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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
June 08 2015 18:47 GMT
#12681
meanwhile, no one cares about drogon :'(
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
June 08 2015 18:48 GMT
#12682
On June 09 2015 03:37 Sholip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2015 03:23 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On June 09 2015 03:14 jinorazi wrote:
next episode might be epic if they want to throw everything in there.
arya getting blinded, jon getting stabbed, daenerys meeting horde, battle between stannis and roose, cercei walk of shame.

arya and jon will bring so many tears from stark fans. cercei's walk will be joff's death 2.0.

seriously, this could be the most epic-est episode.

I have a feeling Jon getting stabbed is now going to be next season, that is just too much to do, Probably battle with Stannnis, Cersei walk and end with Arya getting blinded.

Going to be a lot of mad feminists after this season lol. Sansa rape+Shireen burning+Cersei walk and Arya getting blinded. They were already pissed and with all these bad things happening to women I expect a fuck ton of back lash incoming.

IMDb says for Episode 10: "Stannis marches. Dany is surrounded by strangers. Cersei seeks forgiveness. Jon is challenged."

This indicates pretty clearly that Jon will be stabbed in this this season. It wouldn't make much sense to build up the whole Olly story only to let it play out the next season when no-one remembers who the kid is.
Also, I somehow don't think the Cersei walk will induce quite as much "mad feminism" as the Sansa thing did (well, maybe it will, we shall see). But yeah, the finale will be epic as hell for sure. I don't even know how this will all fit into one episode. I hope they won't cut the Stannis battle too short, but if done decently, that alone should take at least 15 minutes, unless somehow Stannis' army is seriously butchered.

Ahh I didn't read the IMDB for it, but it would make sense for it to happen with the build up this season, just didn't think they'd be able to fit all of it in one episode properly.
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scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
June 08 2015 18:49 GMT
#12683
On June 09 2015 03:23 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2015 03:14 jinorazi wrote:
next episode might be epic if they want to throw everything in there.
arya getting blinded, jon getting stabbed, daenerys meeting horde, battle between stannis and roose, cercei walk of shame.

arya and jon will bring so many tears from stark fans. cercei's walk will be joff's death 2.0.

seriously, this could be the most epic-est episode.

I have a feeling Jon getting stabbed is now going to be next season, that is just too much to do, Probably battle with Stannnis, Cersei walk and end with Arya getting blinded.

Going to be a lot of mad feminists after this season lol. Sansa rape+Shireen burning+Cersei walk and Arya getting blinded. They were already pissed and with all these bad things happening to women I expect a fuck ton of back lash incoming.


They wouldn't have built up Olly questioning Jon so much this season if they're not going to Caesar him in episode 10. Casual viewers have a too short a memory for this to carry over to another season.
You're like a one ranger army comin' at me...
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
June 08 2015 18:55 GMT
#12684
On June 09 2015 03:37 Sholip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2015 03:23 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On June 09 2015 03:14 jinorazi wrote:
next episode might be epic if they want to throw everything in there.
arya getting blinded, jon getting stabbed, daenerys meeting horde, battle between stannis and roose, cercei walk of shame.

arya and jon will bring so many tears from stark fans. cercei's walk will be joff's death 2.0.

seriously, this could be the most epic-est episode.

I have a feeling Jon getting stabbed is now going to be next season, that is just too much to do, Probably battle with Stannnis, Cersei walk and end with Arya getting blinded.

Going to be a lot of mad feminists after this season lol. Sansa rape+Shireen burning+Cersei walk and Arya getting blinded. They were already pissed and with all these bad things happening to women I expect a fuck ton of back lash incoming.

IMDb says for Episode 10: "Stannis marches. Dany is surrounded by strangers. Cersei seeks forgiveness. Jon is challenged."

