has any suggestion for a new book in the line of the genres i've read so far (and stated above)? I'm really familiar with most writers so i'm kinda in the dark.

(Books can be in English or Dutch)

After some search i came upon this list:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/syltguides/fullview/2QRR7K50RB81

Are these books any good? Anybody know?
Second place is just a fancy term for loser
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 22 2013 17:57 GMT
#2024
On August 22 2013 22:11 Juice! wrote:
Any suggestions for a good book?
The list of books i've read isn't that huge as i only recently started reading.

What i read so far:
Hunger games triology - Suzanne Collins
the divine comedy - Dante
All the books of Dan Brown (<- really loved those)
The hobbit - J.R.R. Tolkien
Messias - Boris Starling (<- Amazing book)
Abraham Lincoln vampire hunter - Seth Graham Smith
World War Z - Max Brooks


Anyone has any suggestion for a new book in the line of the genres i've read so far (and stated above)? I'm really familiar with most writers so i'm kinda in the dark.

(Books can be in English or Dutch)

After some search i came upon this list:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/syltguides/fullview/2QRR7K50RB81

Are these books any good? Anybody know?

you could just read some other books from Tolkien (Lotr).
i would recommend animal farm, because its pretty good and easy to read.

but the best advice would probably to read everything you can get your hands on.
this is the best way to find the genres you like and authors you can enjoy.
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TheOneWhoKnocks
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
160 Posts
August 22 2013 18:08 GMT
#2025
There is a feeling which quite often overwhelms me. It is the sudden realization and awareness that I will never read even one percent of the books in the world, and will thus miss out on over ninety-nine percent of the books in existence. It therefore becomes extremely crucial to make sure I pick the right books, since every mediocre or poor book I read could have been replaced by one of the masterpieces I will necessarily miss out on, and never get to experience.

These sorts of thoughts enter my head over and over and overwhelm me, until I finally collapse into a nihilistic stupor and play video games for hours on end. Caring just takes too much.
I did it for myself.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 18:31:30
August 22 2013 18:28 GMT
#2026
On August 22 2013 21:10 YoucriedWolf wrote:
Good to have you back Sam!
Can you say something about summa technologiae? I have yet to hear an opinion about it.


I thought it was really interesting, although maybe a little too long. I like it because his use of ideas from biology as metaphors for complex systems (like the development of human culture and scientific thought) is pretty sophisticated for its time (and that's a particular topic of interest for me). Probably the most interesting discussion is his argument about the proliferation of specialized knowledge as a barrier to the endless accumulation of scientific knowledge, not because it's impossible to know, but just because scientists don't live long enough to deal with the information explosion. it's sort of like a malthusian trap for science, i guess, if that makes any sense

also of course it's pretty funny, although like i said maybe a bit droning

On August 23 2013 03:08 TheOneWhoKnocks wrote:
There is a feeling which quite often overwhelms me. It is the sudden realization and awareness that I will never read even one percent of the books in the world, and will thus miss out on over ninety-nine percent of the books in existence. It therefore becomes extremely crucial to make sure I pick the right books, since every mediocre or poor book I read could have been replaced by one of the masterpieces I will necessarily miss out on, and never get to experience.

These sorts of thoughts enter my head over and over and overwhelm me, until I finally collapse into a nihilistic stupor and play video games for hours on end. Caring just takes too much.


welcome to the club, Sisyphus. get yr back to the rock, son

On August 22 2013 22:11 Juice! wrote:
Any suggestions for a good book?
The list of books i've read isn't that huge as i only recently started reading.

What i read so far:
Hunger games triology - Suzanne Collins
the divine comedy - Dante
All the books of Dan Brown (<- really loved those)
The hobbit - J.R.R. Tolkien
Messias - Boris Starling (<- Amazing book)
Abraham Lincoln vampire hunter - Seth Graham Smith
World War Z - Max Brooks


Anyone has any suggestion for a new book in the line of the genres i've read so far (and stated above)? I'm really familiar with most writers so i'm kinda in the dark.


