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That guy isn't even a good Daario ^^
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On June 10 2015 12:56 TheFish7 wrote:Guys, they already casted Euron: + Show Spoiler +Show nested quote +On June 09 2015 22:56 -Archangel- wrote:On June 09 2015 22:53 Geo.Rion wrote:On June 09 2015 18:06 AndreWiles wrote:On June 09 2015 16:25 Spaylz wrote:On June 09 2015 15:39 AndreWiles wrote:On June 09 2015 11:58 coverpunch wrote:On June 09 2015 10:52 Leporello wrote:
What bothers me still is the Unsullied being the smallest, most worthless army ever, and that a bunch of rich, pansy ex-slave-owners with robes and daggers can just kill them all. It's just Dany fundamentally misusing her army in her attempts to change the local culture. The Unsullied are supposed to be an army for crushing opponents in the open field, after which the masters maintain order by converting the defeated to slaves. How do the unsullied beat anyone in the field? They seem to all be spearmen, in which case cavalry archers, aka dothraki would destroy them in the open. In the books, we hear a lot about the story involving the Unsullied beating back a Dothraki horde when they were outnumbered something crazy, like 8 to 1. According to the book and the history within it, it all came down to formation. I don't think the poor performance of the Unsullied on the show is due to Dany misusing them. The Unsullied aren't some sort of niche soldiers. They're supposed to be fairly polyvalent soldiers. On the asoiaf wiki, it's even specified that they make excellent guardsmen, and are also at their best in the phalanx battle formation. As sad as it is, the Unsullied's poor performance on the show comes down to bad choreography/cinematography, and plot. As we've all seen, the choreography really has taken a severe hit this season. It's not just the Unsullied. edit: according to the wiki, the odds of the Dothraki battle were more like 1:5. Yeah i've read about that, the dothraki must have been dumb enough to try and engage in melee combat. It doesn't make any sense if it was otherwise, any wise strategist would just rain arrows down on the spearmen and gallop away when the spearmen got close. Well, no, cuz the Unsullied are disciplined and can set up a shield-turtle kinda formation with their round shields, i think something like that was even shown in the books at one point or another. I think the "usual" response to static shield bearers by mounted fighters is to run them down, however the Unsullied do not break, they hold formation so trying to brake their lines with a charge is highly ineffective. At least that s how i pictured the Dothraki vs Unsullied battle, im no military expert Their shields are too small, they are not Romans who used tower shields. Phalanx gets bonus dmg vs horses. It is known.
Dario = Euron is easily top 3 fan theory
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More like top 3 tin foil theory 
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On June 10 2015 16:23 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 12:56 TheFish7 wrote:Guys, they already casted Euron: + Show Spoiler +On June 09 2015 22:56 -Archangel- wrote:On June 09 2015 22:53 Geo.Rion wrote:On June 09 2015 18:06 AndreWiles wrote:On June 09 2015 16:25 Spaylz wrote:On June 09 2015 15:39 AndreWiles wrote:On June 09 2015 11:58 coverpunch wrote:On June 09 2015 10:52 Leporello wrote:
What bothers me still is the Unsullied being the smallest, most worthless army ever, and that a bunch of rich, pansy ex-slave-owners with robes and daggers can just kill them all. It's just Dany fundamentally misusing her army in her attempts to change the local culture. The Unsullied are supposed to be an army for crushing opponents in the open field, after which the masters maintain order by converting the defeated to slaves. How do the unsullied beat anyone in the field? They seem to all be spearmen, in which case cavalry archers, aka dothraki would destroy them in the open. In the books, we hear a lot about the story involving the Unsullied beating back a Dothraki horde when they were outnumbered something crazy, like 8 to 1. According to the book and the history within it, it all came down to formation. I don't think the poor performance of the Unsullied on the show is due to Dany misusing them. The Unsullied aren't some sort of niche soldiers. They're supposed to be fairly polyvalent soldiers. On the asoiaf wiki, it's even specified that they make excellent guardsmen, and are also at their best in the phalanx battle formation. As sad as it is, the Unsullied's poor performance on the show comes down to bad choreography/cinematography, and plot. As we've all seen, the choreography really has taken a severe hit this season. It's not just the Unsullied. edit: according to the wiki, the odds of the Dothraki battle were more like 1:5. Yeah i've read about that, the dothraki must have been dumb enough to try and engage in melee combat. It doesn't make any sense if it was otherwise, any wise strategist would just rain arrows down on the spearmen and gallop away when the spearmen got close. Well, no, cuz the Unsullied are disciplined and can set up a shield-turtle kinda formation with their round shields, i think something like that was even shown in the books at one point or another. I think the "usual" response to static shield bearers by mounted fighters is to run them down, however the Unsullied do not break, they hold formation so trying to brake their lines with a charge is highly ineffective. At least that s how i pictured the Dothraki vs Unsullied battle, im no military expert Their shields are too small, they are not Romans who used tower shields. Phalanx gets bonus dmg vs horses. It is known. Dario = Euron is easily top 3 fan theory
right up with Howland reed= High sparrow, and Westeros is ran by a secret society of merlings?
