Yes you read it right. Apparently, Micheal Bay (The one that _______ Transformers), is making another reboot of a known and loved classic that children from the Late 80s & 90s loved.
Filmmaker Michael Bay , whose company Platinum Dunes is producing the new live-action Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie, says the pizza-loving heroes in a half-shell will be even more than simply teenage mutant ninja turtles when they return to the big screen next year.
According to Bay at Nickelodeon Upfront last week:
"When you see this movie, kids are going to believe one day these Turtles actually do exist when we are done with this movie. These turtles are from an alien race, and they are going to be tough, edgy, funny and completely lovable."
Seriously. WHEN WILL THIS GUY STOP HIS RAMPAGE?
I liked Transformers 1 but 2 & 3 was just terrible. FUCKING AWFUL EVEN.
And knowing TL, a den full of people who loved and cherished their childhood. Do you share the sentiment that Micheal Bay needs to stop doing these type of movies?
Poll: Teenage Alien Ninja Turtles .. Anyone?
@#$% You, Micheal Bay (1706)
91%
Yeah, I guess. (90)
5%
Fuck NO! (77)
4%
1873 total votes
Your vote: Teenage Alien Ninja Turtles .. Anyone?
(Vote): Yeah, I guess. (Vote): Fuck NO! (Vote): @#$% You, Micheal Bay
On March 25 2012 17:08 Hokay wrote: I just read Michael Bay is only producing the movie and that TMNT: Secret of the Ooze originally had the ooze come from an alien race called Ultrom. Krang is loosely based on the Ultrom from the original TMNT comics too.
I remember renting the live action movies and the cartoon series VHS tapes at a local video store when I was a kid... it's closed down now, like my soul will be after this shit movie.
I've kinda gotten used to companies milking popular franchise to the point that it stands negatively in my memory, so I guess this won't be any different.
i don't get it, a mutation is something kids can look forward to with all the nukes we got. when i was a kid i had a pretty big imagination and didn't care if something was impossible or not like turtles transforming due to some mutation or whatever.
yea he is ruining a franchise but whatever, I don't really care. If I want to watch a ninja turtles movie I'll go back and watch the 90s one
Michael Bay, especially Steven Spielberg, should be banned from making any films. If Spielberg had his way, I'm sure he would even make a Civil War movie involving... aliens!
I really don't understand all this hate. Jar Jar binks is fucking awesome and Transformers 2 and 3 were at least slightly enjoyable watches. I can't see anything not disgustingly amazing about a ninja turtle movie, no matter how much it butthurts your nostalgia. Maybe it's just my age but... I'm gonna go watch that movie with my ninja turtle t-shirts high and I will DAMN RIGHT ENJOY IT.
On March 20 2012 13:06 hp.Shell wrote: No Splinter? Their names are different? How can they call this TMNT?
Oh wait, it's the Teenage ALIEN Ninja Turtles... so where did they learn to be Ninjas? Mars? WHAT THE HELL.
Seriously. You can't fucking remake a TMNT movie and not even have the turtles have the same names. Like wtf bullshit is that? And no Splinter...
Why not just remake Batman series and instead of his name being Bruce we'll call him Bill and let's pretend that Alfred never existed or that "Bill" is actually a hobo living on the streets.
On March 20 2012 13:16 OniGami wrote: Michael Bay, especially Steven Spielberg, should be banned from making any films. If Spielberg had his way, I'm sure he would even make a Civil War movie involving... aliens!
On March 20 2012 13:06 hp.Shell wrote: No Splinter? Their names are different? How can they call this TMNT?
Oh wait, it's the Teenage ALIEN Ninja Turtles... so where did they learn to be Ninjas? Mars? WHAT THE HELL.
Seriously. You can't fucking remake a TMNT movie and not even have the turtles have the same names. Like wtf bullshit is that? And no Splinter...
Why not just remake Batman series and instead of his name being Bruce we'll call him Bill and let's pretend that Alfred never existed or that "Bill" is actually a hobo living on the streets.
On March 20 2012 13:16 OniGami wrote: Michael Bay, especially Steven Spielberg, should be banned from making any films. If Spielberg had his way, I'm sure he would even make a Civil War movie involving... aliens!
On March 20 2012 13:16 OniGami wrote: Michael Bay, especially Steven Spielberg, should be banned from making any films. If Spielberg had his way, I'm sure he would even make a Civil War movie involving... aliens!
This is out of control... totally out of control. Hollywood is now getting seriously serious plunging into the ninja turtles like this. I held my tongue when they made Transformers knowing that it would be hard for them to sell a movie without some hollywood spin to it (sexy women running, etc) and they had the voice of the original optimus prime. I held my tongue when someone obviously took a hit of acid and thought up making a Dragonball Z movie where Goku is in highschool and meets ChiChi at some random dumb, fucking half assed afterschool fightclub. I then held my tongue while they proceeded to try and make not 1, but 2 scooby doo films. I even held in the hate for them changing the Darth Vader line in the bluray copy of starwars. I kept it in while I watched cartoons fall from grace and wondered what had happened to the saturday morning cartoons I loved as a child, where had the original toonami gone?
Hollywood has gone to far now. To far I say. Now going to go and destroy, nay, butcher the turtles. Going to call them alien turtles huh? Fuck off Michael Bay. You may ruin the memory of my childhood for the current generation of kids having ipads in there strollers and not understanding what a real or well produced cartoon or movie is, but I will take those memories to my grave and tell my children and childrens children about when cartoons and movies were actually made for the purpose of enjoying a different universe of possibilities and imagination instead of run of the mill storylines based around aliens;megan fox; or drama.
If they even so dare as think of making a movie or new series based on the original power rangers, doug, hey arnold... Lord help us all.
EDIT: In all honesty.. it doesn't seem like a big deal to some people, and hey, maybe it really isn't that big of a deal. But my opinion at least is that I know a lot of us have fond memories of these shows they remake into crappy new shows or movies. We have warm memories that won't be shared by anyone watching the turtles for the first time. Changing names, removing key characters, making bumblebee out to be a little bit of a bitch at times instead of the BAMF most of us remember his as. These things there doing to use the same concepts we grew up watching but twist them in ways to benefit there wallets. They don't care about the integrity off the original fan base that made these ideas popular enough in the first place to warrant a remake. They don't care about trying to create an original idea because for what ever reason people in the film industry can't create half an idea as good as some of the ones that popped up in the 80s and 90s.
It's just sad to think that anyone who goes to see any of these movies will get a butchered, hollywood version of something pure and enjoyable a lot of us grew up on. It's just hard to see.
Look man, I don't care when you just make shitty, bullshit-laden movies filled with explosions in order to numb the brain so that it can't figure out it's not really entertained, it's your life you're wasting, go ahead. But when you start messing with the Turtles, some of us might start taking it personal. Fuck you Michael Bay, and get your filthy hands off of my childhood.
yeah i love tmnt, owned all the video games for nes back in the day and always owned the vhs tapes but i really dont care that hes doing this. how does this ruin any ones child hood? lolol thats absurd
This is sadly unsurprising. Only way people like Michael Bay will stop is if their venture becomes unprofitable; and that won't be happening anytime soon because the general population blindly enjoys this trash.
On March 20 2012 13:46 aBstractx wrote: yeah i love tmnt, owned all the video games for nes back in the day and always owned the vhs tapes but i really dont care that hes doing this. how does this ruin any ones child hood? lolol thats absurd
Because he is raping a Good Thing in the name of profit. Fans might be less upset if the director wasn't Michael Bay of all people, who doesn't exactly have a sterling reputation for making anything but horrible hollywood schlock.
On March 20 2012 13:15 Forikorder wrote: okay so there teenage mutant ninja turtles
but there not actually mutant, there just aliens
and since there aliens there not really teens either
so now its alien ninja turtles
Except ninjas and turtles are terrestrial so now its just down to Alien but that name was taken decades ago. Making them aliens is against everything the friggin title stands for.
i'm not happy, cuz it's bay, and everything he touches is pretty much shit, but look at the quote.
all he says is the turtles are "FROM an alien race." theorhetically this means aliens may have created the mutagen and the other elements of their origin remain the same, giving a slightly more logical reason to involve krang (as i imagine this is who he wants as the villian). there is no indication splinter won't exist or the names will change. everything will remain the same about the origin other than the origin of the ooze. it's just bay, so it will suck.
even though i want to remain positive. unfortunately, i think this is likely wishful thinking, cuz i would think he would have done major damage control by now confirming that this was what he meant if it were true. but really nothing good could happen to the turtles once bay was associated with them.
Well. I never did watch TMNT as a kid... watched a few episodes here and there, but never really followed it. Same thing for Transformers.
So for me, I don't know the storyline and how badly he messes it up. The stories don't really make sense anyways. However, it'll basically be a couple hours of explosions, fights, and action. That's really all I am expecting, and it'll probably be good in that way.
He wants mah childhoodz. He cannot haz. If I were a rich man, I'd be standing outside cinemas paying people not to see it. This guy has no fucking shame.
this is rather upsetting o,o;; was hoping for an awesome live-action TMNT to be produced eventually, but they give the rights to Bay. fml and fuck TANTs
Damn 9gag hipsters... "I hate George Lucas and Michael Bay, they ruined my childhood by making amazing movies" Well grow the fuck up, Transformers were fucking awesome, all 3 of them, and same goes for Victoria Secret commercials Even tho im 21 and like most of you i grew up watching power rangers, tmnt, dragon ball and all those awesome kids shows, i look forward to this movie and being made by Michael Bay i cant see it being bad.
-Splinter still exists, it's just that now he's a wacky alien overmind who's been stripped of his body but still manages to see the good things in life.
-Krang is now a cruel earth-rat who verbally abuses his girlfriend and only listens to dubstep.
-Shredder's armor has been toned down to be more child-safe. Instead of spikes, it will now be adorned with small nubs which are lethal only to alien turtles.
On March 20 2012 13:46 aBstractx wrote: yeah i love tmnt, owned all the video games for nes back in the day and always owned the vhs tapes but i really dont care that hes doing this. how does this ruin any ones child hood? lolol thats absurd
Because he is raping a Good Thing in the name of profit. Fans might be less upset if the director wasn't Michael Bay of all people, who doesn't exactly have a sterling reputation for making anything but horrible hollywood schlock.
fans might be less upset if they stayed as fucking mutants, why do they have to be aliens?
Well, the story's fucked without the mutagen. Seriously. It can't be TMNT without the mutagen.
And before anyone says it's just a bunch of fanboy rage, this isn't Star Wars when we shit ourselves because Jar Jar Binks was too annoying for us. No, this is Michael Bay changing a cornerstone of the plot that made the story what it was. This is like if George Lucas decided to take the Force away from the Jedi and the Sith. Suddenly Star Wars isn't Star Wars anymore, it's "Empire Crushes Rebels, parts 1-6."
The biggest travesty of it all is that Michael Bay gets to do this and get the box office from calling the film "TMNT" when really it's "Ninja Aliens against some Brain Alien from Dimension X."
I swear to God, Michael Bay better not make a Live Action Robotech or Voltron movie... First Transformers, now Ninja Turtles? When will he be stopped??
This is an absolute travesty. He takes everything awesome, turns it into shit with lots of explosions then somehow makes millions with it while alienating the old fanbase. He's already ruined the Transformers now he's going to destroy the Ninja Turtles.
Now kids under 15 are only going to know "TANT" not the actual good Ninja Turtles.
