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havox_
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany442 Posts
December 15 2012 12:59 GMT
#481
to be honest: i thought the movie was really boring... ok, yes, it was part 1 of 3. but if that means that there has to be a 3 hour movie in which nothing happens at all... then i have to disagree with splitting it up this much.
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
December 15 2012 13:02 GMT
#482
On December 15 2012 21:49 corumjhaelen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 21:46 acker wrote:
On December 15 2012 21:42 corumjhaelen wrote:
While my comment did refer to the subjective part of any judgement about movies, I will never agree with the legend of the internet that wants to put on equal footings Proust and Barbara Cartland, or 300 and Citizen Kane just for the sake of a so-called subjectivity which is in fact nothing but the worst kind of relativism.

And you are perfectly entitled to hold your own opinion about that

It's not an opinion. There are plenty of factual reasons why one is superior to another. Subjectivity is only a little bit of the answer.

Let's hear some examples of factual reasons why one movie is superior to another.
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
December 15 2012 13:10 GMT
#483
On December 15 2012 22:02 Feartheguru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 21:49 corumjhaelen wrote:
On December 15 2012 21:46 acker wrote:
On December 15 2012 21:42 corumjhaelen wrote:
While my comment did refer to the subjective part of any judgement about movies, I will never agree with the legend of the internet that wants to put on equal footings Proust and Barbara Cartland, or 300 and Citizen Kane just for the sake of a so-called subjectivity which is in fact nothing but the worst kind of relativism.

And you are perfectly entitled to hold your own opinion about that

It's not an opinion. There are plenty of factual reasons why one is superior to another. Subjectivity is only a little bit of the answer.

Let's hear some examples of factual reasons why one movie is superior to another.

The wider array of technique used, their adequation with the motivation of the directors, the subject of the movie and how it was treated, the influence and impact of the work in subsequent movies etc etc.
It's not because people on tl keep it to "I liked it because I thought the story was cool" that that's all their is to movie making.
Finally, I'm pretty sure it's not the place to argue in favor or aginst"post-modernist" bullshit. So I'll call off the arguments here, unless I go watch The Hobbit I guess.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
kukarachaa
Profile Joined February 2011
United States284 Posts
December 15 2012 13:16 GMT
#484
Just saw the movie. Didn't really enjoy it.

1) it was too long.

2) in a lot of the fight scenes camera was moving around way too fast and I couldn't tell what was going on

3) the first time goblin king opened his mouth and spoke in perfect English was really weird

4) troll scene felt retarded, so was the stone giants one

5) the whole movie felt really disconnected, there was no flow to it,
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
December 15 2012 13:21 GMT
#485
If you havent read the book i would definitely recommend the movie. Was really entertaining although a bit predictable at some points.
zimms
Profile Joined November 2009
Austria561 Posts
December 15 2012 13:45 GMT
#486
You read the book? ^^
FeUerFlieGe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1193 Posts
December 15 2012 14:10 GMT
#487
I liked it, felt like a really good children's story that could also be very entertaining for adults (and I guess that's what the book is). I can also really tell it goes much further into detail than the LotR movies did, which is very immersive.
To unpathed waters, undreamed shores. - Shakespeare
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17870 Posts
December 15 2012 14:15 GMT
#488
On December 15 2012 21:59 havox_ wrote:
to be honest: i thought the movie was really boring... ok, yes, it was part 1 of 3. but if that means that there has to be a 3 hour movie in which nothing happens at all... then i have to disagree with splitting it up this much.


1st part of LotR was really boring too.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
schimmetje
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1104 Posts
December 15 2012 14:21 GMT
#489
On December 15 2012 23:15 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 21:59 havox_ wrote:
to be honest: i thought the movie was really boring... ok, yes, it was part 1 of 3. but if that means that there has to be a 3 hour movie in which nothing happens at all... then i have to disagree with splitting it up this much.


1st part of LotR was really boring too.


Not if you were a fan of the source material, it was set up very much true to the original. The Hobbit on the other hand could probably be done by now. Of course, Jackson could expand on the story in a great way (which'd be really hard however, ask Lucas how well those kind of things work out), but right now that's really neither here nor there. Here's to hoping though.
Change to MY nostalgia? UNACCEPTABLE! Monkey paaaw!
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
December 15 2012 14:23 GMT
#490
On December 15 2012 23:15 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 21:59 havox_ wrote:
to be honest: i thought the movie was really boring... ok, yes, it was part 1 of 3. but if that means that there has to be a 3 hour movie in which nothing happens at all... then i have to disagree with splitting it up this much.


