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dafnay
Angola375 Posts
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On December 24 2012 05:27 Forikorder wrote: so amny people complaining its too childish, or too slow, or X part doesnt make sense when it does (eagles) 1) stop dismissing people's opinion because they haven't read the book, I don't see why their judgement shouldn't count. 2) what is the link between the book and the movie being slow ? 3) there is à difference between the two kind of childish, which is why people complain. 4) see my last post for the eagles. Finally I love Tolkien and I dont like Jackson work, as I said several times, and I even think most people with a good understanding of Tolkien dont really like Jacskon's work. | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On December 24 2012 05:35 dafnay wrote: nice spoilers with those eagles . At the end of thé Iliad, Troy is destroyed... | ||
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herMan
Japan2054 Posts
Sure, it wasn't the greatest ever but still good. I've read the hobbit, silmarillion and lotr and it was quite nice that the movie referenced silmarillion a few times. The few gripes I have for this movie are the stone giant scene and the goblin kingdom escape. Gandalf just shows up as the deus ex machina outta nowhere and then they comically run away and escape with cringeworthy cgi. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On December 24 2012 05:41 herMan wrote: Suprised by the amount of people bitching about the movie. Sure, it wasn't the greatest ever but still good. I've read the hobbit, silmarillion and lotr and it was quite nice that the movie referenced silmarillion a few times. The few gripes I have for this movie are the stone giant scene and the goblin kingdom escape. Gandalf just shows up as the deus ex machina outta nowhere and then they comically run away and escape with cringeworthy cgi. How can you say you are surprised then end your post with the thing that clearly ruined the movie? the CGI use was so excessive and a lot of the time completely superfluous. I don't like the direction movies are going with the 3D bullshit and over-use of CGI. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On December 24 2012 05:37 corumjhaelen wrote: 1) stop dismissing people's opinion because they haven't read the book, I don't see why their judgement shouldn't count. 2) what is the link between the book and the movie being slow ? 3) there is à difference between the two kind of childish, which is why people complain. 4) see my last post for the eagles. Finally I love Tolkien and I dont like Jackson work, as I said several times, and I even think most people with a good understanding of Tolkien dont really like Jacskon's work. 2) its a slow book shit doesnt happen fast in it | ||
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TheRealArtemis
687 Posts
On December 24 2012 05:41 herMan wrote: Suprised by the amount of people bitching about the movie. Sure, it wasn't the greatest ever but still good. I've read the hobbit, silmarillion and lotr and it was quite nice that the movie referenced silmarillion a few times. The few gripes I have for this movie are the stone giant scene and the goblin kingdom escape. Gandalf just shows up as the deus ex machina outta nowhere and then they comically run away and escape with cringeworthy cgi. Suprised by the amount of people trying to defend the movie, by saying you should have read the books. like it would breathe life into a bad movie. On December 24 2012 05:45 VayneAuthority wrote: How can you say you are surprised then end your post with the thing that clearly ruined the movie? the CGI use was so excessive and a lot of the time completely superfluous. I don't like the direction movies are going with the 3D bullshit and over-use of CGI. Didnt ian mckellen break down and cry at one point during the recording? Thought I read something about that. apparently he coudlnt handle trying to act with all the CGI around him. he didnt like talking into nothingness and speaking to dummies of the dwarfs. | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On December 24 2012 05:48 Forikorder wrote: 2) its a slow book shit doesnt happen fast in it I kinda don't remember any overly long introduction nor being bored at any moment reading it... I mean, it's totally the same, not like the director decided to make a 3 part movie out of a 300 page book. And even if what you said was perfectly true and the two pacing were the same, even if a book and a movie weren't drastically different medium, including when it comes to pacing, I think dismissing those people's opinion would still be wrong. Edit  wasted my 4000 on this. At least I'm a guardian :D | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On December 24 2012 05:55 corumjhaelen wrote: I kinda don't remember any overly long introduction nor being bored at any moment reading it... I mean, it's totally the same, not like the director decided to make a 3 part movie out of a 300 page book. And even if what you said was perfectly true and the two pacing were the same, even if a book and a movie weren't drastically different medium, including when it comes to pacing, I think dismissing those people's opinion would still be wrong. Edit wasted my 4000 on this. At least I'm a guardian :Dthe problem is you went to watch a movie, it was the exact opposite of the type of movie you wanted to see, and now your complaining the point of the movie was to take the book and make it into a movie, to copy and paste as much as possible if they had rushed the pacing it would have pissed of the fans of the hobbit who were the exact type of people they were trying to please evidently you did not like the movie but thats not because it was a bad movie it just wasnt to your taste | ||
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decado90
United States480 Posts
I also can't think of a PG-13 movie I find enjoyable. Appeals to the lowest common denominator, not realistic, and nothing exciting. | ||
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herMan
Japan2054 Posts
On December 24 2012 05:45 VayneAuthority wrote: How can you say you are surprised then end your post with the thing that clearly ruined the movie? the CGI use was so excessive and a lot of the time completely superfluous. I don't like the direction movies are going with the 3D bullshit and over-use of CGI. Maybe I did not make my point clear enough. The instance when they were rolling on that piece of wood down was the only time I really thought it was poorly done. On December 24 2012 05:53 TheRealArtemis wrote: Suprised by the amount of people trying to defend the movie, by saying you should have read the books. like it would breathe life into a bad movie. I'm not sure if this is a witty response aimed at me or siding with me against religious booklovers. I never said you should have read the books, just stating that I know Tolkien's work a bit before some book guy comes and yells at me for not knowing "how it was supposed to be made" or some shit. All in all, I think people were expecting something else from this movie and are now disappointed. This movie was certainly made to be more lighthearted and I don't mind. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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Thorakh
Netherlands1788 Posts
On December 24 2012 07:21 GhandiEAGLE wrote: ^I think the problem is a lot of people were expecting intense gritty action, when The Hobbit is a fucking kids story I read in third grade. I came in expecting fun lighthearted adventure with a little darkness thrown in, thats what I got, and I enjoyed the hell out of it, If you go in expecting the movie will be exactly like the books you're going to be disappointed. What you should do is view the movie as an adaptation of the book set in the universe Tolkien created and stop nitpicking on every little changed bit. You'll enjoy it that much more. I didn't like the LotR movies as well when I first saw them because I was stuck in the EVERYTHING MUST BE EXACTLY THE SAME OR ELSE!!!!!! mindset. Years later I can thoroughly enjoy them because I don't view them as the books in movie form anymore, I view them as the movies by themselves. | ||
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
I have no complaints. | ||
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TerranosaurusWrecks
Canada187 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On December 24 2012 08:14 TerranosaurusWrecks wrote: I thought it was pretty good, 8/10 worthy. What I didn't like was how forward they were with their messages, they would just blatantly say what the themes were in a few scenes with gandalf and bilbo.i also thought the mountain storm giant scene was a little out of place, i thought it mustve been in the book because there was no way in hell it would just get thrown in there and look that wacky but apparently it wasn't even in the book. Bilbo character developement wasn't that good either, still really good movie though. the giants were in the book but never really given much focus to really just a couple lines and forgotten it was the giants that made them seek shelter in the cave cause it was too dangerous to move with them active | ||
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eX-Corgh
Russian Federation386 Posts
On December 23 2012 20:59 fabiano wrote:I take you didn't read the book? I tried to, but got bored by the time they were finished with the trolls. | ||
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Flench
United States21 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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