EPT[TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion - Page 75
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moopie
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
@moopie: Yea I was just responding to that guy trying to clear up what happened in the TV show. In the books if Joffrey did that, that also would be somewhat out of character. | ||
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Crazyeyes
Canada1342 Posts
He has to come of age or some shit, and until then Cersei rules as queen. Hmm, this might actually be a large change. | ||
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SigmaoctanusIV
United States3313 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
But Bronn being head of the City Watch prob means they didn't want to cast the guy who eventually replaces Janos Slynt? That does kind of...screw with Bronn's development since his mercenary/do what Tyrion says role was solid. Putting him in charge of the City Watch messes with it - although it does "fast track" his wanting to be a Lord ideal. That will probably linger around long enough (like 2 seasons at least) to have that small conflict with Cersei. | ||
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itkovian
United States1763 Posts
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moopie
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The only potential plothole it opens is that if he's part of the city watch then technically Cersei (as regent) could just get rid of him (why offer him Lollys to gain his allegiance if you can just fire him or send him into exile). She didn't really have juristiction over him when he led Tyrion's group of mercenaries. | ||
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Crazyeyes
Canada1342 Posts
None of them were given any leadership roles. Bronn's replacing that one guy... forgot his name... I liked him, but he didn't exactly last long. Episode 2 Spoiler for those of you who want to wait until next week + Show Spoiler + They're also making the white walkers much more prominent, eh? Seeing one already. I saw the blue eyes! There was always the assumption that he gave his sons to the Others to keep himself safe, but now we know for sure. And speaking of assumptions. MELLISANDRE! Again, even though it was always assumed, we now KNOW that Stannis fucked her to create the demon shadow thing (which I by the way thought was the lamest part of the entire series. Seroiusly? Shadow demon birth thing? That's a bit silly). Which is neat. I never realized that the show can help us learn things that the books couldn't. | ||
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LilClinkin
Australia667 Posts
On April 03 2012 15:21 Crazyeyes wrote: There's nothing that suggests he doesn't still have his mountain men. When he walked in on the first episode, he was followed by Bronn and a man with a giant axe. I assumed he was one of the montain dudes? None of them were given any leadership roles. Bronn's replacing that one guy... forgot his name... I liked him, but he didn't exactly last long. Episode 2 Spoiler for those of you who want to wait until next week + Show Spoiler + They're also making the white walkers much more prominent, eh? Seeing one already. I saw the blue eyes! There was always the assumption that he gave his sons to the Others to keep himself safe, but now we know for sure. And speaking of assumptions. MELLISANDRE! Again, even though it was always assumed, we now KNOW that Stannis fucked her to create the demon shadow thing (which I by the way thought was the lamest part of the entire series. Seroiusly? Shadow demon birth thing? That's a bit silly). Which is neat. I never realized that the show can help us learn things that the books couldn't. I know it isn't explicitly stated in the books, but I still think it's pretty obvious that Craster gifted his boys to the Others, and Stannis obviously has sex with Mellisandre to birth the shadows. | ||
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Crazyeyes
Canada1342 Posts
Heavily hinted and/or implied. But now it's confirmed. ;P The Stannis one was a bit harder to believe. He's just so very uptight. He's made out to be practically asexual... he doesn't like sex. He just does it because it's his duty. To make sons. | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
On April 03 2012 15:29 LilClinkin wrote: I know it isn't explicitly stated in the books, but I still think it's pretty obvious that Craster gifted his boys to the Others, and Stannis obviously has sex with Mellisandre to birth the shadows. Well it was a rumor that he sacrificed his sons to the others. Thats not really the same as actually giving them and them actually being recieved. Its like how they used to sacrifice chickens/goats to appease the gods. | ||
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Astro-Penguin
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
I didn't even notice the Bronn thing, frankly the King's Landing/Tyrion chapters bored me a bit in the 2nd book (They got good in the 3rd though). I remember Tyrion pwning Janos Slynt, but I didn't remember whether or not he promoted Bronn. | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
On April 03 2012 15:29 LilClinkin wrote: I know it isn't explicitly stated in the books, but I still think it's pretty obvious that Craster gifted his boys to the Others, and Stannis obviously has sex with Mellisandre to birth the shadows. I thought it was explicitly stated in the books. I don't think it was said this early on, but I think it Gilly tells Sam probably in book 3. Usually I don't pick up on these things if they are implied, so I'm pretty sure it was explicitly said at one point :D | ||
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ogion
New Zealand79 Posts
On April 03 2012 16:41 happyness wrote: I thought it was explicitly stated in the books. I don't think it was said this early on, but I think it Gilly tells Sam probably in book 3. Usually I don't pick up on these things if they are implied, so I'm pretty sure it was explicitly said at one point :D It wasn't proved, but we are told it happens by Gilly | ||
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woody60707
United States1863 Posts
On April 03 2012 15:44 Crazyeyes wrote: I know. It's like the Renly is gay thing. Heavily hinted and/or implied. But now it's confirmed. ;P The Stannis one was a bit harder to believe. He's just so very uptight. He's made out to be practically asexual... he doesn't like sex. He just does it because it's his duty. To make sons. I never picked up on the fact that Renly was gay in the book. | ||
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elt
Thailand1092 Posts
That said, while I'm enjoying the adaptation I do miss the loss of ... details. Like for example Janos Slynt about to be bounced off to the Wall, I think there was some mention of him being made a lord, and they don't even mention Harrenhal. Why? Probably because it would mean nothing to readers and to explain Harrenhal was where Rhaegar saw Lyanna ... Would need even more explanation. I don't think that was even covered properly was it? But that's just nitpicking, I realise they can't achieve everything. | ||
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sidesprang
Norway1033 Posts
On April 03 2012 18:17 woody60707 wrote: I never picked up on the fact that Renly was gay in the book. I picked up on it really easy, but then again I already knew it (as i saw the series before i read it). So it's definetly there but maybe not so obvious since you dont expect it. | ||
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kafkaesque
Germany2006 Posts
On April 03 2012 18:17 woody60707 wrote: I never picked up on the fact that Renly was gay in the book. That makes two of us, but this makes it quite clear: (link sent to me by geo.rion) http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/mlarchives/faq/lorasrenly.html | ||
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Maginor
Norway505 Posts
On April 03 2012 18:26 elt wrote: ...Like for example Janos Slynt about to be bounced off to the Wall, I think there was some mention of him being made a lord, and they don't even mention Harrenhal. Why? Probably because it would mean nothing to readers and to explain Harrenhal was where Rhaegar saw Lyanna ... Would need even more explanation. I don't think that was even covered properly was it? But that's just nitpicking, I realise they can't achieve everything. He was granted the "ancient seat of Harrenhal" in ep. 8 of season 1. | ||
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