Why don't you try reading _The Name of the Rose_ by Umberto Eco?
shikata ga nai
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 18:42:52
August 22 2013 18:37 GMT
#2027
Welcome back sam! O u O/
General Discussion will be a lot more lively now :D

I guess I will show you what I have been reading since you last left this thread

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Simulacra and Simulation was very difficult to read and I had to have my hand held throughout but in a way, it was pure genius. Thinking back to this morning when I was raging at Metal Gear Solid (that fist fight with Liquid was pure bullshit,) I kind of felt bad and felt like I was falling into the trap Baudrillard more or less observed in modern culture. Once I grasped what he was talking about, I felt pretty bad about myself.

Studying Rawls was also not the most exciting thing in the world and the book A Theory of Justice was not well written, but it was very interesting to hear a non-Marxist account of egalitarianism that was not pseudo-liberal BS you often hear in modern discourse.

Nussbaum on the other hand was very fun to read and definitely worthwhile. Whilst it was pretty grim as anything relating to Greek classics tend to be, it really reshaped my view on how we view much of the classics. Sadly, I spend most of my time on academia.edu and the MIA as an alternative to Wikipedia rather than reading books.

Oh yeah, I did not read it yet, but her book on the politics of disgust was pure genius. From what I saw, it seems to be mostly about homosexuality, but the logic proved to be very helpful when talking about other controversial issues
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
August 22 2013 18:55 GMT
#2028
that's right, rawls is not psuedo-liberal BS, rawls is just liberal BS

I'm glad you liked baudrillard, you should read _Symbolic Exchange and Death_
shikata ga nai
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
August 22 2013 19:06 GMT
#2029
On August 23 2013 03:55 sam!zdat wrote:
that's right, rawls is not psuedo-liberal BS, rawls is just liberal BS

I'm glad you liked baudrillard, you should read _Symbolic Exchange and Death_

Haha, I knew you would not many nice things to say about Rawls given how much Zizek seems to dislike him, or at best, seems to think he is lacking.

Hee hee, as much as I loved Baudrillard, I would be lying if I said I wanted to pick up and read another one of his books, but the French are quite frustrating to read at times. It seems like it is something I will have to get use to.
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
August 22 2013 23:07 GMT
#2030
On August 23 2013 03:08 TheOneWhoKnocks wrote:
There is a feeling which quite often overwhelms me. It is the sudden realization and awareness that I will never read even one percent of the books in the world, and will thus miss out on over ninety-nine percent of the books in existence. It therefore becomes extremely crucial to make sure I pick the right books, since every mediocre or poor book I read could have been replaced by one of the masterpieces I will necessarily miss out on, and never get to experience.

These sorts of thoughts enter my head over and over and overwhelm me, until I finally collapse into a nihilistic stupor and play video games for hours on end. Caring just takes too much.


Knowing that we are living in a golden age of fiction makes me tremendously happy.
KTY
HeatEXTEND
Profile Joined October 2012
Netherlands836 Posts
August 22 2013 23:29 GMT
#2031
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Dune (half way through), a slice of space opera, a pinch of "becoming of age", a dash of heraldry and also its pretty good :3
knuckle
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18838 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 23:30:24
August 22 2013 23:30 GMT
#2032
On August 23 2013 08:07 Xxio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 03:08 TheOneWhoKnocks wrote:
There is a feeling which quite often overwhelms me. It is the sudden realization and awareness that I will never read even one percent of the books in the world, and will thus miss out on over ninety-nine percent of the books in existence. It therefore becomes extremely crucial to make sure I pick the right books, since every mediocre or poor book I read could have been replaced by one of the masterpieces I will necessarily miss out on, and never get to experience.

These sorts of thoughts enter my head over and over and overwhelm me, until I finally collapse into a nihilistic stupor and play video games for hours on end. Caring just takes too much.


Knowing that we are living in a golden age of fiction makes me tremendously happy.