On March 20 2012 13:46 aBstractx wrote: yeah i love tmnt, owned all the video games for nes back in the day and always owned the vhs tapes but i really dont care that hes doing this. how does this ruin any ones child hood? lolol thats absurd
Because he is raping a Good Thing in the name of profit. Fans might be less upset if the director wasn't Michael Bay of all people, who doesn't exactly have a sterling reputation for making anything but horrible hollywood schlock.
fans might be less upset if they stayed as fucking mutants, why do they have to be aliens?
obviously because now they can have the back story of intergalactic alien assassins running from another intergalactic alien assassin and have intergalactic alien assassin battles on earth.
At this point it neither shocks or bother me. We have all seen what he does, not only to childhood icons, but film in general, yet people can't get enough of robot-balls, shits-getting-real oneliners, comic reliefs etc etc.
Until people stop paying money for his films, this will only keep going concidering this is maybe my deepest childhood memory i'm just gonna skip this one 101% It just ain't worth seeing something you obviously will hate like the plague
I don't understand, why would anyone even think of doing something like this. What is the point exactly. Make a movie about four cool, green aliens and don't use turtles for it - ez. Also, make them eat burgers instead of pizza... You know that guy superman? Yeah I'm making a new movie, but now he's gonna be a mutant. Wth is this...
I wonder if previous generations to ours had similar experiences where their beloved childhood memories were systematically destroyed. I don't think it would have been on a scale such as this given how global entertainment is now when compared to my parent's generation. However, seeing some of the terrible films that get made off of things like "Get Smart" and "I dream of Genie" I guess there is a precedence.
people need to start voting with thier wallets, after the butchering of the transformer series the turtles are next. This is only bad badddddddddddddddd news of which terrible terrible damage will be done.
Can this guy stop making movies with loads of special effects just so he can see how much of a flop his movies are. GAWD
Removing the mutagen / ooze seems like a brilliant fucking idea. Oh wait, it's the reason there's even a plotline in the first place. Well i guess they must be some kind of aliens then, who just happen to look like turtles. And if they evolved enough to have them travel through interplanetary space, it would make a great deal of sense to have them live in the sewers of NY. Oh wait, if they're really aliens we can't even have splinter can we? I guess we dont need some zen master ninja legend in this movie, cuz we all know Bay will do such a bang up job anyway.
On another note, stop whining about your memories being destroyed. Your memories are still your memories even if some dipshit decides to make a remake of it. And unlike most of you, i actually tried to watch turtles again a few months ago and it wasnt that good. I loved it as a kid and will always treasure it, but people grow up and move on. The amazing times you had, will always be that, but what happens to the series 15-20 years later really shouldnt matter that much.
And this will always be the most amazing theme ever!
I am going to bring my Grandson to a public place with Mr. Bay and tell my grandson I will buy him w/e he wants if he runs up to this guy and kicks him in the nuts as hard as he can. Mean? or Justified?
Meh, as bad as Bay is, the writers for these movies are far worse for writing such literary garbage.
Things to expect: -Heroes getting out of vehicles under a sunset backdrop. -Overuse of dramatic slow motion panning shots. -Juvenile humor with the annoying as fuck comedy relief characters -A story that has nothing to do with Ninja Turtles -Posters of Bay's previous "works"
Making them Alien kind of makes them more unrealistic to me.....Mutant turtles, well that makes more sense to me than Aliens.
Oh well, i for one am happy new technology is going to be used on an old loveable childhood movie. All be it he might of ruined it, atleast we get to see it.....
Wouldn't it just be easier to keep with the mutant instead of switching it to aliens? I can't imagine it be any easier to explain their origin as aliens rather than just mutants. Michael Bay must also have realized that he just retconned a huge portion of people's childhood here, something that could have easily been avoided and surely wouldn't have been met with a positive response in the first place.
I'm locking myself in a bunker with my Secret of the Ooze movie, tons of recorded cartoon tapes, and a box of old turtles toys I'm sure my mom still has in her attic somewhere. There, my childhood will be safe...
I would love to see Christopher Nolan remake TMNT. The TMNT generation are all adults now and I would love to see Nolan do the same thing to it that he did to Batman.
On March 20 2012 20:07 MayorITC wrote: I would love to see Christopher Nolan remake TMNT. The TMNT generation are all adults now and I would love to see Nolan do the same thing to it that he did to Batman.
So much potential between Leonardo, Raphael, and Donatello. Michelangelo would definitely seem like he would be killed off, but then Donatello dies instead. More tension between Leo and Ralph. D:
On March 20 2012 20:07 MayorITC wrote: I would love to see Christopher Nolan remake TMNT. The TMNT generation are all adults now and I would love to see Nolan do the same thing to it that he did to Batman.
So much potential between Leonardo, Raphael, and Donatello. Michelangelo would definitely seem like he would be killed off, but then Donatello dies instead. More tension between Leo and Ralph. D:
Aliens? Why man? Did spider man become a alien do fit the big screen? or maybe batman?
Hell no.. i won't see this movie. This is bullshit man..
The turtles were messing around in a pond with toxic waste and they became teenage mutant turtles and splinter tought them the ninja stuff.. you don't change that because it's allready "original" (remember this is from the 80s)
The aliens are the bad guys (the brain) etc..
don't mess with the turtles.. it's a great story like it is..
Wait, what, someone please tell me this is a bad joke :<. Alien ninja turtles WHAT, I tought we saw the last of alien abuse in the 4th Indiana Jones movie. This is just too cruel.
On March 20 2012 12:50 IntoTheWow wrote: why. WHY. WHY.
because thats how michael bay works. You want him not to ruin your childhood, and then he does it anyway. can someone change the title of the thread from alien to mutant? its driving me crazy.
On March 20 2012 20:28 KadaverBB wrote: I can actually feel my childhood dying....
wait for it,
yup its dead.
Congratulations! Now, you are a man.
on topic: ffffffffuck if the turtles were never mutated, how can they be ninjas? Are we going to have 10cm turtles fighting badgers in outerspace? T_T
i dont even wanna know how they explain it. does that mean there will be a whole planet of turtle and rat guys which somehow are ninjas? i mean... god i dont even wanna think about that.
Im worried about how he says completely lovable too... if that means they are going to be anything like those two stupid robots in TF2, then this movie is going to be absolutely horrible.
Ah can't wait to see that ! He is the best director known to the world. This mutant story was so unrealistic, aliens fits so well in any story (see indiana jones, the best is clearly the one involving aliens), he's right to step on the original story (who knows it anyway, I bet noone here watched more than 2 eposiodes/read more than 10 pages of nija turtles).
Ps : Hope he will remake superman as a mutant, the alien story is BS...
jk, but still you guys should stop with these "it used to be that way, so i am very sad if it changes even though i could just not watch it and memorize it like it used to be"
On March 20 2012 22:03 Mattchew wrote: heres the thing, you don't have to see it.
and it could be good, the first transformers was the bee's knees
Yeah i don't have to see it, but because Michael Bay is making a reboot it lessens the chance of a director that i would think could do a better job, like Christopher Nolan, Alex Proyas, or Robert Rodriguez, from doing a reboot within the next 5-10 years. So now i have little hope that i will ever see another good version of TMNT until i'm in my mid 30s. The original live action movies were amusing and goofy, but with real dark sides as well as they coped with being half humans. As aliens the turtles will lose the emotional aspect and the relatability of being human. This is bullshit and i hope it fails miserably so there will not be a sequel to TANT, which i will now refer to as TAiNT for how close this will be to a piece of shit.
On March 20 2012 23:56 Jukulmolder wrote: i wonder, how is he gonna put in all the explosions he usually does? ninja turtles didn't use many fireworks
He's not sticking to the main premise of their origins, do you think that will stop him from adding big explosions?
Fuck, I am royally pissed at this. Might as well call it Ninja Aliens. I do not understand why does this have to be TMNT. To attract fans? because it's actually doing the opposite.
I don't get it. So they are alien turtles in the movie, whats the big deal? I have no idea why people react like this and all you guys say is "no, fuck you, it sucks etc".
People complaining that a franchise they do not own, or have had no part ever creating is turned into something they do not like.
People should not have right to do this.
Also I would could bet 10€ againt 2€ that this movie is going to be much better than any of the original life action TMNT movies. Watch those and you will predict the same.
Don't go watch this freaking train wreck, that is ALL you can do to "counter" or "Boycott" this horrible horrible idea to completely fuck up TMNT. I haven't paid a DIME to go watch any of his transformers movies and i haven't even downloaded them, fuck this guy and his shitty movies.
For the people saying its "OK" no it isnt, have you ever watched or heard of the story of the TMNT? if you haven't stfu and if u did and u think this is ok you're just dumb -_- sorry. The whole point of the story is that they come from a pet store where splinter trained them etc etc and then they came in touch with some mutagen thing etc. How could they be aliens? T_T.
On March 21 2012 01:40 TanKLoveR wrote: Don't go watch this freaking train wreck, that is ALL you can do to "counter" or "Boycott" this horrible horrible idea to completely fuck up TMNT. I haven't paid a DIME to go watch any of his transformers movies and i haven't even downloaded them, fuck this guy and his shitty movies.
For the people saying its "OK" no it isnt, have you ever watched or heard of the story of the TMNT? if you haven't stfu and if u did and u think this is ok you're just dumb -_- sorry. The whole point of the story is that they come from a pet store where splinter trained them etc etc and then they came in touch with some mutagen thing etc. How could they be aliens? T_T.
exactly, at least he kept the transformer story pretty much the same he didnt turn the transformers into mutated cars so why turn the turtles into aliens?
A remake of the old movie wouldn't have bothered me, but this is silly. And i'm not an anti michael bay, since I liked the transformers (first 2 at least, third is weird...).
On March 21 2012 01:40 TanKLoveR wrote: Don't go watch this freaking train wreck, that is ALL you can do to "counter" or "Boycott" this horrible horrible idea to completely fuck up TMNT. I haven't paid a DIME to go watch any of his transformers movies and i haven't even downloaded them, fuck this guy and his shitty movies.
For the people saying its "OK" no it isnt, have you ever watched or heard of the story of the TMNT? if you haven't stfu and if u did and u think this is ok you're just dumb -_- sorry. The whole point of the story is that they come from a pet store where splinter trained them etc etc and then they came in touch with some mutagen thing etc. How could they be aliens? T_T.
Definitely man I agree 100%. Even If you want to change the story to them being alien, then they are not turtles....they would be a alien race that looks similar to what earth turtles look like???
The first movie I saw in the movie theater was the TMNT live action back in '90. To this day, I love the shit out of that movie.
This is the worst news ever! From TMNT -> TANT? I am not exactly an anti michael bay person; however, messing with the very core of the TMNT is beyond ridiculous. No Ooze anymore? What about splinter? Is he from the same planet as the turtles? Or is he just from the rat planet?
Just so we are all on the same page. In the original ninja turtles, the race that krane was ,created the ooZe that transformed the turtles. So if they take that route im fine with it. Seeing as how the original live action movies bastardiZed the original story as it was. But if they crash land on earth in a tmnt style space ship, ya I'll be pissed
On March 21 2012 02:51 Arkless wrote: Just so we are all on the same page. In the original ninja turtles, the race that krane was ,created the ooZe that transformed the turtles. So if they take that route im fine with it. Seeing as how the original live action movies bastardiZed the original story as it was. But if they crash land on earth in a tmnt style space ship, ya I'll be pissed
theyll probably come to earth becuase there home plant of turtletron was destroyed
Are you kidding me, Michael Bay? First you bastardize Transformers...and now you...wow...
