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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
Also, nobody in the original trilogy that fights Luke both wants to actually kill him and knows he has a space sword that can deflect laser beams as far as I can remember-maybe Boba Fett, but I'm not sure. In the prequels it's a little stranger since the Jedi are pretty much enemy #1 for the separatists, but there are some super battle droids that are *supposed* to be able to go toe to toe with Jedi. The problem is you only see them battle two of the most battle-capable Jedi in the universe. The clones certainly eradicate them all pretty effectively. The Jedi and Sith don't innovate because they're both bogged down in centuries of teachings that they're incredibly faithful to, and the Jedi and Sith are the main people trying to kill Jedi and Sith. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On December 13 2015 04:50 rezoacken wrote: I remember people laughing at Yoda jumping everywhere. Huh I have no problems with that at all. In terms of battles imo the lightsaber fights in the prequels were a lot better then the original. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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B.I.G.
3251 Posts
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
On December 13 2015 13:16 B.I.G. wrote: Yeah I thought Yoda's jumping tactics made perfect sense. How else is a midget going to compete with someome 5 times his size if not through high mobility? A tortoise with a knife and a grudge is not so scary but a cat with a knife thats aiming for your juggular is a bit of a problem.. Not to mention that someone who is old and feeble is bound to use force maneuvers more than someone who is still in their prime/can move at more than a snails pace. | ||
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HeatEXTEND
Netherlands836 Posts
On December 13 2015 09:03 blade55555 wrote: Huh I have no problems with that at all. In terms of battles imo the lightsaber fights in the prequels were a lot better then the original. Lack of tension. Cirque du soleil amounts of choreography. Blergh. | ||
KwarK
United States44398 Posts
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On December 13 2015 15:13 KwarK wrote: I think the entire Yoda fight was dumb. Yoda was fine as a spiritual figure and leader of the Jedi from a time that was mostly peaceful. It's fine to have him not also bounce around the screen like a cat chasing a laser pointer. His fight against the dark side was a spiritual one through leadership, moral guidance and visions. Eh. While I feel he should have been a pure force fighter, like Palpatine, he was always supposed to be a "great warrior." Flipping shit was stupid, but he should have been doing some Starkiller style throwing space ships around. | ||
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
On December 13 2015 15:13 KwarK wrote: I think the entire Yoda fight was dumb. Yoda was fine as a spiritual figure and leader of the Jedi from a time that was mostly peaceful. It's fine to have him not also bounce around the screen like a cat chasing a laser pointer. His fight against the dark side was a spiritual one through leadership, moral guidance and visions. I watched a youtube video of George Lucas where he talked with the director of E6 Return of the jedi. The director wanted to make Yoda fight with a lightsaber and becos he said the fans wanted to see that and it would be "cool", but George Lucas was appalled at the idea. He explained that Yoda is not that kind of character, he doesn't fight, he is a really old wise sage that spreads wisdom and is a teacher of spirituallity. So I wonder why George Lucas meanwhile decided having Yoda do a lightsaber fight is a good idea. A good guess would be aiming for the cheap thrills of the audience so he can have more $$. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + no wonder i never rewatch any of the prequels....ok maybe just Phantom Menace, because darth maul fight was legit. But other than that, horrible jedi fighting scenes. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18476 Posts
On December 13 2015 20:11 BurningSera wrote: irewatch the yoda fight scenes thanks to the discussion: + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRd9PGmAQUE no wonder i never rewatch any of the prequels....ok maybe just Phantom Menace, because darth maul fight was legit. But other than that, horrible jedi fighting scenes. Darth Maul fight suffered from the same problems as other prequel jedi fights: plot was on pause while jedis fight. Compare this to the OT where the Vader is basically the king of banter while fighting, resulting in some of the most important plot advancement in the movies: there was a point to the fights other than flashy space swords. | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
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c3rberUs
Japan11903 Posts
On December 13 2015 15:13 KwarK wrote: I think the entire Yoda fight was dumb. Yoda was fine as a spiritual figure and leader of the Jedi from a time that was mostly peaceful. It's fine to have him not also bounce around the screen like a cat chasing a laser pointer. His fight against the dark side was a spiritual one through leadership, moral guidance and visions. Yoda only fought when he had really had though. Do you mean it didn't make sense for him to step in to save Obi-wan and Anakin after they got horribly outclassed by Dooku? I mean no amount of leadership and guidance could have saved them from that guy's lightsaber. Or when they found out Palpatine was Sideous, wasn't it more wise to take him out there one on one. I don't think it would be good leadership if he had decided to hang back, let the galaxy suffer under Sideous and wait for decades for the rebellion to do the work. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
And Yoda is still mainly a spiritual leader. Windu was the top action guy. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
Also, we have Yoda using more Force-oriented combat as in the following CW clip: | ||
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
On December 14 2015 00:54 c3rberUs wrote: Yoda only fought when he had really had though. Do you mean it didn't make sense for him to step in to save Obi-wan and Anakin after they got horribly outclassed by Dooku? I mean no amount of leadership and guidance could have saved them from that guy's lightsaber. Or when they found out Palpatine was Sideous, wasn't it more wise to take him out there one on one. I don't think it would be good leadership if he had decided to hang back, let the galaxy suffer under Sideous and wait for decades for the rebellion to do the work. Yes it didn't make sense. The script didn't have to be written in the way so that Yoda had to fight. The whole thing is just retarded and unfaithfull to the OT. What I think is that Yoda should have been a really old spiritual guy that has authority for his wisdom. He should have been really fragile so that everyone could snap his neck. Prequells basically made every character the same empty headed sword swinging idiot driven by simple emotions. Only character in the prequells that managed to look at least a bit smart was Qui Gon Jin. Everyone else is a retard including Yoda. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
because Yoda fought he instantly becomes a "sword swinging idiot bla bla bla" ? Yes everything is bad in the prequels, we already know it, jesus | ||
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
On December 14 2015 02:53 The_Red_Viper wrote: Ah pls this is such a non true statement. because Yoda fought he instantly becomes a "sword swinging idiot bla bla bla" ? Yes everything is bad in the prequels, we already know it, jesus Okay, which character is well written then? Also, Yoda being an idiot has little to do with him fighting a sword battle. More with the way he is written, as in how he responds to situations, what he says, his perspective on the things happening etc. | ||
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