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
There are plenty of great tinfoil theories. Bolt-on, Azor Ahainnister, etc.
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On June 10 2015 17:49 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 16:23 Cricketer12 wrote:On June 10 2015 12:56 TheFish7 wrote:Guys, they already casted Euron: + Show Spoiler +On June 09 2015 22:56 -Archangel- wrote:On June 09 2015 22:53 Geo.Rion wrote:On June 09 2015 18:06 AndreWiles wrote:On June 09 2015 16:25 Spaylz wrote:On June 09 2015 15:39 AndreWiles wrote:On June 09 2015 11:58 coverpunch wrote:On June 09 2015 10:52 Leporello wrote:
What bothers me still is the Unsullied being the smallest, most worthless army ever, and that a bunch of rich, pansy ex-slave-owners with robes and daggers can just kill them all. It's just Dany fundamentally misusing her army in her attempts to change the local culture. The Unsullied are supposed to be an army for crushing opponents in the open field, after which the masters maintain order by converting the defeated to slaves. How do the unsullied beat anyone in the field? They seem to all be spearmen, in which case cavalry archers, aka dothraki would destroy them in the open. In the books, we hear a lot about the story involving the Unsullied beating back a Dothraki horde when they were outnumbered something crazy, like 8 to 1. According to the book and the history within it, it all came down to formation. I don't think the poor performance of the Unsullied on the show is due to Dany misusing them. The Unsullied aren't some sort of niche soldiers. They're supposed to be fairly polyvalent soldiers. On the asoiaf wiki, it's even specified that they make excellent guardsmen, and are also at their best in the phalanx battle formation. As sad as it is, the Unsullied's poor performance on the show comes down to bad choreography/cinematography, and plot. As we've all seen, the choreography really has taken a severe hit this season. It's not just the Unsullied. edit: according to the wiki, the odds of the Dothraki battle were more like 1:5. Yeah i've read about that, the dothraki must have been dumb enough to try and engage in melee combat. It doesn't make any sense if it was otherwise, any wise strategist would just rain arrows down on the spearmen and gallop away when the spearmen got close. Well, no, cuz the Unsullied are disciplined and can set up a shield-turtle kinda formation with their round shields, i think something like that was even shown in the books at one point or another. I think the "usual" response to static shield bearers by mounted fighters is to run them down, however the Unsullied do not break, they hold formation so trying to brake their lines with a charge is highly ineffective. At least that s how i pictured the Dothraki vs Unsullied battle, im no military expert Their shields are too small, they are not Romans who used tower shields. Phalanx gets bonus dmg vs horses. It is known. Dario = Euron is easily top 3 fan theory right up with Howland reed= High sparrow, and Westeros is ran by a secret society of merlings?
Lol, there is this theory?
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So you other guys have no opinion on a possible Euron casting?
Most tinfoil theories are fun to read, but what worries me is that a lot of people actually believe stuff like Daario = Euron or HR = HS.
The only real tinfoil theory i can see happening is (f)Aegon
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But Reed follows Old Gods. How would he even fake being such a devoted follower of the Seven. I don't even..