These cartoons were freaking part of our childhoods. Sigh, you know the saddest part of all this? The viewer base that he's targeting...they will never know what the Turtles used to be...they would have had no idea of how things were for us...
The cartoon series...the toys...the characters...the live action movies(OK the last one sucked, but the first one sorta rocked, and the second one was so-so). Not the mention the Arcade and SNES games...remember Turtles in Time?
I'm NOT bringing my kid to see Michael Bay's bastardized version.
I made my peace with the Transformers movies. At least they had Optimus/Megatron and lots of Action with huge Robots from Cybertron. But come on they are Mutant and why change Splinters name ???
And i gotta agree with D_K_night - maybe one day people think Turtles originally come from space. That would be ...........
Why do they have to ruin all those classic things from childhood
I seriously couldn't believe this when I heard it.
I think my friend on Facebook summed up my sentiments. (I thought this was hilarious) + Show Spoiler +
Dear Michael Bay, I hope you know that it's called "Teenage MUTANT Ninja Turtles" not "Teenage Alien Ninja Turtles"!!!! Your welcome JACKASS!!!! D:<!!! Ps: drop out being director of the new Teenage MUTANT Ninja Turtles movie!!! From: ------ aka die hardcore TMNT fan since the day he was born!!!!!!!!!
More seriously, WHY??????? WHY???????????????????? It doesn't need to be aliens. I wouldn't care at all if it was Mutant's and bad but he has changed the concept itself.
When I was a kid we would make super plans with friends about stealing sewer system plans somewhere, moving there, eating pizza and fighting criminals. Do not take this memories away from me pls...
A lot of dramatic complaints and unfunny quips. I didn't realize people were that passionate about the ninja turtles.
On March 21 2012 01:25 Sea_Food wrote: I would could bet 10€ againt 2€ that this movie is going to be much better than any of the original life action TMNT movies. Watch those and you will predict the same.
That's true. Live action versions to date have been terrible.
On March 21 2012 01:25 Sea_Food wrote: People complaining that a franchise they do not own, or have had no part ever creating is turned into something they do not like.
It's not like their name doesn't convey enough backstory. I suppose it would be to much to ask for a name change then.
Teenage Alien Amphibious Samurai. Maybe on the run from Predators on a ship filled with clones of the Alien 4 WTF-ever it was. During the anti-climax Peter and the Chicken cause total chaos enabling the turtles to escape and make commercials till the even snarkier sequel which will be animated and feature wow-panda's, cause hell, can't get enough Panda, can ya
On March 21 2012 03:58 Slow Motion wrote: I bet Michael Bay will do a Dragonball movie next where Goku is a mutated monkey from the sewers.
Still better than Dragon ball: Evolution.
the teamfourstar rifftrax fixed that :D
on topic: Personally I'm fed up with Hollywood making movies that they know will have high interest due to nostalgic sentiments only to change key elements. It ruins it for me. If they kept to the turtles being mutants I would have seriously thought about buying a cinematicket (eventhough Michael Bay has raped my childhood already with Transformers)
Instead of eating pizza they should drink Four Lokos and smoke flavored cigarettes. They should also make their weapons laser swords and laser numchucks, etc. Also...every alien turtle now needs a female counterpart.
If talking shark-looking things came from space, would we call them "mutant sharks" even though they aren't mutants or related to sharks in any fucking way?
This is just incredibly stupid. It's not just that the concept is idiotic, it's that these blockbuster Hollywood types think that they can insult our intelligence so easily. How could any movie exec think, "Yeah, this will make the fans love it."
I agree that we should alll @#$% michael Bay and that this movie is a terrible idea.
But i still thinks that this movie will be a hit, simply because of the kids. They will watch basicly anything that gets advetised right, and big companies know to exploit this. I saw this trend (at least in my country) on the transformer movies, avatar, etc. Most of the viewers were children. They will watch it because thats what the commercials and their friends tell them too
And many of these kids really dont give a shit about anyone over 20's opinion on that michael bay is butchering their cartoons, because they have not seen them, and it is old for them. Many of these precious childhood memories are not great because of their quality (some are though), but because they are childhood memories that we think of as good.
Because of this i think that no matter how outraged old school tmnt fans are, the filmmakers will not care, since they have a whole new generation too entertain and take hard earned allowances from :D
I read some wikipedia and I am confused - are we angry at them because they are changing it from the comic where they murdered innocent ninjas or from the TV show with robots'n'stuff.
Michael Bay is just so bad To hear that the amazing Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles that everyone loves so much will be disgraced by this guy makes my heart sadden...
Michael Bay needs to take his millions and buy a nice big yacht and go off on a cruise to the South Pacific and never return.
In other words, he needs to find R'lyeh and get fucking eaten by Cthulhu. Who will politely inform Michael what a REAL alien is before he devours his soul.
OMG! I have so many memories of the Turtles as a kid (i am 26 now) from the video games to the 2 amazing movies. Why do these rich people have to need to ruin everything?
Why? Sure the series may have hit hard times since the last time i watched them but they are still an important part of the working classes childhood. Whats next? Flintstones, Jetsons?
BTW i think this will be the plot of the movie: The alien turtles must stop the evil vampires from using zombies to win a war against werewolves....than it turns out that shredder is also a zombie!
On March 21 2012 08:51 nooboon wrote: Why? Sure the series may have hit hard times since the last time i watched them but they are still an important part of the working classes childhood. Whats next? Flintstones, Jetsons?
BTW i think this will be the plot of the movie: The alien turtles must stop the evil vampires from using zombies to win a war against werewolves....than it turns out that shredder is also a zombie!
Guys, come on. Bay needs fluff for Transformers 4. Why not have the Ninja Turtles create the Transformers in this new Hasbro dimension? 'sides, Donatello kinda sounds like Optimus Prime...
Bad movies or not, everyone in Hollywood knows Aliens = $$$$$!
Besides, they've already made three TMNT movies... Let Mr. Bay molest the original concept, it won't ruin my memories nor will I see it so I don't see why we should give a shit.
No... Why does ninja turtles have to turn into a 2 hour over sexualized unfunny movie filled with explosions? To bad another great series got ruin by Bay. Well RIP TMNT we will always remember you before Bay ruined you.
On March 21 2012 08:16 DeepElemBlues wrote: No no no no no no no no no.
No.
NO.
Michael Bay needs to take his millions and buy a nice big yacht and go off on a cruise to the South Pacific and never return.
In other words, he needs to find R'lyeh and get fucking eaten by Cthulhu. Who will politely inform Michael what a REAL alien is before he devours his soul.
another reason i love this site, you can seriously say that someone should get eaten by Cthulu and noone will ever think its wierd
if michael bay is gonna do this, he has to make it as non-original as possible, rip off as much stuff from the show and games and comics and movies and everything turtle and try to recreate that, thats what we want we want Turtles but in cool graphics not michael bays take on wha turtles are
On March 21 2012 11:36 mnesthes wrote: I'm totally calling April O'Neil to be blonde and wears a white tank top designed for maximum cleavage camera shots
hmmm
white tank top amphibious main characters
you might be on to something
i mean with all hes doing to the franchise it would actually help it to slap an 18A on it
When is this man going to get banned from making movies?
I say that because he has recently ruined the Nightmare on Elm Street series, the Friday the 13th series, made garbage like Transformers 2 and 3...and now he's going to ruin TMNT...
FUCK. THE. SYSTEM. why does it have to create shit remakes to make money when their are so many good indie films that could make millions just waiting to be produced over this crap -_-.
On March 21 2012 08:51 nooboon wrote: Why? Sure the series may have hit hard times since the last time i watched them but they are still an important part of the working classes childhood. Whats next? Flintstones, Jetsons?
BTW i think this will be the plot of the movie: The alien turtles must stop the evil vampires from using zombies to win a war against werewolves....than it turns out that shredder is also a zombie!
On March 21 2012 13:52 plogamer wrote: The US does have 'Alien' Resident Cards. Maybe they're mutant immigrants. I mean, we all know that Master Splinter is Japanese. lawl
The Turtles are Mexican Immigrants. Directed by M Night Shamblahblah
On March 21 2012 13:52 plogamer wrote: The US does have 'Alien' Resident Cards. Maybe they're mutant immigrants. I mean, we all know that Master Splinter is Japanese. lawl
The Turtles are Mexican Immigrants. Directed by M Night Shamblahblah
Their signature dish will be tacos instead of pizzas.
... My only fucking gripe about this is hes changing their origins, if he just kept them mutants like they should be I'd be okay hes milking the turtles.
On March 21 2012 10:55 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Bad movies or not, everyone in Hollywood knows Aliens = $$$$$!
Besides, they've already made three TMNT movies... Let Mr. Bay molest the original concept, it won't ruin my memories nor will I see it so I don't see why we should give a shit.
Might as well make them vampires while they're at it. Teenage alien ninja vampires gogo print money!
Such terrible news. Why must they stomp all over our childhood =/
Why and the fuck do they have to be aliens? This is a bunch of horseshit, someone needs to go down to the studio and kick Micheal Bay's ass. Also, fuck whomever allowed that asshole to get the rights to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle franchise.
On March 20 2012 12:55 HawaiianPig wrote: This is the worst news I've heard all year
amen.
Good thing I never actually saw Transformers 2 & 3.
You should have seen Transformer 3. The animation was amongst some of the best I've ever seen and it was quite entertaining. The dialogue and plot of the story was fucking retarded but the graphics were tight.
Also, TANT is extremely stupid. Space Turtles? lmao! Bay should really lay off the crack and focus more on the fanbase and remake the original story. However, Cowboys vs Aliens wasn't too bad lol I thought it was going to be a lot worst then what it was judging from the movies title.
On March 21 2012 19:15 Appendix wrote: Prepare for long scenes of April O'Neil running in slow motion.
As long as they pick somebody who's bra can supports two midgets in that tight yellow spandex suit that's reason enough to go get me to see the movie lolz.
Thats fucking ridiculous!!!! Not only that they do only shitty new stuff, now they need to screw up the good old stuff! OMG Really I hate them for that.... They just want to make quick money and that's it!!
I sent a letter to Mr. Bay already, urging him to swap turtles to crocodiles or something more awesome like that. Also I told him that ninjas are an 80's thing & therefore seriously uncool (understandable mistake, as he is old) and so he should consider making them either samurais, mongols, hackapelites, vikings, etc,.. The TMNT habit of eating pizza could be seen as a bad example for the young kids, therefore I also suggested that he would emphasize in the movie that pizza is indeed a vegetable.
On March 20 2012 12:32 Timurid wrote: WTF he is changing their names too?!?!?!?!?!? no splinter?!?!?!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What do you say to this shit? I mean, this is just off the charts stupid and downright hateful of him.
Perhaps he got so much flak from people who felt their childhoods were sollied from his tranformers monstrosities that he now feels he has to destroy everything they ever loved? Is Michael Bay evil incarnate?
This feels worse than when my grandmother died. I am sitting hear almost in tears. Fuck you michael bay, fuck you.
and also don't we know the origin of TMNT anyways. Weren't they born then walked into some toxic slime, or nuclear waste? I have not seen TMNT since I was a child so I don't remember much.
He can do what he wants and I don't care. It's just his own take on the turtles I don't have to think about the turtles his way when I think about them. I think about the crazy cartoon, the old action figures, and the first 2 movies.