This indicates pretty clearly that Jon will be stabbed in this this season. It wouldn't make much sense to build up the whole Olly story only to let it play out the next season when no-one remembers who the kid is.
Also, I somehow don't think the Cersei walk will induce quite as much "mad feminism" as the Sansa thing did (well, maybe it will, we shall see). But yeah, the finale will be epic as hell for sure. I don't even know how this will all fit into one episode. I hope they won't cut the Stannis battle too short, but if done decently, that alone should take at least 15 minutes, unless somehow Stannis' army is seriously butchered.


I don't see the Battle of Winterfell happening at all. They'll probably just set it up and have it start next season, just like it will start tWoW.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
June 08 2015 18:58 GMT
#12685
On June 09 2015 03:55 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2015 03:37 Sholip wrote:
On June 09 2015 03:23 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On June 09 2015 03:14 jinorazi wrote:
next episode might be epic if they want to throw everything in there.
arya getting blinded, jon getting stabbed, daenerys meeting horde, battle between stannis and roose, cercei walk of shame.

arya and jon will bring so many tears from stark fans. cercei's walk will be joff's death 2.0.

seriously, this could be the most epic-est episode.

I have a feeling Jon getting stabbed is now going to be next season, that is just too much to do, Probably battle with Stannnis, Cersei walk and end with Arya getting blinded.

Going to be a lot of mad feminists after this season lol. Sansa rape+Shireen burning+Cersei walk and Arya getting blinded. They were already pissed and with all these bad things happening to women I expect a fuck ton of back lash incoming.

IMDb says for Episode 10: "Stannis marches. Dany is surrounded by strangers. Cersei seeks forgiveness. Jon is challenged."

This indicates pretty clearly that Jon will be stabbed in this this season. It wouldn't make much sense to build up the whole Olly story only to let it play out the next season when no-one remembers who the kid is.
Also, I somehow don't think the Cersei walk will induce quite as much "mad feminism" as the Sansa thing did (well, maybe it will, we shall see). But yeah, the finale will be epic as hell for sure. I don't even know how this will all fit into one episode. I hope they won't cut the Stannis battle too short, but if done decently, that alone should take at least 15 minutes, unless somehow Stannis' army is seriously butchered.


I don't see the Battle of Winterfell happening at all. They'll probably just set it up and have it start next season, just like it will start tWoW.


except the preview has stannis and a bunch of men preparing for some sort of fight, seeing as they draw their swords and i believe stannis said something along the lines of "the siege starts at nightfall", or something like that anyway... so it seems to me there will be a fight to conclude that
Sholip
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
Hungary422 Posts
June 08 2015 19:04 GMT
#12686
On June 09 2015 03:41 jinorazi wrote:
If I recall ep 10 are extnded. I sure hope so so they can fit all that in

I think not. Season 4 Episode 10 was definitely not extended, and I think others weren't either. Some major events do tend to happen in the finales, but not this many. It may be doable if they execute properly and maybe add some extra time, but I definitely have my fears.
"A hero is no braver than an ordinary man, but he is brave five minutes longer. Also, Zest is best." – Ralph Waldo Emerson
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-08 19:19:33
June 08 2015 19:18 GMT
#12687
episode 10 for seasons 2 and 4 were 65 minutes, i'd assume it can happen again for season 5 and extra 10 minutes enough to be presentable.
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Sholip
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
Hungary422 Posts
June 08 2015 19:44 GMT
#12688
Fair enough. Any added time would just be for the better, in my opinion.
"A hero is no braver than an ordinary man, but he is brave five minutes longer. Also, Zest is best." – Ralph Waldo Emerson
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
June 08 2015 20:19 GMT
#12689
Isn't the total season 10 hours?
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
June 08 2015 20:23 GMT
#12690
The march on Winterfell makes no sense whatsoever. None. Roose Bolton is inside Winterfell with 6000 men and provisions to last them 6 months. Stannis is outside Winterfell with 3000 men, his siege weapons burnt, no food, and winter is coming. He sacrificed Shireen for some nice weather? The northern lords could rally to him and together they could make something happen. But again - Roose is at an insane advantage. Unless he gets something else from the red god other than melting snow, you can put a fork in Stannis because he's done.
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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
June 08 2015 20:25 GMT
#12691
On June 09 2015 05:23 Emon_ wrote:
The march on Winterfell makes no sense whatsoever. None. Roose Bolton is inside Winterfell with 6000 men and provisions to last them 6 months. Stannis is outside Winterfell with 3000 men, his siege weapons burnt, no food, and winter is coming. He sacrificed Shireen for some nice weather? The northern lords could rally to him and together they could make something happen. But again - Roose is at an insane advantage. Unless he gets something else from the red god other than melting snow, you can put a fork in Stannis because he's done.