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On June 10 2015 20:16 -Archangel- wrote:But Reed follows Old Gods. How would he even fake being such a devoted follower of the Seven. I don't even..
precisely
On June 10 2015 20:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:
So you other guys have no opinion on a possible Euron casting?
Most tinfoil theories are fun to read, but what worries me is that a lot of people actually believe stuff like Daario = Euron or HR = HS.
The only real tinfoil theory i can see happening is (f)Aegon
(f)aegon is not a tinfoil theory, there s very strong textual proof that he is not in fact the son of Rhaegar. Now who he is exactly, there are some pretty wild ideas regarding taht, but the main theory is that one way or another he's a Blackfyre descendant, and while this is by no means proven, there s reasonable doubt.
And there are just way too many mentions in prophecies and Quaith's warnings about fake-dragons, mummer's dragons etc. for him to be simply who Gryff and co. says he is.
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On June 10 2015 17:49 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 16:23 Cricketer12 wrote:On June 10 2015 12:56 TheFish7 wrote:Guys, they already casted Euron: + Show Spoiler +On June 09 2015 22:56 -Archangel- wrote:On June 09 2015 22:53 Geo.Rion wrote:On June 09 2015 18:06 AndreWiles wrote:On June 09 2015 16:25 Spaylz wrote:On June 09 2015 15:39 AndreWiles wrote:On June 09 2015 11:58 coverpunch wrote:On June 09 2015 10:52 Leporello wrote:
What bothers me still is the Unsullied being the smallest, most worthless army ever, and that a bunch of rich, pansy ex-slave-owners with robes and daggers can just kill them all. It's just Dany fundamentally misusing her army in her attempts to change the local culture. The Unsullied are supposed to be an army for crushing opponents in the open field, after which the masters maintain order by converting the defeated to slaves. How do the unsullied beat anyone in the field? They seem to all be spearmen, in which case cavalry archers, aka dothraki would destroy them in the open. In the books, we hear a lot about the story involving the Unsullied beating back a Dothraki horde when they were outnumbered something crazy, like 8 to 1. According to the book and the history within it, it all came down to formation. I don't think the poor performance of the Unsullied on the show is due to Dany misusing them. The Unsullied aren't some sort of niche soldiers. They're supposed to be fairly polyvalent soldiers. On the asoiaf wiki, it's even specified that they make excellent guardsmen, and are also at their best in the phalanx battle formation. As sad as it is, the Unsullied's poor performance on the show comes down to bad choreography/cinematography, and plot. As we've all seen, the choreography really has taken a severe hit this season. It's not just the Unsullied. edit: according to the wiki, the odds of the Dothraki battle were more like 1:5. Yeah i've read about that, the dothraki must have been dumb enough to try and engage in melee combat. It doesn't make any sense if it was otherwise, any wise strategist would just rain arrows down on the spearmen and gallop away when the spearmen got close. Well, no, cuz the Unsullied are disciplined and can set up a shield-turtle kinda formation with their round shields, i think something like that was even shown in the books at one point or another. I think the "usual" response to static shield bearers by mounted fighters is to run them down, however the Unsullied do not break, they hold formation so trying to brake their lines with a charge is highly ineffective. At least that s how i pictured the Dothraki vs Unsullied battle, im no military expert Their shields are too small, they are not Romans who used tower shields. Phalanx gets bonus dmg vs horses. It is known. Dario = Euron is easily top 3 fan theory right up with Howland reed= High sparrow, and Westeros is ran by a secret society of merlings?
Jon snow = targaryen, his mother is lyanna stark
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On June 10 2015 21:45 saltywet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 17:49 Geo.Rion wrote:On June 10 2015 16:23 Cricketer12 wrote:On June 10 2015 12:56 TheFish7 wrote:Guys, they already casted Euron: + Show Spoiler +On June 09 2015 22:56 -Archangel- wrote:On June 09 2015 22:53 Geo.Rion wrote:On June 09 2015 18:06 AndreWiles wrote:On June 09 2015 16:25 Spaylz wrote:On June 09 2015 15:39 AndreWiles wrote:On June 09 2015 11:58 coverpunch wrote:
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It's just Dany fundamentally misusing her army in her attempts to change the local culture. The Unsullied are supposed to be an army for crushing opponents in the open field, after which the masters maintain order by converting the defeated to slaves.