I'll be honest, I was outraged, until I saw that woman. Does she eat? sometimes? every now and then? Geez I seriously forgot to care about the turtles thing over her. Maybe she got mutated to survive without food and so does embrace the idea of mutations rather then alien origin. Or maybe shes even scared she might get (pun inc) alienated. Haha such a fun day
Upon reading "Teenage Alien ninja turtles." I tried to think of a worse idea as hard as I could. Shaft being played by the whitest dude I could imagine fell short. I don't think many childhood dreams centered around shaft at any point, but TMNT?? OH man, I compared people to ninja turtles to gauge their personality. From carefree/laid back to steadfast leader, or from mustang rebel to intelligent, well-meaning follower. You all know who's who.
Also, how the fuck does splinter or shredder even enter into this? And Shredder trying to harness the power of the ooze? What now? I'm guessing Shredder is just some rich guy in a suit who knows Karate, and he hears about the aliens, and then tries to harness whatever power they have. Splinter probably won't even be in it cause some dumbfuck writing it thought having him and Leonardo would be redundant. Leo can't control Rapheal, common knowledge. Splinter is the crux to the build, no splinter in TMNT is like no Warp research in a 4 Gate timing.
April will likely see the turtles "Human" side in a highly circumstantial event, then it's totally bffs from there. You will hear "Cowabunga" maybe twice, and no other surfing references. Casey Jones will probably be in it again, even though he doesn't deserve to be in so many TMNT movies. Miyamoto Usagi (Yeah I had to look it up) commonly known as the Samurai rabbit could use some show time. As much as I wanna see Rapheal be more of a rebel than Casey jones, I wanna see Leo step up to Samurai rabbit as a leader and swordsman.
This is especially bad for me because I just watched the original 1990 TMNT film, which is GREAT, by the way. The soundtrack, costumes, even the fucking jokes are pretty good, or at least that's what my nostalgia is asking me to write. Look, it seems like Michael Bay has the destruction of my childhood all planned out, so who am I to get in the way?
I'd like to point out, not only aren't they mutants, if they are aliens they are also not really turtles, and certainly not trained as ninjas. Do we even have confirmation of their age?
WTF!? Why change a recipe that has worked since 1984??? The are MUTANT turtles! NOT alien! GEEZ! Someone take out this guy already before he goes any further! I'm gonna just watch the 1987 and 2003 cartoons to stick it to that bastard. Teenage MUTANT Ninja Turtles 4 LIFE!!!
I don't get all the hate. GI JOE the movie had a completely different origin story but it was still a great movie. And if you thought it was a bad movie, it probably had more to do with actual movie flaws and not because of the change in origin.
I'll never watch this movie, I prefere to hang on on my nostalgia of the 90's cartoons and movie. Can this mofo has the right to do this ? Can I make a movie about an alien called mickey mouse ?
On March 23 2012 22:50 Diks wrote: Michael Bay should go to jail.
I'll never watch this movie, I prefere to hang on on my nostalgia of the 90's cartoons and movie. Can this mofo has the right to do this ? Can I make a movie about an alien called mickey mouse ?
If you get permission from disney to do so, yeah. Micheal Bay got permission to make this film from whoever owns the rights to TMNT, so...
I think Micheal Bay is just a gigantic troll. He destroyed the Transformers films, and now he's moving onto TMNT. WHATS NEXT, MIKE?! IS NOTHING SACRED?!
I just read Michael Bay is only producing the movie and that TMNT: Secret of the Ooze originally had the ooze come from an alien race called Ultrom. Krang is loosely based on the Ultrom from the original TMNT comics too.
On March 25 2012 17:08 Hokay wrote: I just read Michael Bay is only producing the movie and that TMNT: Secret of the Ooze originally had the ooze come from an alien race called Ultrom. Krang is loosely based on the Ultrom from the original TMNT comics too.
I really don't know if I am going to believe that the ooze came from another planet and 'mutated' them into the TMNT thus the term 'Mutants'. So that doesn't really make them aliens. So, why the fuck did he announce in the first place that they were aliens?|
Ooze = Teh Cubez Turtles = Home Appliances and Earthly Machines
I personally really enjoyed Transformers. I guess I never really followed the cartoon/story close enough to be upset. But Ninja Turtles had a huge place in my childhood. Don't fuck this up Mr. Bay!
On March 25 2012 23:38 Makavillin wrote: I personally really enjoyed Transformers. I guess I never really followed the cartoon/story close enough to be upset. But Ninja Turtles had a huge place in my childhood. Don't fuck this up Mr. Bay!
I wasn't a Huge transformers fan growing up... Watched a shit ton of beast wars but that was about it.. and I still hated the 2-3 transformers movies... from a cinematic standpoint they were just terrible.. A barrage of special effects explosions and slow mo cleavage does not a good movie make...
On March 25 2012 17:08 Hokay wrote: I just read Michael Bay is only producing the movie and that TMNT: Secret of the Ooze originally had the ooze come from an alien race called Ultrom. Krang is loosely based on the Ultrom from the original TMNT comics too.
Well after reading this, it does sound like they (Michael Bay and Director) both want the story to be authentic. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
I read the bloody and violent comics, I never understood the show although I did watch it for humor value. I think my favorite memories are the TMNT arcade game and the nigh impossible TMNT for the nintendo. The movies were cheesy laughter for me so Im not highly offended by this.
Now if a movie was like the darkhorse stuff I would be fully happy, as it stands Im sure I will watch for entertainment and nothing more.
This has the potential for being as detrimental to the TMNT series as the movie Mario Bros. to the Super Mario franchise. We can at least accept that there will most likely be a lot of explosions in the movie.
I watched for the first time Transformers 3 and man... I was utterly disgusted. The scene transitions and randomness of the entire movie, as well as the actresses clothes going from dirty to clean, back to dirt and then clean. It horrifies me what may happen to the franchise.
On March 28 2012 02:18 Seldentar wrote: How exactly is he able to do this even though it is well known that everyone hates what Michael Bay is trying to do with the series?
You would think a director that unpopular with the masses would never be allowed to make movies...
Because people will still see it, and it will still generate money.
I'm going to imagine that there's something going on here that I don't understand. Maybe underneath the hills of the Hollywood sign there's some kind of Cthulhu-like diety that awakens every 2-3 years during the summer and demands that a franchise be sacrficed to it or it will feed upon the San Andreas fault line and sink California into the sea. Perhaps Micheal Bay is a sort of High Inquisitor whose calling in life is to appease this crap-hungry monster in order to prevent the movie industry from being destroyed.
Perhaps the next time the Crap-Hungry Monster awakes, it will be extra hungry and demand more than it's usual share of sacrifical franchises. Perhaps it will take a great hero, maybe four or five of them, green-bellied shit-balls from fucking outer space, named after Renaissance artists, that's right, fucking Renaissance artists to do battle against the Great Crap Monster, aka Crapator, or maybe, if female, Crapella, and maybe the whole cast of South Park gets thrown into the mix, because, well, why not, they've done this before...
And of course everything will be green and shitty and get crap all over it, but maybe for a few summers we won't have to worry about this sort of thing.
...aand now it's apparently been changed to just Ninja Turtles, you know, the two descriptors that have definitively terrestrial origins. Where's the Picard meme when you need it...
I'm betting there will be a scene in this movie after the "alien" Turtles have been introduced to pizza where the turtles want to be "taken to your leader" and Michaelangelo thinks the leader of humanity is the night manager of the local Domino's.
On March 28 2012 02:41 Ashakyre wrote: I'm going to imagine that there's something going on here that I don't understand. Maybe underneath the hills of the Hollywood sign there's some kind of Cthulhu-like diety that awakens every 2-3 years during the summer and demands that a franchise be sacrficed to it or it will feed upon the San Andreas fault line and sink California into the sea. Perhaps Micheal Bay is a sort of High Inquisitor whose calling in life is to appease this crap-hungry monster in order to prevent the movie industry from being destroyed.
Perhaps the next time the Crap-Hungry Monster awakes, it will be extra hungry and demand more than it's usual share of sacrifical franchises. Perhaps it will take a great hero, maybe four or five of them, green-bellied shit-balls from fucking outer space, named after Renaissance artists, that's right, fucking Renaissance artists to do battle against the Great Crap Monster, aka Crapator, or maybe, if female, Crapella, and maybe the whole cast of South Park gets thrown into the mix, because, well, why not, they've done this before...
And of course everything will be green and shitty and get crap all over it, but maybe for a few summers we won't have to worry about this sort of thing.
Hmm, "Offerings To Crapator". I would watch that movie
what i will not watch is the new teenage mutant alien ninja turtles movie because i would like my childhood to remain intact. However i think i can live with the goo being from outer space. If that is the case maybe i'll reconcider.
Wtf. Everyone knows the turtles are actually mutants. They were small regular turtles at first but then they got flushed down the sewers with radioactive waste! Obviously they transformed to mutants then. There was a rat down in the sewers too that got hit by the radioactive waste and so he mutated too. When that happened he remembered watching his former owner do Ninjutsu training and thus he became a master at it and decided to train the turtles!
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles fans who decried Michael Bay's plans to put an alien spin on the turtle origins, you may have just gotten your wish to see the characters left alone granted. And then some.
The Hollywood Reporter has broken word that the upcoming, live action, big screen reboot of the popular characters has been shut down, with Paramount pulling the plug and laying off the Vancouver based staff who had already been hard at work on pre-production. At issue, apparently, is a script that the studio had no confidence in. Will the Jonathan Liebesman directed film be able to rebound? It has happened in these circumstances before but, more often than not, when projects get shut down like this they stay shut down.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles fans who decried Michael Bay's plans to put an alien spin on the turtle origins, you may have just gotten your wish to see the characters left alone granted. And then some.
The Hollywood Reporter has broken word that the upcoming, live action, big screen reboot of the popular characters has been shut down, with Paramount pulling the plug and laying off the Vancouver based staff who had already been hard at work on pre-production. At issue, apparently, is a script that the studio had no confidence in. Will the Jonathan Liebesman directed film be able to rebound? It has happened in these circumstances before but, more often than not, when projects get shut down like this they stay shut down.
Source: TwitchFilm.com
I'm glad they shot the project down.
Yeah, I was just about to shoot myself down when I saw this thread bumbed
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles fans who decried Michael Bay's plans to put an alien spin on the turtle origins, you may have just gotten your wish to see the characters left alone granted. And then some.
The Hollywood Reporter has broken word that the upcoming, live action, big screen reboot of the popular characters has been shut down, with Paramount pulling the plug and laying off the Vancouver based staff who had already been hard at work on pre-production. At issue, apparently, is a script that the studio had no confidence in. Will the Jonathan Liebesman directed film be able to rebound? It has happened in these circumstances before but, more often than not, when projects get shut down like this they stay shut down.
I don't get what all the ranting is about. If you don't like it, don't watch it. And judging a film before watching it (or the trailer for that matter) isn't very mature.
On June 17 2012 19:55 sharky246 wrote: I don't get what all the ranting is about. If you don't like it, don't watch it. And judging a film before watching it (or the trailer for that matter) isn't very mature.
Because the premise of this movie is ruining many MANY people's nostalgic childhood. It basically destroys the entire premise as it changed the many key aspects of what made the original great. That along is enough for critics to judge it before seeing it.
What was the original premise? I seem to remember it was that a kid who had been given pet turtles flushed them down the toilet, and they came into contact with radioactive waste, mutating and getting 'attitude' as well as the ability to speak American English. Then they came into contact with an old rat master who had also mutated through radioactive contact, who taught them martial arts.