he is attacking because there are no other options. not enough provisions to go back so they die, only way to survive is to take winterfell or die trying. as for the reason of attacking winterfell from the wall, stannis said winter is coming and if they dont move now they'll be stuck at the wall for years.
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HerrHorst
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany140 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-08 20:27:11
June 08 2015 20:26 GMT
#12692
Has Stannis really only 3000 Men? Wasn't there talk by Bolton that he cannot attack Stannis because he is so superior?
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-08 20:31:09
June 08 2015 20:30 GMT
#12693
Maybe Rickon will suddenly appear again with House Umber and support Stannis to take back the north.
I mean Reek revealed to Sansa last episode that Bran and Rickon arent dead. Somebody said Bran and Hodor wont appear this season but does somebody know about Rickon? I think it would make sense, when Stannis is in such a bad position! At least its a way out, it would seem like a miracle, but then Shireen's sacrifice doesnt seem so meaningless.

Otherwise there will have to be some cliffhangers, not everything will be resolved.


On June 09 2015 05:26 HerrHorst wrote:
Has Stannis really only 3000 Men? Wasn't there talk by Bolton that he cannot attack Stannis because he is so superior?


They said the weather is too bad to march an army against him.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9330 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-08 20:35:20
June 08 2015 20:32 GMT
#12694
On June 09 2015 05:23 Emon_ wrote:
The march on Winterfell makes no sense whatsoever. None.


Stannis wanted to take the North before winter. Spending the whole winter at the Wall would lose him the war.

On June 09 2015 05:26 HerrHorst wrote:
Wasn't there talk by Bolton that he cannot attack Stannis because he is so superior?


Bolton said they have no reason to leave Winterfell because it gives them a defensive advantage, not because they can't fight Stannis in the open
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Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-08 21:15:30
June 08 2015 21:04 GMT
#12695
Why are people even proposing that Shireen might burn in the books. It's ridiculous.

First of all it can't happen. Mel is at CB, Shireen is at Eastwatch* (correction), and Stannis is at Winterfell. End.

...but there is more.

Book Stannis is the founding member of the "Mel is just a charlatan" club. He is using her, she is using him, they both know it and per Mel have known it all along. He wouldn't make a giant compromise for her. He doesn't think he is some kind of prince who was promised who has to be the one to win this. He even made some preparations to the effect of ensuring that the war could go on without him with the intent of placing Shireen on the throne.

If she burns it will be under very different circumstances to the point that the comparison between the events is pointless. It might as well be a different character.

TWOW
+ Show Spoiler +
The thing it might map to is the threatened burning of Asha, but I think he might need her to prove Theon's identity and nullify the kingsmoot. That is his best weapon to handle the Iron Islands right now.


On June 08 2015 22:01 GumBa wrote:
TV Stannis was never Book stannis so idc. At this point LF should just win it all.


Yes! Bring on the converts! There is always more room for supporters of the king over the ashes.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
June 08 2015 22:00 GMT
#12696
On June 09 2015 03:58 Koerage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2015 03:55 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On June 09 2015 03:37 Sholip wrote:
On June 09 2015 03:23 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On June 09 2015 03:14 jinorazi wrote:
next episode might be epic if they want to throw everything in there.
arya getting blinded, jon getting stabbed, daenerys meeting horde, battle between stannis and roose, cercei walk of shame.

arya and jon will bring so many tears from stark fans. cercei's walk will be joff's death 2.0.

seriously, this could be the most epic-est episode.