How do the unsullied beat anyone in the field? They seem to all be spearmen, in which case cavalry archers, aka dothraki would destroy them in the open. In the books, we hear a lot about the story involving the Unsullied beating back a Dothraki horde when they were outnumbered something crazy, like 8 to 1. According to the book and the history within it, it all came down to formation. I don't think the poor performance of the Unsullied on the show is due to Dany misusing them. The Unsullied aren't some sort of niche soldiers. They're supposed to be fairly polyvalent soldiers. On the asoiaf wiki, it's even specified that they make excellent guardsmen, and are also at their best in the phalanx battle formation. As sad as it is, the Unsullied's poor performance on the show comes down to bad choreography/cinematography, and plot. As we've all seen, the choreography really has taken a severe hit this season. It's not just the Unsullied. edit: according to the wiki, the odds of the Dothraki battle were more like 1:5. Yeah i've read about that, the dothraki must have been dumb enough to try and engage in melee combat. It doesn't make any sense if it was otherwise, any wise strategist would just rain arrows down on the spearmen and gallop away when the spearmen got close. Well, no, cuz the Unsullied are disciplined and can set up a shield-turtle kinda formation with their round shields, i think something like that was even shown in the books at one point or another. I think the "usual" response to static shield bearers by mounted fighters is to run them down, however the Unsullied do not break, they hold formation so trying to brake their lines with a charge is highly ineffective. At least that s how i pictured the Dothraki vs Unsullied battle, im no military expert Their shields are too small, they are not Romans who used tower shields. Phalanx gets bonus dmg vs horses. It is known. Dario = Euron is easily top 3 fan theory right up with Howland reed= High sparrow, and Westeros is ran by a secret society of merlings? Jon snow = targaryen, his mother is lyanna stark
we all know that, i was being sarcastic, enumerating ridiculous theories, to signal that Euron= Daario is in line with those, and not a top 3 theory.
As far as certainty goes the most obvious ones are
1. R+L = J
2. Sarella Sand= Alleras the sphinx
third one is up for grabs, Jojen being dead is confirmed by the show, though the Jojen-paste might be too much, but im a believer.
Actually no, Jamie killing Cersei would be my nr 3, but im sure many would disagree.
EDIT>
Sorry, forgot about the Clegane brothers
nr 3. Hound = Gravedigger, Gregor = Robert Strong
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On June 10 2015 21:51 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 21:45 saltywet wrote:On June 10 2015 17:49 Geo.Rion wrote:On June 10 2015 16:23 Cricketer12 wrote:On June 10 2015 12:56 TheFish7 wrote:Guys, they already casted Euron: + Show Spoiler +On June 09 2015 22:56 -Archangel- wrote:On June 09 2015 22:53 Geo.Rion wrote:On June 09 2015 18:06 AndreWiles wrote:On June 09 2015 16:25 Spaylz wrote:On June 09 2015 15:39 AndreWiles wrote:
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How do the unsullied beat anyone in the field? They seem to all be spearmen, in which case cavalry archers, aka dothraki would destroy them in the open. In the books, we hear a lot about the story involving the Unsullied beating back a Dothraki horde when they were outnumbered something crazy, like 8 to 1. According to the book and the history within it, it all came down to formation. I don't think the poor performance of the Unsullied on the show is due to Dany misusing them. The Unsullied aren't some sort of niche soldiers. They're supposed to be fairly polyvalent soldiers. On the asoiaf wiki, it's even specified that they make excellent guardsmen, and are also at their best in the phalanx battle formation. As sad as it is, the Unsullied's poor performance on the show comes down to bad choreography/cinematography, and plot. As we've all seen, the choreography really has taken a severe hit this season. It's not just the Unsullied. edit: according to the wiki, the odds of the Dothraki battle were more like 1:5. Yeah i've read about that, the dothraki must have been dumb enough to try and engage in melee combat. It doesn't make any sense if it was otherwise, any wise strategist would just rain arrows down on the