No idea how Donatello ended up with an ability to 'do machines'.
On June 17 2012 19:55 sharky246 wrote: I don't get what all the ranting is about. If you don't like it, don't watch it. And judging a film before watching it (or the trailer for that matter) isn't very mature.
Because the premise of this movie is ruining many MANY people's nostalgic childhood. It basically destroys the entire premise as it changed the many key aspects of what made the original great. That along is enough for critics to judge it before seeing it.
ruining peoples nostalgic childhood? you mad bro? since when has shit turtles ever been something to be nostalgic about? even as a child i couldnt believe how pathetic the show was and how the characters look. i mean seriously, talking turtles that use nunchuks and shit?
ruining peoples nostalgic childhood? you mad bro? since when has shit turtles ever been something to be nostalgic about? even as a child i couldnt believe how pathetic the show was and how the characters look. i mean seriously, talking turtles that use nunchuks and shit?
You sound like a really sad person. I'm sorry about whatever made you this way. Chin up, life will get better I promise.
On June 18 2012 00:25 Ashakyre wrote: While I'm glad the Ninja Turtles are safe for now, Michael Bay will continue to look for a franchise to sacrifice to the evil god Crapator.
I'm concerned for the well-being of Thundercats...
I'm pretty sure they cancelled the Thundercats movie as well, so we're safe for now...
I don't know if this should be on a different thread or something, but there's a gritty, violent TMNT project named "Dawn of the Ninja" it already has two chapters and is beautiful and extremely violent... for anyone interested in checking it out and supporting the artists, check em out here... there's 53 pages already up
So the script for Michael Bay's upcoming Ninja Turtles movie has leaked and as expected, it's not good.
Originally Posted by cinemablend.com In short, despite Bay's claims that the turtles would be "exactly the same" as the ones many of us loved as kids, they are now aliens destined to presumably fight a great evil in the form of Colonel Schrader. There's no mention made of their sensei and father figure Splinter at all. (I guess rat aliens aren't edgy?) And Casey Jones and April O'Neil are two bickering high school sweethearts. But beyond all this, it seems they've also swapped the personalities of the turtles, attempting to make the typically brooding Raphael into the jokester Michelangelo was known as, and not much of one at that.
But I'm sure there will be plenty of explosions. Huge, glorious, explosions.
Originally Posted by cinemabland In short, despite Bay's claims that the turtles would be "exactly the same" as the ones many of us loved as kids, they are now aliens destined to presumably fight a great evil in the form of Colonel Schrader. There's no mention made of their sensei and father figure Splinter at all. (I guess rat aliens aren't edgy?) And Casey Jones and April O'Neil are two bickering high school sweethearts. But beyond all this, it seems they've also swapped the personalities of the turtles, attempting to make the typically brooding Raphael into the jokester Michelangelo was known as, and not much of one at that.
Gah, is there a topic he can't make terrible? Welp here comes another movie that makes a big enough profit to get a sequel, and then just gets worse from there.
On August 30 2012 06:26 Obscure wrote: So the script for Michael Bay's upcoming Ninja Turtles movie has leaked and as expected, it's not good.
Originally Posted by cinemabland In short, despite Bay's claims that the turtles would be "exactly the same" as the ones many of us loved as kids, they are now aliens destined to presumably fight a great evil in the form of Colonel Schrader. There's no mention made of their sensei and father figure Splinter at all. (I guess rat aliens aren't edgy?) And Casey Jones and April O'Neil are two bickering high school sweethearts. But beyond all this, it seems they've also swapped the personalities of the turtles, attempting to make the typically brooding Raphael into the jokester Michelangelo was known as, and not much of one at that.
Gah, is there a topic he can't make terrible? Welp here comes another movie that makes a big enough profit to get a sequel, and then just gets worse from there.
And Hollywood gets richer by shitting all over my childhood T.T Transformers, Dragon ball Z and now this.... On the bright side, it can't get any worse can it?
On August 01 2012 05:35 sjperera wrote: I don't know if this should be on a different thread or something, but there's a gritty, violent TMNT project named "Dawn of the Ninja" it already has two chapters and is beautiful and extremely violent... for anyone interested in checking it out and supporting the artists, check em out here... there's 53 pages already up
Yo, this is Luke Keith. I'm the guy responsible for that TMNT graphic novel, I also happen to be a HUGE Sc2 fan!!! I'm absolutely thrilled that our project would be mentioned on the forum of the greatest Sc2 clan in the world! I absolutely love Team Liquid, I watch all the videos, so you can imagine my excitement when you discovered our TMNT graphic novel =).
Please feel free to continue talking about our project as much as you can. Maybe I can even put together some special Sc2 meets TMNT artwork at some point.... between Sc2 and TMNT, I'm not sure which I like more =).
On August 01 2012 05:35 sjperera wrote: I don't know if this should be on a different thread or something, but there's a gritty, violent TMNT project named "Dawn of the Ninja" it already has two chapters and is beautiful and extremely violent... for anyone interested in checking it out and supporting the artists, check em out here... there's 53 pages already up
Yo, this is Luke Keith. I'm the guy responsible for that TMNT graphic novel, I also happen to be a HUGE Sc2 fan!!! I'm absolutely thrilled that our project would be mentioned on the forum of the greatest Sc2 clan in the world! I absolutely love Team Liquid, I watch all the videos, so you can imagine my excitement when you discovered our TMNT graphic novel =).
Please feel free to continue talking about our project as much as you can. Maybe I can even put together some special Sc2 meets TMNT artwork at some point.... between Sc2 and TMNT, I'm not sure which I like more =).
Thanks!
This better not be a troll. You better not be a troll.
'Cause the artwork in that novel completely fits the style of SC2......................
On August 01 2012 05:35 sjperera wrote: I don't know if this should be on a different thread or something, but there's a gritty, violent TMNT project named "Dawn of the Ninja" it already has two chapters and is beautiful and extremely violent... for anyone interested in checking it out and supporting the artists, check em out here... there's 53 pages already up
Yo, this is Luke Keith. I'm the guy responsible for that TMNT graphic novel, I also happen to be a HUGE Sc2 fan!!! I'm absolutely thrilled that our project would be mentioned on the forum of the greatest Sc2 clan in the world! I absolutely love Team Liquid, I watch all the videos, so you can imagine my excitement when you discovered our TMNT graphic novel =).
Please feel free to continue talking about our project as much as you can. Maybe I can even put together some special Sc2 meets TMNT artwork at some point.... between Sc2 and TMNT, I'm not sure which I like more =).
Thanks!
This better not be a troll. You better not be a troll.
'Cause the artwork in that novel completely fits the style of SC2......................
I am definitely not a troll. The artwork is done by Ray Dillon and I'm the producer. I'm also a designer and artist myself, and I must admit the Starcraft UI and game design is very inspirational to me. You may even see traces of it in my personal website (mostly only portfolio page) LukeKeith.com. So yea.... I'm definitely not a troll. I just freaking love TMNT and Sc2!!! Can't help it if I have good taste =). I actually started writing DOTN back in 2005 while stationed over seas in the Air Force after seeing Batman Begins on a base theater... I thought to myself "TMNT needs to be told in a serious and gritty way like this", so Steve and I immediately got to work on the story. I didn't bring Ray and Jeremy on board until 2009 to start development on the graphic novel. The second chapter was supposed to be done two years ago... but Ray is moving quite slow, only a few more pages to go!!!
On August 01 2012 05:35 sjperera wrote: I don't know if this should be on a different thread or something, but there's a gritty, violent TMNT project named "Dawn of the Ninja" it already has two chapters and is beautiful and extremely violent... for anyone interested in checking it out and supporting the artists, check em out here... there's 53 pages already up
Yo, this is Luke Keith. I'm the guy responsible for that TMNT graphic novel, I also happen to be a HUGE Sc2 fan!!! I'm absolutely thrilled that our project would be mentioned on the forum of the greatest Sc2 clan in the world! I absolutely love Team Liquid, I watch all the videos, so you can imagine my excitement when you discovered our TMNT graphic novel =).
Please feel free to continue talking about our project as much as you can. Maybe I can even put together some special Sc2 meets TMNT artwork at some point.... between Sc2 and TMNT, I'm not sure which I like more =).
Thanks!
This better not be a troll. You better not be a troll.
'Cause the artwork in that novel completely fits the style of SC2......................
I am definitely not a troll. The artwork is done by Ray Dillon and I'm the producer. I'm also a designer and artist myself, and I must admit the Starcraft UI and game design is very inspirational to me. You may even see traces of it in my personal website (mostly only portfolio page) LukeKeith.com. So yea.... I'm definitely not a troll. I just freaking love TMNT and Sc2!!! Can't help it if I have good taste =). I actually started writing DOTN back in 2005 while stationed over seas in the Air Force after seeing Batman Begins on a base theater... I thought to myself "TMNT needs to be told in a serious and gritty way like this", so Steve and I immediately got to work on the story. I didn't bring Ray and Jeremy on board until 2009 to start development on the graphic novel. The second chapter was supposed to be done two years ago... but Ray is moving quite slow, only a few more pages to go!!!
Nice art and website you got there. However in my opinion while appearing to be interesting at first, at your portfolio page I found it hard to see your pictures since the screen is so small. I'd prefer to see the picture instead of scrolling around. Same thing goes for the list of pictures in green which only appear if I mouse over it.... You can make it move or something but don't make it disappear >_>
Nice art and website you got there. However in my opinion while appearing to be interesting at first, at your portfolio page I found it hard to see your pictures since the screen is so small. I'd prefer to see the picture instead of scrolling around. Same thing goes for the list of pictures in green which only appear if I mouse over it.... You can make it move or something but don't make it disappear >_>
Hah, I haven't looked at my website in a LONG time. It's definitely not supposed to dissapear when you hover, that's hilarious. Thanks for finding that bug... I changed hosts, which has a different PHP environment that is more strict and has caused a few things to break. Afterall, I wrote that site several years ago. Needless to say, I just need to find the time to fix it =). As for the scrolling around, there is a "download" button which gives you the ability to see the full image... but it is probably about that time I update the functionality a bit. =D
On September 02 2012 09:36 huStl.e wrote: this man is truly america's answer to Uwe Boll... what even worse is people are giving him enough money to keep shitting on everyones childhoods
Correct, I have absolutely zero faith in Michael Bay's ability to deliver. Originally I was hopeful when I heard Eastman was involved in the writing, but I actually believe this was a poor decision. He is too entrenched in the TMNT's past to come up with something truly fresh. We need a new writer and a fresh perspective on the story. That is why we worked so hard to develop Dawn of the Ninja. Unfortunately we are nobodies and nobody cares about nobodies in the movie industry.
On August 30 2012 06:26 Obscure wrote: So the script for Michael Bay's upcoming Ninja Turtles movie has leaked and as expected, it's not good.
Originally Posted by cinemabland In short, despite Bay's claims that the turtles would be "exactly the same" as the ones many of us loved as kids, they are now aliens destined to presumably fight a great evil in the form of Colonel Schrader. There's no mention made of their sensei and father figure Splinter at all. (I guess rat aliens aren't edgy?) And Casey Jones and April O'Neil are two bickering high school sweethearts. But beyond all this, it seems they've also swapped the personalities of the turtles, attempting to make the typically brooding Raphael into the jokester Michelangelo was known as, and not much of one at that.
Gah, is there a topic he can't make terrible? Welp here comes another movie that makes a big enough profit to get a sequel, and then just gets worse from there.