I'm not sure if I agree, but I mostly read old books anyhow, so what do I know?
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
August 22 2013 23:43 GMT
#2033
On August 23 2013 08:30 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 08:07 Xxio wrote:
On August 23 2013 03:08 TheOneWhoKnocks wrote:
There is a feeling which quite often overwhelms me. It is the sudden realization and awareness that I will never read even one percent of the books in the world, and will thus miss out on over ninety-nine percent of the books in existence. It therefore becomes extremely crucial to make sure I pick the right books, since every mediocre or poor book I read could have been replaced by one of the masterpieces I will necessarily miss out on, and never get to experience.

These sorts of thoughts enter my head over and over and overwhelm me, until I finally collapse into a nihilistic stupor and play video games for hours on end. Caring just takes too much.


Knowing that we are living in a golden age of fiction makes me tremendously happy.

I'm not sure if I agree, but I mostly read old books anyhow, so what do I know?

How inclusive is the golden age? Does the whole 20th century count?
dreaming of a sunny day
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 23:47:53
August 22 2013 23:46 GMT
#2034
the golden age of literature was 1953-1981. it is known

edit: alternatively, i would accept the theory that it has all been downhill since war and peace
shikata ga nai
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
August 22 2013 23:47 GMT
#2035
On August 23 2013 08:46 sam!zdat wrote:
the golden age of literature was 1953-1981

could you give some reasoning for those of us who are uneducated? Who was writing then?
dreaming of a sunny day
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
August 22 2013 23:55 GMT
#2036
On August 22 2013 22:11 Juice! wrote:
Any suggestions for a good book?
The list of books i've read isn't that huge as i only recently started reading.

What i read so far:
Hunger games triology - Suzanne Collins
the divine comedy - Dante
All the books of Dan Brown (<- really loved those)
The hobbit - J.R.R. Tolkien
Messias - Boris Starling (<- Amazing book)
Abraham Lincoln vampire hunter - Seth Graham Smith
World War Z - Max Brooks


Anyone has any suggestion for a new book in the line of the genres i've read so far (and stated above)? I'm really familiar with most writers so i'm kinda in the dark.

(Books can be in English or Dutch)

After some search i came upon this list:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/syltguides/fullview/2QRR7K50RB81

Are these books any good? Anybody know?


Read Haruki Murakami. He was the first author i read when i was getting into reading actual litterature, and for someone like you who have mainly been reading fantasy he is a very good "transition" author since he writes magic realism, which offers many of the same joys of reading fantasy, but also more serious litterature. Furthermore he is quite easy to read and you can be almost certain that some of his works are translated into dutch.

Also he is a very hot topic so if you want to discuss litterature there is a pretty good chance that people have read some of his works. I would recommend Kafka of the Shore since it is (in my opinion anyway) one of his best works, and also one of his most famous.

Another author that you might consider is Hemingway. He is another author that is easy to dig into, and also an author that is widely regarded as a must read.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
August 22 2013 23:57 GMT
#2037
On August 23 2013 08:55 Prog455 wrote:
Another author that you might consider is Hemingway. He is another author that is easy to dig into, and also an author that is widely regarded as a must read.


the sun also rises
shikata ga nai
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 00:43:52
August 23 2013 00:43 GMT
#2038
On August 23 2013 08:57 sam!zdat wrote:
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On August 23 2013 08:55 Prog455 wrote:
Another author that you might consider is Hemingway. He is another author that is easy to dig into, and also an author that is widely regarded as a must read.


the sun also rises

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dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 04:49:27
August 23 2013 04:48 GMT
#2039
Finished Wuthering Heights. It was, surprisingly, a simple novel compared to the other classics I've read. I understand some of the praise it receives, it's an interesting story and everything, but almost every character feels so one dimensional that I can't understand how it's regarded as one of the best english novels. Also, on the afterword of the book I read that people tend to symphathise with Heathcliff, which I don't get at all. Yes, he was in love. Yes, his love "abandoned" him. But then he starts doing so much harm to everyone around him that I fail to grasp how people can even remotely like him. 99% of his actions are meant to produce suffering. He feels to me like a brazilian soap opera villain, to be honest. Anyway, it was not a bad book but it was not a great one either.
Juice!
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium295 Posts
August 23 2013 06:12 GMT
#2040
Anyone has any experience with _1Q84_ by Haruki Murakami?
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