1st part of LotR was really boring too.


1st part of LotR is the best I think, 2nd is decent but just one big battle and 3rd one is a bunch of crap that should have lasted one hour shorter. Kind of what I expected though considering the book is boring towards the end too.


KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
December 15 2012 14:46 GMT
#491
i havent read any book about it. ive seen the first three lotr but i would easy put this movie one step above them all. i enjoyed it alot
gollum is funny
Jurg Jurg Jurg
OKMarius
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway469 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 14:56:29
December 15 2012 14:54 GMT
#492
On December 15 2012 23:23 Markwerf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 23:15 Manit0u wrote:
On December 15 2012 21:59 havox_ wrote:
to be honest: i thought the movie was really boring... ok, yes, it was part 1 of 3. but if that means that there has to be a 3 hour movie in which nothing happens at all... then i have to disagree with splitting it up this much.


1st part of LotR was really boring too.


1st part of LotR is the best I think, 2nd is decent but just one big battle and 3rd one is a bunch of crap that should have lasted one hour shorter. Kind of what I expected though considering the book is boring towards the end too.




Agreed. Fellowship of the Ring is by far the best Tolkien movie. The Hobbit movie struggles because it tries to mimic it, but fails short because there is much less at stake here.

The Hobbit would be much better if they actually stayed true to the book, and wasn't too obsessed with making sense in the LOTR universe PJ created. The movie should have been from Bilbo's perspective at all times, because The Hobbit is about The Hobbit.

It would also have been better if they removed all those "cheap thrills" scenes.
Slakkoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1119 Posts
December 15 2012 15:01 GMT
#493
I really liked the movie, was great :D Havent read the book but was still awesome, gonna read the book next ^__^
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
December 15 2012 15:06 GMT
#494
ok thats it.. im leaving this thread! So much complaining and ohh how they did it is completely wrong and i hate it and i would have done it super differently, my way, the only right way.

... i thought we could all be happy here and discuss how awesome the movie was...
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 15:16:15
December 15 2012 15:14 GMT
#495
Watched it yesterday, good movie overall but i was still disappointed cause it doesnt come close the Lord of the Rings.
1) It was to long. The book has 300-400 pages and gets splitted into 3 movies with 170 min length. Feels way to streched sometimes.
2) Its to silly and childish. I know that The Hobbit is somewhat for children but the movie goes to far sometimes. I dont remember the orcs being that silly in the book and I also dont remember that their leader is a fat jabba the hutt troll with double chin. The orcs are not menacing and evil like in LotR. They are cutified and u almost feel sorry for them lol.
Respect my authoritah!!
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
December 15 2012 15:14 GMT
#496
To those complaining about Gandalf, he's a wizard he arrives precisely when he means to.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
TheUnderking
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada202 Posts
December 15 2012 15:25 GMT
#497
It's good, but way too damn long. I'll probably watch the next two parts, but... so far I'm not really a fan.
THE PACT IS SEALED!
Zera474
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria2 Posts
December 15 2012 15:42 GMT
#498
I really liked the movie because it was different from lotr but you really felt like you are in middle earth again...
Peter Jackson made a really good job creating the story, it was different from the book because he could not created the evil Orc boss without telling the storys of the dwarves how they found their new home the blue mountains etc etc... The only thing what felt really weird were the stone giants and the very long beginning in the shire think 45minutes but it was nearly the same in lotr.
It was also a whole lot action for only the first part of the movie much more then u would think.
I really dont understand why many people didnt liked the movie because it was more funny and had more action then the FIRST part of lotr. The story was also really nice and ian mckellen und martin freeman played so good!


Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
December 15 2012 15:52 GMT
#499
On December 16 2012 00:14 Tennet wrote:
To those complaining about Gandalf, he's a wizard he arrives precisely when he means to.


hahahah, xDD.
I'll go watch it tomorrow, will post my thoughts after.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
dense12
Profile Joined March 2011
United States40 Posts
December 15 2012 16:06 GMT
#500
I'm glad I don't have such high standards to movies as most of you guys here. I enjoyed the heck out of it. I don't care how true it was to the book at all, and the fact there's going to be more middle earth to me shown, it's amazing.
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