And Hollywood gets richer by shitting all over my childhood T.T Transformers, Dragon ball Z and now this.... On the bright side, it can't get any worse can it?
The Transformers from your childhood was several magnitudes campier than any of the movies, and made a lot less sense.
Dragon Ball Z...well, yeah, the movies were all horrendous garbage. But a movie adaptation that stays faithful to the anime? Once again, pure camp and garbage plot.
And for the people puking over the supposedly leaked TMNT scripts...those lines might as well have come from the cartoon series. Or the 1990's movies.
On August 01 2012 05:35 sjperera wrote: I don't know if this should be on a different thread or something, but there's a gritty, violent TMNT project named "Dawn of the Ninja" it already has two chapters and is beautiful and extremely violent... for anyone interested in checking it out and supporting the artists, check em out here... there's 53 pages already up
This reminded me of another webcomic, http://www.mntgaiden.com. The story is, there's an incident which splits up the turtles and 17 years later a new turtle appears. It's very nitty and gritty and quite fun to read.
On August 30 2012 06:26 Obscure wrote: So the script for Michael Bay's upcoming Ninja Turtles movie has leaked and as expected, it's not good.
Originally Posted by cinemabland In short, despite Bay's claims that the turtles would be "exactly the same" as the ones many of us loved as kids, they are now aliens destined to presumably fight a great evil in the form of Colonel Schrader. There's no mention made of their sensei and father figure Splinter at all. (I guess rat aliens aren't edgy?) And Casey Jones and April O'Neil are two bickering high school sweethearts. But beyond all this, it seems they've also swapped the personalities of the turtles, attempting to make the typically brooding Raphael into the jokester Michelangelo was known as, and not much of one at that.
Gah, is there a topic he can't make terrible? Welp here comes another movie that makes a big enough profit to get a sequel, and then just gets worse from there.
And Hollywood gets richer by shitting all over my childhood T.T Transformers, Dragon ball Z and now this.... On the bright side, it can't get any worse can it?
The Transformers from your childhood was several magnitudes campier than any of the movies, and made a lot less sense.
Dragon Ball Z...well, yeah, the movies were all horrendous garbage. But a movie adaptation that stays faithful to the anime? Once again, pure camp and garbage plot.
And for the people puking over the supposedly leaked TMNT scripts...those lines might as well have come from the cartoon series. Or the 1990's movies.
The transformers of my childhood were awesome. I'd still watch the old cartoons over these new movies, special effect =/= better. The script was mind blowingly bad, the only thing the movies did better was have a hot chick in slow motion -.-
The DBZ movies(Like the actual anime ones) I actually enjoyed, sure they didn't follow the plot or anything of actual dbz but the characters where the same and they were enjoyable to watch. Dragonball evolution was a steamy pile of Oozaru shit dumped all over the entire dragonball universe and my childhood.
The point also isn't 100% about being better or worse then the original either. It's more about at least sticking to what people remember and not changing the characters people grew up loving... If you're gonna make a bad version of a classic show into a movie, at least have the decency to not completely rewrite the show and its characters.... obviously some changes would have to be made, but that doesn't mean turn Goku into a whiny little douche(I'm going to stop at this complaint because I could rant for a good page or two of shit they did to dbz...). Or switch around which Ninja turtle is the jokster/serious one or cut out major characters etc.
On September 02 2012 09:36 huStl.e wrote: this man is truly america's answer to Uwe Boll... what even worse is people are giving him enough money to keep shitting on everyones childhoods
No, he's not. He's really not.
Don't get me wrong; I'm not defending Michael Bay or this POS movie he's making. But there is a level on which Bay's films can be enjoyed. Granted, it often requires giving yourself a lobotomy with a shotgun, but that level still exists.
The only way to enjoy an Uwe Boll film is by mocking it. By deriving pleasure from seeing just how terrible it's pacing, editing, directing, acting, etc are.
Bay achieves a level of basic filmmaking competence that Boll only wishes he could.
Again; that doesn't mean that Bay's films aren't still shit. But they are more competently assembled than anything Boll has ever done.
On August 30 2012 06:26 Obscure wrote: So the script for Michael Bay's upcoming Ninja Turtles movie has leaked and as expected, it's not good.
Originally Posted by cinemabland In short, despite Bay's claims that the turtles would be "exactly the same" as the ones many of us loved as kids, they are now aliens destined to presumably fight a great evil in the form of Colonel Schrader. There's no mention made of their sensei and father figure Splinter at all. (I guess rat aliens aren't edgy?) And Casey Jones and April O'Neil are two bickering high school sweethearts. But beyond all this, it seems they've also swapped the personalities of the turtles, attempting to make the typically brooding Raphael into the jokester Michelangelo was known as, and not much of one at that.
Gah, is there a topic he can't make terrible? Welp here comes another movie that makes a big enough profit to get a sequel, and then just gets worse from there.
And Hollywood gets richer by shitting all over my childhood T.T Transformers, Dragon ball Z and now this.... On the bright side, it can't get any worse can it?
The Transformers from your childhood was several magnitudes campier than any of the movies, and made a lot less sense.
Dragon Ball Z...well, yeah, the movies were all horrendous garbage. But a movie adaptation that stays faithful to the anime? Once again, pure camp and garbage plot.
And for the people puking over the supposedly leaked TMNT scripts...those lines might as well have come from the cartoon series. Or the 1990's movies.
It's funny. In one breath, you defend crappy lines as "might as well have come from the cartoon series," but in your other breath, you attack the original cartoons as being "pure camp and garbage plot."
I'll be the first to admit that Transformers Generation 1 was not the best written TV show of its era. It was an action series with a good, compelling gimmick, that was written just well enough to keep 8-12 year old boys entertained. Most of the good feelings come from nostalgia; from a modern perspective, the writing was weak and the characterization broad and generic.
And I say this as someone who likes G1 enough to buy the DVD set.
HOWEVER, that does not excuse crappy adaptations today. However "campier" G1 may have been compared to BayFormers, it never made me want to punch the writers in the face the way BayFormers did. And not because it shat on my childhood, but because they were, more often than not, shitty movies that pander to the lowest-common-demoninator.
Beast Wars and Transformers Prime (possibly Animated if I'd ever watched it) prove that you can take the basic concept of Transformers and make it work without creating something that is campy or just Godawful. And again, it's not about taking liberties with the property; both of those shows are marked departures from G1. It's about being respectful of what made the property work in the first place.
You cannot have TMNT without Splinter. Not because he was a beloved character from the 90's cartoon. But because he was important to what TMNT is ultimately about.
Originally Posted by cinemablend.com In short, despite Bay's claims that the turtles would be "exactly the same" as the ones many of us loved as kids, they are now aliens destined to presumably fight a great evil in the form of Colonel Schrader. There's no mention made of their sensei and father figure Splinter at all. (I guess rat aliens aren't edgy?) And Casey Jones and April O'Neil are two bickering high school sweethearts. But beyond all this, it seems they've also swapped the personalities of the turtles, attempting to make the typically brooding Raphael into the jokester Michelangelo was known as, and not much of one at that.
But I'm sure there will be plenty of explosions. Huge, glorious, explosions.
I thought Paramount turned the project down a few months ago, but now you're telling me another studio picked it up? O_o
To the other guy up top, there are a lot of producers and directors I know who defend the guy to the extreme. Their argument is the fact Michael Bay knows how to sell a product and he's a very detail orientated guy. Plus, it helps knowing how to shoot an action sequence if you ignore the stupid dialogue. Never worked with him ever in my life so I cannot comment. The only Michael Bay film I liked was The Rock and part of that had to do with the casting for that project as well, so meh.
I just re-watched the other movies recently and there was no shortage of cheesey one-liners either. Underlining words to add more stress is incredibly bad form for screenwriters. In fact, it's elementary.
On September 02 2012 09:36 huStl.e wrote: this man is truly america's answer to Uwe Boll... what even worse is people are giving him enough money to keep shitting on everyones childhoods
Which is crazy, because of how much better than Uwe Boll he actually is. I can watch some of Bays earlier stuff, before he started money-shotting my childhood, but I can never, ever sit through anything Boll related again.
Honestly, this concept could work...just not with him. Not ever with him. And I'm pretty sure for the script they just got a bunch of people to shit on paper and then let a few little kids play in it, from there they made it slightly TMNT related.
But for real...fuck this. Let someone good take the project
On September 02 2012 23:52 NicolBolas wrote: It's funny. In one breath, you defend crappy lines as "might as well have come from the cartoon series," but in your other breath, you attack the original cartoons as being "pure camp and garbage plot."
I'll be the first to admit that Transformers Generation 1 was not the best written TV show of its era. It was an action series with a good, compelling gimmick, that was written just well enough to keep 8-12 year old boys entertained. Most of the good feelings come from nostalgia; from a modern perspective, the writing was weak and the characterization broad and generic.
And I say this as someone who likes G1 enough to buy the DVD set.
HOWEVER, that does not excuse crappy adaptations today. However "campier" G1 may have been compared to BayFormers, it never made me want to punch the writers in the face the way BayFormers did. And not because it shat on my childhood, but because they were, more often than not, shitty movies that pander to the lowest-common-demoninator.
Beast Wars and Transformers Prime (possibly Animated if I'd ever watched it) prove that you can take the basic concept of Transformers and make it work without creating something that is campy or just Godawful. And again, it's not about taking liberties with the property; both of those shows are marked departures from G1. It's about being respectful of what made the property work in the first place.
You cannot have TMNT without Splinter. Not because he was a beloved character from the 90's cartoon. But because he was important to what TMNT is ultimately about.
What made all of these properties "work in the first place" is that it was a unique, random concept that kids growing up in the 90's would think was cool. TMNT is about turtles that are ninjas. Transformers is about cars that turn into robots.
I loved Transformers, TMNT and Dragon Ball Z when I was younger too, and I still enjoy the franchises. But I'm not deluded about the "roots" of the property...or even pretending that there's something to "respect". I watched Beast Wars too, and it's easily my favourite Transformers series. But, beyond a shadow of a doubt, it is campy. Even the third season, which was by far the most serious, had some absolutely ridiculous gags.
Transformers Prime, from what I have seen of it, is definitely more serious. But that's because it's an aged up series designed to be marketed at the people who loved the series a decade ago, instead of the normal focus of revitalizing a toy line.
I'm not saying that the franchises can't be enjoyed. I'm saying that you can't possibly critique the new adaptations using a standard that never existed in the first place. Twenty years ago, you were the lowest common denominator...and the new adaptations are as much about drawing in the young people to sell toys as they are about appeasing fans who have grown up.
Whatever you say about Michael Bay, transformers 1 was and will always be one of my favorite movies. I thought it was extremely funny (and not by mocking it, Sam is the archetype of a non-hero and is brillant at it) and the soundtracks from Steve Jablonsky (Guy working for Hans Zimmer) is stellar.
On September 02 2012 23:52 NicolBolas wrote: It's funny. In one breath, you defend crappy lines as "might as well have come from the cartoon series," but in your other breath, you attack the original cartoons as being "pure camp and garbage plot."
I'll be the first to admit that Transformers Generation 1 was not the best written TV show of its era. It was an action series with a good, compelling gimmick, that was written just well enough to keep 8-12 year old boys entertained. Most of the good feelings come from nostalgia; from a modern perspective, the writing was weak and the characterization broad and generic.
And I say this as someone who likes G1 enough to buy the DVD set.
