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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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SigmaoctanusIV
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ZenithM
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Manit0u
Poland17614 Posts
Kid stuff: - Jar Jar - Anakin in ep I (so they can identify with him) - pod racing - pretty CGI - droids - plenty of jedi action Not kid stuff: - trade embargo/politics (plenty of boring talk) - dismemberment galore - decapitations - mutilation - people being burned alive You get like 3 different themes in there. The lighthearted kiddy stuff with poor slapstick humour on top, then you have the entire political arc which seems to be the backbone of the story but isn't executed well enough and then there's all the stuff right out of Machete Kills or Kill Bill action movies which is definitely not for kids... | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
Damn I just realized I was 10 or 11 when I saw The Phantom Menace for the first time. Time flies... It's really not shocking to see it at that age, and I was still a kid then. One thing that I must admit is that most of my good memories from this movie are centered around the action-y parts. The race was cool, the lightsaber fights were cool. I really didn't ask for more at the time, and when I rewatch the movie, I do it to watch mainly those parts. Not the acting prowesses of whoever played Anakin. And what the fuck did I care about midichlorians back then... Did kids really take up arms because midichlorians were an outrage and killed the mysticism or something? | ||
Falling
Canada11390 Posts
I have gone through a lot of phases with the prequels- I enjoyed the first one upon first viewing, though I did have some vague dissatisfaction with the air combat in Episode I that I would have found difficult to articulate as a grade 7 student... and at the time, the Jedi battle tended to overshadow the flaws of all the other end plot lines. I then went into a hatred of Episode I (your run of the mill Jar Jar complaints), but still didn't really see a problem with Jake's acting... but just that the little kid seemed a far cry from the legendary Darth Vader in a rather dissatisfying way. From there, I simply didn't watch it for a long time and my hatred faded into ambivalence. By the time the 3D release came out, I think it had been close to 10 years since I had last seen it (I just didn't have the desire to rewatch it like the originals.) On the rewatch I was ready to give a new re-evaluation- forget all the old criticism, what do I think now... and despite my best efforts, I kept getting drawn out of the film by some very serious flaws in its storytelling. That's not true of the best children's stories I've watched whether Disney, Don Bluth, or Pixar- to this day, they will draw me in without fail. | ||
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
On November 20 2015 12:22 ZenithM wrote: That's a common argument, yeah. I'm myself not really convinced that the prequel is so bad when I watch a review by 40 year olds :D. I don't think Mike is even that old now, lol. but yeah, once you reach 40 you lose any ability or credibility to be a film critic. | ||
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LegalLord
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Atreides
United States2393 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10836 Posts
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LoneYoShi
France1348 Posts
On November 20 2015 17:28 Velr wrote: Everytime someone sais the prequels weren't bad, they should be forced to read all the EP2 Anakin <-> Padme dialogue loud to themselves... +1. I'm always surprised to see all the people shitting on ep. 1 while I found the ep. 2 way way worse. And yeah, the whole Padme/Anakin story is terribly done: poor writing and poor acting (which is weird considering both actors showed in other movies that they were good, I blame that on the director). | ||
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Falling
Canada11390 Posts
Also, is it really necessary to have Jango on Kamino when Obi Wan arrives? Keep him on the case, transfer his Obi Wan fight to a fight vs Anakin and suddenly Naboo becomes a dangerous place again and there are actual stakes for that subplot. | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
Admitelly I can understand why people hate the kiddy elements of those movies so much because I also found them stupid (jar-jar, r2 doing stupid flying stunts etc...) but not to the point that it ruined the movies for me. | ||
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B.I.G.
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And I remember this song being played to death on radio and TV around the release of Phantom Menace: | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
Here's another cool one. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17614 Posts
On November 21 2015 01:11 B.I.G. wrote: And I remember this song being played to death on radio and TV around the release of Phantom Menace: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEcjgJSqSRU How come I missed that? Weird Al is the bomb! | ||
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B.I.G.
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ThomasjServo
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On November 20 2015 17:28 Velr wrote: Everytime someone sais the prequels weren't bad, they should be forced to read all the EP2 Anakin <-> Padme dialogue loud to themselves... The prequel's weren't that bad. That isn't to say there aren't cringeworthy/bad dialogue (and Jar Jar), but they are not as bad as people like to exaggerate. | ||
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andrewlt
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