I have a feeling Jon getting stabbed is now going to be next season, that is just too much to do, Probably battle with Stannnis, Cersei walk and end with Arya getting blinded.

Going to be a lot of mad feminists after this season lol. Sansa rape+Shireen burning+Cersei walk and Arya getting blinded. They were already pissed and with all these bad things happening to women I expect a fuck ton of back lash incoming.

IMDb says for Episode 10: "Stannis marches. Dany is surrounded by strangers. Cersei seeks forgiveness. Jon is challenged."

This indicates pretty clearly that Jon will be stabbed in this this season. It wouldn't make much sense to build up the whole Olly story only to let it play out the next season when no-one remembers who the kid is.
Also, I somehow don't think the Cersei walk will induce quite as much "mad feminism" as the Sansa thing did (well, maybe it will, we shall see). But yeah, the finale will be epic as hell for sure. I don't even know how this will all fit into one episode. I hope they won't cut the Stannis battle too short, but if done decently, that alone should take at least 15 minutes, unless somehow Stannis' army is seriously butchered.


I don't see the Battle of Winterfell happening at all. They'll probably just set it up and have it start next season, just like it will start tWoW.


except the preview has stannis and a bunch of men preparing for some sort of fight, seeing as they draw their swords and i believe stannis said something along the lines of "the siege starts at nightfall", or something like that anyway... so it seems to me there will be a fight to conclude that


They could easily just be marching (explicitly in the episode description) or just start the siege. As far as I've heard, there haven't been any kind of spoilers about the shooting/making of a second major battle scene this season.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
June 08 2015 22:54 GMT
#12697
Question: did the TV show ever explain why Stannis decided that going north to help the Night's Watch was the absolute most important place to go in his quest to take the throne?

I vaguely remember ravens getting sent out across the kingdom when the Night's Watch got destroyed by a zombie army, but did they ever expand on that?
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TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
June 08 2015 23:16 GMT
#12698
I would think we'd see Reek+Sansa escaping Winterfell, and I would guess that Brienne is sort of taking Asha's place now? Then of course Dany's meeting the Khalasar, Cersei's walk of shame, then Jon stabbed, massive cliffhanger, fade to black.
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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
June 08 2015 23:18 GMT
#12699
On June 09 2015 07:54 dudeman001 wrote:
Question: did the TV show ever explain why Stannis decided that going north to help the Night's Watch was the absolute most important place to go in his quest to take the throne?

I vaguely remember ravens getting sent out across the kingdom when the Night's Watch got destroyed by a zombie army, but did they ever expand on that?


It was a pretty quick scene, Sam returned to the wall with Gilly and explained the situation to Maester Aemon. He was like "SEND RAVENS TO EVERYONE". Ser Davos got one of those messages and convinced Stannis that he is needed at the Wall. Took like 5 minutes of screentime :D
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Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
June 08 2015 23:40 GMT
#12700
On June 09 2015 08:18 KadaverBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2015 07:54 dudeman001 wrote:
Question: did the TV show ever explain why Stannis decided that going north to help the Night's Watch was the absolute most important place to go in his quest to take the throne?

I vaguely remember ravens getting sent out across the kingdom when the Night's Watch got destroyed by a zombie army, but did they ever expand on that?


It was a pretty quick scene, Sam returned to the wall with Gilly and explained the situation to Maester Aemon. He was like "SEND RAVENS TO EVERYONE". Ser Davos got one of those messages and convinced Stannis that he is needed at the Wall. Took like 5 minutes of screentime :D


Yep. It wasn't good too. Stannis wasn't listening to Davos, and only changed his mind when Melisandre said Davos was right.

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