HOWEVER, that does not excuse crappy adaptations today. However "campier" G1 may have been compared to BayFormers, it never made me want to punch the writers in the face the way BayFormers did. And not because it shat on my childhood, but because they were, more often than not, shitty movies that pander to the lowest-common-demoninator.
Beast Wars and Transformers Prime (possibly Animated if I'd ever watched it) prove that you can take the basic concept of Transformers and make it work without creating something that is campy or just Godawful. And again, it's not about taking liberties with the property; both of those shows are marked departures from G1. It's about being respectful of what made the property work in the first place.
You cannot have TMNT without Splinter. Not because he was a beloved character from the 90's cartoon. But because he was important to what TMNT is ultimately about.
What made all of these properties "work in the first place" is that it was a unique, random concept that kids growing up in the 90's would think was cool. TMNT is about turtles that are ninjas. Transformers is about cars that turn into robots.
I loved Transformers, TMNT and Dragon Ball Z when I was younger too, and I still enjoy the franchises. But I'm not deluded about the "roots" of the property...or even pretending that there's something to "respect". I watched Beast Wars too, and it's easily my favourite Transformers series. But, beyond a shadow of a doubt, it is campy. Even the third season, which was by far the most serious, had some absolutely ridiculous gags.
If that were true, then GoBots, Mask, and Centurians would have been big properties too, rather than the also-rans that they are. The children of the 80s and 90s weren't idiots; they picked the shows that were, on some level, better than their contemporaries.
TMNT wasn't big just because it was about turtles who were ninja. There were elements of the storytelling that were compelling to the children of the age, beyond the simple concept. Or to put it another way, if you re-did the TMNT show back then with a different writing staff, odds are good that it would have tanked in the first year.
Concept alone does not make for a long-lasting show. Concept alone doesn't get people to fondly remember the series two decades after it was released.
No, Transformers and TMNT weren't Gargoyles. But the fact that they had "campy" elements and "ridiculous gags" does not mean that there was nothing substantive about the properties. It does not mean that there was nothing to "respect". There was substance to these properties, a core of character and storytelling. It wasn't particularly deep or anything, but there was something real there that a lot of 80s and 90s shows simply didn't have.
On September 03 2012 11:23 WolfintheSheep wrote: I'm not saying that the franchises can't be enjoyed. I'm saying that you can't possibly critique the new adaptations using a standard that never existed in the first place. Twenty years ago, you were the lowest common denominator...and the new adaptations are as much about drawing in the young people to sell toys as they are about appeasing fans who have grown up.
I most certainly can critique new adaptations using a different standard. There are exactly two legitimate (non-financial) reasons to make a franchise reboot: 1) because you have some interesting stories to tell with that property, or 2) because you believe that, while the property may be good, there are elements that could be improved and/or cruft that needs to be removed.
BayFormers does neither of these. Transformers Prime proves that you can take the original concept and make it better. That you can do better storytelling while still broadly appealing to people. You don't have to talk down to children to get them on-board. Hell, My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic proved this, with a wide appeal even outside of its core demographic. It still has its core demographic, but by using good storytelling and strong characterization, they're able to reach people who would have otherwise balked at a show called "My Little Pony".
Let me repeat that because it is worthy of repeating: BayFormers was beaten by MY LITTLE PONY!
You don't have to throw away good character and storytelling in order to reach the lowest common denominator. If all the LCD wants is giant robots and big explosions, they're not going to be annoyed if you tell a good story around those things.
On September 03 2012 22:55 NicolBolas wrote: If that were true, then GoBots, Mask, and Centurians would have been big properties too, rather than the also-rans that they are. The children of the 80s and 90s weren't idiots; they picked the shows that were, on some level, better than their contemporaries.
TMNT wasn't big just because it was about turtles who were ninja. There were elements of the storytelling that were compelling to the children of the age, beyond the simple concept. Or to put it another way, if you re-did the TMNT show back then with a different writing staff, odds are good that it would have tanked in the first year.
Concept alone does not make for a long-lasting show. Concept alone doesn't get people to fondly remember the series two decades after it was released.
No, Transformers and TMNT weren't Gargoyles. But the fact that they had "campy" elements and "ridiculous gags" does not mean that there was nothing substantive about the properties. It does not mean that there was nothing to "respect". There was substance to these properties, a core of character and storytelling. It wasn't particularly deep or anything, but there was something real there that a lot of 80s and 90s shows simply didn't have.
I'm fortunate enough to have a TV channel that plays tons of retro cartoons, like Ghostbusters, Batman TAS, Gargoyles,. He-Man and, yes, TMNT and Transformers.
There are only a few that actually stand the test of time, and TMNT and Transformers are not in that mix. Yes, there are a few episodes that stand out as being memorable...but I'm rather convinced that those are the only episodes that anyone ever remembers.
The vast majority of episodes are about some contrived threat, the Transformers stumbling on things like wizards and Atlantis, things like the Autobots getting shrunken to let a minor side character have a single episode of showtime.
TMNT is essentially the same, except worse. I mean, how many people actually remember characters like Tattoo and Wingnut from the cartoon episodes?
The success of Transformers and TMNT basically comes down to a good concept, extremely good marketing and reaching critical mass to the point where the figure-heads become iconic.
I most certainly can critique new adaptations using a different standard. There are exactly two legitimate (non-financial) reasons to make a franchise reboot: 1) because you have some interesting stories to tell with that property, or 2) because you believe that, while the property may be good, there are elements that could be improved and/or cruft that needs to be removed.
BayFormers does neither of these. Transformers Prime proves that you can take the original concept and make it better. That you can do better storytelling while still broadly appealing to people. You don't have to talk down to children to get them on-board. Hell, My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic proved this, with a wide appeal even outside of its core demographic. It still has its core demographic, but by using good storytelling and strong characterization, they're able to reach people who would have otherwise balked at a show called "My Little Pony".
Let me repeat that because it is worthy of repeating: BayFormers was beaten by MY LITTLE PONY!
You don't have to throw away good character and storytelling in order to reach the lowest common denominator. If all the LCD wants is giant robots and big explosions, they're not going to be annoyed if you tell a good story around those things.
Once again, I'm not saying that the new adaptations are immune to criticism. I'm saying that people need to stop pretending that the old series were any better.
If you want quality adaptations, that's fine.
If you want to complain about someone shitting on your childhood...then I suggest actually watching those cartoon series again.
On August 01 2012 05:35 sjperera wrote: I don't know if this should be on a different thread or something, but there's a gritty, violent TMNT project named "Dawn of the Ninja" it already has two chapters and is beautiful and extremely violent... for anyone interested in checking it out and supporting the artists, check em out here... there's 53 pages already up
I just checked out that website; the art is awesome, dialogue is meh, but overall it just looks great. Looks like it's on the outs though for lack of funding. But hey, not a problem Bay has, eh?
Either way, good luck to those guys and thanks for the link.
It's a lateral move; it was going to be crap before, and it's still going to be crap now. Just crap with Megan Fox in it (personally, I don't get the attractiveness here).
But I know why Bay did it. Besides the massive ego boost he gets from knowing that he's the reason why Fox still has a career after she called him Hitler, she now has absolutely no artistic power as an actress. Most actors have at least some creative control over their characters, or will at least bring up their own ideas about them to the directory. But not Fox, not now. She must do everything exactly as Bay wants or her career dies.
Oh, and he probably gets her on the cheap.
So ego stroking, no back-talk, and an inexpensive cast member. A pretty good hat-trick from Bay.
Maybe he wants her to crash and burn with the movie? due to the grudge thing, i mean its not like he completely missed her comment about him being "hitler" -_-
rewatching that video in the op, hmm yeah how are they gonna work in splinter and the famous artists names
Wow, this is great news! I think that this will fit Michael Bay perfectly. I mean turtles is supposed to be action filled no drama explosionfests and that's something that Michael is well known for, maybe a bit over the top but i think it will fit the TMNT style perfectly.
On February 22 2013 21:42 Shock710 wrote: Maybe he wants her to crash and burn with the movie? due to the grudge thing, i mean its not like he completely missed her comment about him being "hitler" -_-
rewatching that video in the op, hmm yeah how are they gonna work in splinter and the famous artists names
This movie is in filming now. Here's a picture of Megan Fox with a cameltoe from the set.
Cast includes Megan Fox as April, Mos Def as a black Baxter Stockman, William Fichtner as a white Shredder, Will Arnett, and Whoopi Goldberg.
There are no asian actors in the movie and apparently Shredder is some white boy named Colonel Shrader who runs a government military group called The Foot that tries to capture and imprison the turtles.
I hope I have further ruined all of your childhoods with this post!
I probably won't see it but how terrible could it be? I thought the transformers movies were pretty cool (especially the first one). Do people really think that the director is the one who writes the script, casts the actors, ect.? The director sets up the shots and has a say in all parts of a movie but I really don't think you can blame an entire terrible movie on the director unless the specific reasons you state for the movie's terribleness were under the control of the director. I realize that this is an unpopular opinion (as made obvious by the poll in the op/the rest of the thread) just figured I'd add it anyway.
Alien turtles.. Megan Fox as April... This is a fuckin' disaster. LOL. He better have one hell of a script to make this even viable.... I still doubt it.. The only way the Alien thing would even work is if it was an "alien inspired--Human produced mutagen". If they are just an alien species of turtles.. that's just horrible and retarded, and I really hope Megan fox doesn't fuck up the roll of April, who was supposed to be their semi-intelligent levelheaded human friend. I don't see megan fox as level headed at all, she just screams bimbo through and through. I'm a sad panda guys.
The only redeeming qualities of the BayFormers is the modelling and animation of the robots(which Bay had nothing to do with, obviously) which is unbelievably well done. If you look at the animations during fights and you know some Maya or whatever, your jaw drops at how freaking amazing they are.
Storywise? Yeah not so much. This TMNT reboot looks to be worse then GI Joe reboot.
On July 17 2013 07:20 riotjune wrote: Who's Whoopi Goldberg playing?
Rahzar?
Whoopi is playing April's boss, Burne. This guy:
Not only is she playing a white character, but she's playing a male who is married to a turtle-hating wife. I guess they're making them lesbian or something.
On July 17 2013 07:09 Maxd11 wrote: I probably won't see it but how terrible could it be? I thought the transformers movies were pretty cool (especially the first one). Do people really think that the director is the one who writes the script, casts the actors, ect.? The director sets up the shots and has a say in all parts of a movie but I really don't think you can blame an entire terrible movie on the director unless the specific reasons you state for the movie's terribleness were under the control of the director. I realize that this is an unpopular opinion (as made obvious by the poll in the op/the rest of the thread) just figured I'd add it anyway.
The director almost always gets all the credit for a movie doing well, so if a movie is terrible they should take the brunt of the hatred and blame in my opinion.
On July 17 2013 07:09 Maxd11 wrote: I probably won't see it but how terrible could it be? I thought the transformers movies were pretty cool (especially the first one). Do people really think that the director is the one who writes the script, casts the actors, ect.? The director sets up the shots and has a say in all parts of a movie but I really don't think you can blame an entire terrible movie on the director unless the specific reasons you state for the movie's terribleness were under the control of the director. I realize that this is an unpopular opinion (as made obvious by the poll in the op/the rest of the thread) just figured I'd add it anyway.