spearmen and gallop away when the spearmen got close. Well, no, cuz the Unsullied are disciplined and can set up a shield-turtle kinda formation with their round shields, i think something like that was even shown in the books at one point or another. I think the "usual" response to static shield bearers by mounted fighters is to run them down, however the Unsullied do not break, they hold formation so trying to brake their lines with a charge is highly ineffective. At least that s how i pictured the Dothraki vs Unsullied battle, im no military expert Their shields are too small, they are not Romans who used tower shields. Phalanx gets bonus dmg vs horses. It is known. Dario = Euron is easily top 3 fan theory right up with Howland reed= High sparrow, and Westeros is ran by a secret society of merlings? Jon snow = targaryen, his mother is lyanna stark we all know that, i was being sarcastic, enumerating ridiculous theories, to signal that Euron= Daario is in line with those, and not a top 3 theory. As far as certainty goes the most obvious ones are 1. R+L = J 2. Sarella Sand= Alleras the sphinx third one is up for grabs, Jojen being dead is confirmed by the show, though the Jojen-paste might be too much, but im a believer. Actually no, Jamie killing Cersei would be my nr 3, but im sure many would disagree.
Who is Alleras the Sphinx?
There is also that theory that prince of dorne didn't die to dragon fire but was switched with that mercenary commander with that special cloak.
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On June 10 2015 21:53 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 21:51 Geo.Rion wrote:On June 10 2015 21:45 saltywet wrote:On June 10 2015 17:49 Geo.Rion wrote:On June 10 2015 16:23 Cricketer12 wrote:On June 10 2015 12:56 TheFish7 wrote:Guys, they already casted Euron: + Show Spoiler +On June 09 2015 22:56 -Archangel- wrote:On June 09 2015 22:53 Geo.Rion wrote:On June 09 2015 18:06 AndreWiles wrote:On June 09 2015 16:25 Spaylz wrote:[quote] In the books, we hear a lot about the story involving the Unsullied beating back a Dothraki horde when they were outnumbered something crazy, like 8 to 1. According to the book and the history within it, it all came down to formation. I don't think the poor performance of the Unsullied on the show is due to Dany misusing them. The Unsullied aren't some sort of niche soldiers. They're supposed to be fairly polyvalent soldiers. On the asoiaf wiki, it's even specified that they make excellent guardsmen, and are also at their best in the phalanx battle formation. As sad as it is, the Unsullied's poor performance on the show comes down to bad choreography/cinematography, and plot. As we've all seen, the choreography really has taken a severe hit this season. It's not just the Unsullied. edit: according to the wiki, the odds of the Dothraki battle were more like 1:5. Yeah i've read about that, the dothraki must have been dumb enough to try and engage in melee combat. It doesn't make any sense if it was otherwise, any wise strategist would just rain arrows down on the spearmen and gallop away when the spearmen got close. Well, no, cuz the Unsullied are disciplined and can set up a shield-turtle kinda formation with their round shields, i think something like that was even shown in the books at one point or another. I think the "usual" response to static shield bearers by mounted fighters is to run them down, however the Unsullied do not break, they hold formation so trying to brake their lines with a charge is highly ineffective. At least that s how i pictured the Dothraki vs Unsullied battle, im no military expert Their shields are too small, they are not Romans who used tower shields. Phalanx gets bonus dmg vs horses. It is known. Dario = Euron is easily top 3 fan theory right up with Howland reed= High sparrow, and Westeros is ran by a secret society of merlings? Jon snow = targaryen, his mother is lyanna stark we all know that, i was being sarcastic, enumerating ridiculous theories, to signal that Euron= Daario is in line with those, and not a top 3 theory. As far as certainty goes the most obvious ones are 1. R+L = J 2. Sarella Sand= Alleras the sphinx third one is up for grabs, Jojen being dead is confirmed by the show, though the Jojen-paste might be too much, but im a believer. Actually no, Jamie killing Cersei would be my nr 3, but im sure many would disagree. Who is Alleras the Sphinx?