He is also producer. He can say "no, this script is shit, go rewrite it"
On July 17 2013 07:09 Maxd11 wrote: I probably won't see it but how terrible could it be? I thought the transformers movies were pretty cool (especially the first one). Do people really think that the director is the one who writes the script, casts the actors, ect.? The director sets up the shots and has a say in all parts of a movie but I really don't think you can blame an entire terrible movie on the director unless the specific reasons you state for the movie's terribleness were under the control of the director. I realize that this is an unpopular opinion (as made obvious by the poll in the op/the rest of the thread) just figured I'd add it anyway.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles will not be aliens in new movie, says Michael Bay
Doesnt change the fact that it is Michael Bay with questionable casting. Explosions and sunsets shouldn't exist in the movie, so I dont know how he is going to do it.
On July 17 2013 07:09 Maxd11 wrote: I probably won't see it but how terrible could it be? I thought the transformers movies were pretty cool (especially the first one). Do people really think that the director is the one who writes the script, casts the actors, ect.? The director sets up the shots and has a say in all parts of a movie but I really don't think you can blame an entire terrible movie on the director unless the specific reasons you state for the movie's terribleness were under the control of the director. I realize that this is an unpopular opinion (as made obvious by the poll in the op/the rest of the thread) just figured I'd add it anyway.
To be fair Bad Boys and Armageddon were both good movies and they're rated really poorly on RT. You can't really go by the RT ratings because they rarely ever match the actual viewer ratings. For example, Bad Boys II got like 20% from critics but 80% from the public. If you're going to use Rotten Tomatoes as a basis for how good a movie is you need to completely disregard the critic reviews because they're worthless.
That being said, his recent movies have been terrible and the script for this movie shows he has no idea what he's doing with it.
On July 17 2013 07:09 Maxd11 wrote: I probably won't see it but how terrible could it be? I thought the transformers movies were pretty cool (especially the first one). Do people really think that the director is the one who writes the script, casts the actors, ect.? The director sets up the shots and has a say in all parts of a movie but I really don't think you can blame an entire terrible movie on the director unless the specific reasons you state for the movie's terribleness were under the control of the director. I realize that this is an unpopular opinion (as made obvious by the poll in the op/the rest of the thread) just figured I'd add it anyway.
And yet, every Michael Bay movie seems to have certain elements to the writing, acting, and production that are specific and unique to Bay. You can tell a Bay-movie script without having seen the film.
Directors tend to have the highest-level of control over a film outside of the studio producing it. Directors are involved in the writer and casting. They are in overall creative control of the film. Until and unless the studio decides to interfere in the production, the director is in charge.
And studios don't tend to interfere in the production of movies by successful directors with a proven history of making money. This is why James Cameron got carte blanc to do whatever he wanted with Avatar, and nobody at the studio is regretting that decision. Or if they are, they soothe their regrets in gold-plated bathtubs. The cash cow goes moo.
This level of control only increases when the director is also the producer. Because now, not only is the director involved in the casting, writing, and so forth, they have direct authority over it. They now effectively represent the studio in on-set matters.
On July 17 2013 07:09 Maxd11 wrote: I probably won't see it but how terrible could it be? I thought the transformers movies were pretty cool (especially the first one). Do people really think that the director is the one who writes the script, casts the actors, ect.? The director sets up the shots and has a say in all parts of a movie but I really don't think you can blame an entire terrible movie on the director unless the specific reasons you state for the movie's terribleness were under the control of the director. I realize that this is an unpopular opinion (as made obvious by the poll in the op/the rest of the thread) just figured I'd add it anyway.
To be fair Bad Boys and Armageddon were both good movies and they're rated really poorly on RT. You can't really go by the RT ratings because they rarely ever match the actual viewer ratings. For example, Bad Boys II got like 20% from critics but 80% from the public. If you're going to use Rotten Tomatoes as a basis for how good a movie is you need to completely disregard the critic reviews because they're worthless.
That being said, his recent movies have been terrible and the script for this movie shows he has no idea what he's doing with it.
Every redeeming element of Bad Boys comes from the cast, not Bay. Everything good that that movie does is because it has Will Smith and Martin Lawrence riffing on each other.
Also, the "actual viewer ratings" for Transformers 2 were 68%, a movie that even you say was "terrible". So it seems rather more likely that the "actual viewer ratings" are complete shit, and the critical ratings are a more effective measure for the quality of a film. That doesn't mean they don't get it wrong
im prepared to give the whole thing a chance but what the actual fuck? Yes, the story we know and everyone came to love and fully accept which l;ends itself to all kinds of brilliant training/filmaking/finding themselves bullshit . .but no . .aliens, they can do loads of shit which they only fully discover as the film goes on, oh i didnt know i could mindjack just before we nearly all die . . . yea . . seems legit. you go michael. WE really need to just boycott the movie and try nard to get everyone to do it, its the only way you can teach these people . . . when they realise you cant eat money theyll also stop fucking with our childhood memories and just stick to the fucking script with cleverer revamps
But while all three of those films have already released first look images and even trailers, one film that we remain all but completely in the dark about is Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Directed by Wrath of the Titans' Jonathan Liebesman and produced by Michael Bay's company, Platinum Dunes, the upcoming summer blockbuster has kept the internet patiently waiting for the first official look at the new adolescent, evolved, martial arts-fighting reptiles. It turns out that the wait has been just a bit too long, as now we are getting our first impressions of the new TMNT design from a cheap Halloween costume.
The fan site TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles.com managed to get their hands on the image you see at the top of this article, which they say is a 2014 Michelangelo costume that is based on the look of one of the four lead characters in the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie.
Liebesman and Bay are dreadful, but the costume design actually seems pretty good. Shredder looks incredible, and aside from being roided out, the Turtles actually look good. I think the biceps and shoulders need to be toned down a lot though (they're supposed to be acrobatic after all), but still. It could just be Leonardo's armor making it seem out of proportion.
Helicopters! Sirens! Machine Guns! Megan Fox! Booms! CGI Super Turtle Smashing a HumVee to bits with his shell! ... Damnit... 90 seconds and this movie already seems too bayed out =\
Will wait and see though.. might be ok, stranger things have happened ... =\
On March 28 2014 05:37 Powerpill wrote: Helicopters! Sirens! Machine Guns! Megan Fox! Booms! CGI Super Turtle Smashing a HumVee to bits with his shell! ... Damnit... 90 seconds and this movie already seems too bayed out =\
Will wait and see though.. might be ok, stranger things have happened ... =\
In before the four turtles unzip their costumes to reveal Optimus Prime, Megatron, Will Smith, and Martin Lawrence.
On March 28 2014 05:37 Powerpill wrote: Helicopters! Sirens! Machine Guns! Megan Fox! Booms! CGI Super Turtle Smashing a HumVee to bits with his shell! ... Damnit... 90 seconds and this movie already seems too bayed out =\
Will wait and see though.. might be ok, stranger things have happened ... =\
In before the four turtles unzip their costumes to reveal Optimus Prime, Megatron, Will Smith, and Martin Lawrence.
This isnt turtles. Its all of the babies from the last Shrek movie. They grew up and became indestructible like Bruce Willis in the last two Die Hard movies.
Plus the fucking blue/orange coloring... Everywhere...
As terrible as this movie likely will be I'm still going to go watch it in theaters. I was a die hard TMNT fan as a kid. for a few years in a row me, 3 friends and one of there sisters would dress up as the Turtles and April for Halloween.
Fuck you Michael Bay...I'll give you my money but still, fuck you...
Meh. I've been a die-hard turtles fan for as long as I can remember and I don't think this is awful looking. It's definitely Michael Bay in a nutshell leading me to believe he had a lot more to do with the style of the thing than I'd hoped he would as a producer, but I don't think it will end up being all that bad. The turtles look fine, stylized and new, and anyone who thinks the older styles of turtles (any of them, at all) would work in today's market is fooling themselves.
I'm cautiously optimistic. I think the scene they showed at the end with Mikey trying to calm April down was very "turtles" and so I really think it has a chance.
I don't think that Shredder and O'Neil the elder had a deliberate hand in making the turtles as people on other forums seem to be harping on about. They'll probably still have a similar origin story with the science dudes trying to make a super-soldier or something instead of whatever the original TGRI goons were doing when the turtles were oozed.
I don't like the drastic change from the origin story that I loved, but I can deal with it, at least in the tiny amount of it that I'm aware of.
I don't understand why Shredder is white though. That's probably the only major gripe I have here.
On March 28 2014 21:54 Noobity wrote: Meh. I've been a die-hard turtles fan for as long as I can remember and I don't think this is awful looking. It's definitely Michael Bay in a nutshell leading me to believe he had a lot more to do with the style of the thing than I'd hoped he would as a producer, but I don't think it will end up being all that bad. The turtles look fine, stylized and new, and anyone who thinks the older styles of turtles (any of them, at all) would work in today's market is fooling themselves.
I'm cautiously optimistic. I think the scene they showed at the end with Mikey trying to calm April down was very "turtles" and so I really think it has a chance.
I don't think that Shredder and O'Neil the elder had a deliberate hand in making the turtles as people on other forums seem to be harping on about. They'll probably still have a similar origin story with the science dudes trying to make a super-soldier or something instead of whatever the original TGRI goons were doing when the turtles were oozed.
I don't like the drastic change from the origin story that I loved, but I can deal with it, at least in the tiny amount of it that I'm aware of.
I don't understand why Shredder is white though. That's probably the only major gripe I have here.
Don't you mean half-shell? huehue. On topic: It doesn't look too bad for me either. The April scene is quite similar to the cartoon's first episode (I think she even faints twice in there IIRC). I'm actually quite OK with the type of style they're going for going by the trailer, TMNT has always been a goofy/funny cartoon with awesome and badass fighting bits.
Well, we are going to watch the movie in a couple of hours. I expect nothing from it, except:
effects sound 3D turtles shredder splinter o`neil ooze pizza
I was pleased with the 90`s movie adaption beside the fact they were.. different from the tv animatic. Hopefully Bay learned his lesson, and made the whole movie less ... kitschy. Dunno how to describe what went wrong with transformers.. it was somehow a little too immature for my taste. The people who watched the 80`s series are old now... yeah, somehow there needs to be a way to catch the young audience, which is surely more important for a life circle than satisfying the old nerds... but pls, let me enjoy this movie tt
Just watched the trailer. All i have to say is that why humanity would accept something made by Michael bay is beyond me but that's probably humanity in a nutshell.
As a person who`s grown up with the late 80`s, early 90`s tv comic serie, i have to say the movie isn't that bad, but clearly has its flaws.
The charakters themself are good implemented, except two exceptions. Shredder is one exception. He`s a cool and charismatic villian until the point he get his decepticon suit. Transformers says hello. The turtles are fine and the humor fits really good. There were plenty of moments for a good laugh. They saved the movie. First of all Michelangelo. Ms O'Neil aka Megan Fox... well, only an eye catcher. The scenes with her were so bad and subtile, that it felt more like a slapstick inlay, unfortunally.
Effects and sound were really good, ofc. Although the movie itself felt a lot like a mod with Transformers as its main movie. A lot of sounds and light effects were recycled. But also the *schwipp, boing, tsswusch*s from the 90's movies were included.
Story was really flat overall. No big suprises or twists and subtile dialogs. Some elements were cool, some were bad and i wish they had made things a little different.
So, to sum it up; Pictures and the turtles are the good things. The other characters (esp. O'Neil and decepticon.Shredder) could have been better. The story telling is too subtile and the sound too transformer'ish. My personal imdb rating prolly would be 6.9 - 7.1 The good laughs we had really saved the movie.
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