Oldtown character, he/she appears in a few chapters, Sam meets with him/her
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Alleras
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I personally think the Howland Reed = High Sparrow one actually has a bit of merit. I mean it isn't R+L=J but it wouldn't surprise me if that turned out to be true.
Daario = Euron doesn't make sense to me but the recasting of Daario might suggest it's a possibility. Michiel Huisman is pretty much the way I imagined Euron to look.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
There was a recent Longclaw = Blackfyre theory that piqued my interests the other day. for the curious
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On June 10 2015 21:57 Mikau wrote:
I personally think the Howland Reed = High Sparrow one actually has a bit of merit. I mean it isn't R+L=J but it wouldn't surprise me if that turned out to be true.
It has no merit at all. Some people, for some reason, want it to be true, and there isn't any hard evidence against it, so they are imposible to shut up. Is it impossible that it's true? No, but there is absolutely no evidence suggesting it.
- High Sparrow is petite. Crannogmen are petite.
- High Sparrow has mud colored eyes. Crannogmen love mud. (let's ignore that Howland Reed's kids have green eyes)
- Howland Reed was at some point probably moving south.
This is less than nothing.
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On June 10 2015 21:51 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 21:45 saltywet wrote:On June 10 2015 17:49 Geo.Rion wrote:On June 10 2015 16:23 Cricketer12 wrote:On June 10 2015 12:56 TheFish7 wrote:Guys, they already casted Euron: + Show Spoiler +On June 09 2015 22:56 -Archangel- wrote:On June 09 2015 22:53 Geo.Rion wrote:On June 09 2015 18:06 AndreWiles wrote:On June 09 2015 16:25 Spaylz wrote:On June 09 2015 15:39 AndreWiles wrote:
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How do the unsullied beat anyone in the field? They seem to all be spearmen, in which case cavalry archers, aka dothraki would destroy them in the open. In the books, we hear a lot about the story involving the Unsullied beating back a Dothraki horde when they were outnumbered something crazy, like 8 to 1. According to the book and the history within it, it all came down to formation. I don't think the poor performance of the Unsullied on the show is due to Dany misusing them. The Unsullied aren't some sort of niche soldiers. They're supposed to be fairly polyvalent soldiers. On the asoiaf wiki, it's even specified that they make excellent guardsmen, and are also at their best in the phalanx battle formation. As sad as it is, the Unsullied's poor performance on the show comes down to bad choreography/cinematography, and plot. As we've all seen, the choreography really has taken a severe hit this season. It's not just the Unsullied. edit: according to the wiki, the odds of the Dothraki battle were more like 1:5. Yeah i've read about that, the dothraki must have been dumb enough to try and engage in melee combat. It doesn't make any sense if it was otherwise, any wise strategist would just rain arrows down on the spearmen and gallop away when the spearmen got close. Well, no, cuz the Unsullied are disciplined and can set up a shield-turtle kinda formation with their round shields, i think something like that was even shown in the books at one point or another. I think the "usual" response to static shield bearers by mounted fighters is to run them down, however the Unsullied do not break, they hold formation so trying to brake their lines with a charge is highly ineffective. At least that s how i pictured the Dothraki vs Unsullied battle, im no military expert Their shields are too small, they are not Romans who used tower shields. Phalanx gets bonus dmg vs horses. It is known. Dario = Euron is easily top 3 fan theory right up with Howland reed= High sparrow, and Westeros is ran by a secret society of merlings? Jon snow = targaryen, his mother is lyanna stark we all know that, i was being sarcastic, enumerating ridiculous theories, to signal that Euron= Daario is in line with those, and not a top 3 theory. As far as certainty goes the most obvious ones are 1. R+L = J 2. Sarella Sand= Alleras the sphinx third one is up for grabs, Jojen being dead is confirmed by the show, though the Jojen-paste might be too much, but im a believer. Actually no, Jamie killing Cersei would be my nr 3, but im sure many would disagree. EDIT> Sorry, forgot about the Clegane brothers nr 3. Hound = Gravedigger, Gregor = Robert Strong
In the category of almost-sure theory I would name the Frey pie one, so that's 5 theories which are almost proven.
Is there any other in this category ?
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On June 10 2015 21:51 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 21:45 saltywet wrote:On June 10 2015 17:49 Geo.Rion wrote:On June 10 2015 16:23 Cricketer12 wrote:On June 10 2015 12:56 TheFish7 wrote:Guys, they already casted Euron: + Show Spoiler +On June 09 2015 22:56 -Archangel- wrote:On June 09 2015 22:53 Geo.Rion wrote:On June 09 2015 18:06 AndreWiles wrote:On June 09 2015 16:25 Spaylz wrote:On June 09 2015 15:39 AndreWiles wrote:
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How do the unsullied beat anyone in the field? They seem to all be spearmen, in which case cavalry archers, aka dothraki would destroy them in the open. In the books, we hear a lot about the story involving the Unsullied beating back a Dothraki horde when they were outnumbered something crazy, like 8 to 1. According to the book and the history within it, it all came down to formation. I don't think the poor performance of the Unsullied on the show is due to Dany misusing them. The Unsullied aren't some sort of niche soldiers. They're supposed to be fairly polyvalent soldiers. On the asoiaf wiki, it's even specified that they make excellent guardsmen, and are also at their best in the phalanx battle formation. As sad as it is, the Unsullied's poor performance on the show comes down to bad choreography/cinematography, and plot. As we've all seen, the choreography really has taken a severe hit this season. It's not just the Unsullied. edit: according to the wiki, the odds of the Dothraki battle were more like 1:5. Yeah i've read about that, the dothraki must have been dumb enough to try and engage in melee combat. It doesn't make any sense if it was otherwise, any wise strategist would just rain arrows down on the spearmen and gallop away when the spearmen got close. Well, no, cuz the Unsullied are disciplined and can set up a shield-turtle kinda formation with their round shields, i think something like that was even shown in the books at one point or another. I think the "usual" response to static shield bearers by mounted fighters is to run them down, however the Unsullied do not break, they hold formation so trying to brake their lines with a charge is highly ineffective. At least that s how i pictured the Dothraki vs Unsullied battle, im no military expert Their shields are too small, they are not Romans who used tower shields. Phalanx gets bonus dmg vs horses. It is known. Dario = Euron is easily top 3 fan theory right up with Howland reed= High sparrow, and Westeros is ran by a secret society of merlings? Jon snow = targaryen, his mother is lyanna stark we all know that, i was being sarcastic, enumerating ridiculous theories, to signal that Euron= Daario is in line with those, and not a top 3 theory. As far as certainty goes the most obvious ones are 1. R+L = J 2. Sarella Sand= Alleras the sphinx third one is up for grabs, Jojen being dead is confirmed by the show, though the Jojen-paste might be too much, but im a believer. Actually no, Jamie killing Cersei would be my nr 3, but im sure many would disagree. EDIT> Sorry, forgot about the Clegane brothers nr 3. Hound = Gravedigger, Gregor = Robert Strong
Jaime killing Cersei is top 3 for me. It was what I immediatly thought of when I read Maggy's prophecy for the first time and then I saw others agreed with me.
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On June 10 2015 21:43 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 20:16 -Archangel- wrote:But Reed follows Old Gods. How would he even fake being such a devoted follower of the Seven. I don't even.. precisely Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 20:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:
So you other guys have no opinion on a possible Euron casting?
Most tinfoil theories are fun to read, but what worries me is that a lot of people actually believe stuff like Daario = Euron or HR = HS.
The only real tinfoil theory i can see happening is (f)Aegon (f)aegon is not a tinfoil theory, there s very strong textual proof that he is not in fact the son of Rhaegar. Now who he is exactly, there are some pretty wild ideas regarding taht, but the main theory is that one way or another he's a Blackfyre descendant, and while this is by no means proven, there s reasonable doubt. And there are just way too many mentions in prophecies and Quaith's warnings about fake-dragons, mummer's dragons etc. for him to be simply who Gryff and co. says he is.
Well i believe in it too, but i just call any theory which isn't on the same lvl as R+L=J tinfoil for now :D
TWOW can't come soon enough!
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