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[TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion - Page 534
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shark.
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xuanzue
Colombia1747 Posts
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lilopuppy
Philippines542 Posts
On June 13 2014 04:11 shark. wrote: I read another theory regarding CLEGANBOWL!!!! that I thought was quite fun. Less HYPE but cool nonetheless i thought. http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/236dsl/cleganebowl_my_alternate_theory_plus_a_few_other/ I'm kinda sad of the fact that "theory" has been misused and abused by the internet, at least in the scientific way, that mere coincidences are considered theories. Special Relativity, Wave Theory, Big Bang Theory, those are theories. These don't even come close to hypotheses. The word's been so brought so down low that people ignore Evolution or Climate Change because it's just a "theory". /rant over | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
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Laurens
Belgium4553 Posts
How evil is Martin for leaving us at such a big cliffhanger for YEARS? | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On June 13 2014 15:33 Laurens wrote: Ah, those poor people in the other thread claiming Jon Snow has plot armor, if only they knew. How evil is Martin for leaving us at such a big cliffhanger for YEARS? He has so much plot armor that almost noone believes he is dead. This really isn't the best example of them being wrong, or any diferent from everyone else. It's the same with Dany, noone thinks she is screwed because the dothraki found her in the end of the book, her story isn't over. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On June 13 2014 04:31 xuanzue wrote: I'm fine if the spoiler whiners quit this thread. Me too. On June 13 2014 15:33 Laurens wrote: Ah, those poor people in the other thread claiming Jon Snow has plot armor, if only they knew. How evil is Martin for leaving us at such a big cliffhanger for YEARS? Well, it lets us theorycraft about the future content for years. The fun!!  | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4553 Posts
On June 13 2014 15:35 SKC wrote: He has so much plot armor that almost noone believes he is dead. This really isn't the best example of them being wrong, or any diferent from everyone else. It's the same with Dany, noone thinks she is screwed because the dothraki found her in the end of the book, her story isn't over. Well presumably the next season of the show, or the one after, will have this scene as a cliffhanger and their beliefs will be shattered, that's what I meant mostly. Whether he's dead or not is a debate that could go on forever. He gets stabbed multiple times and "he never felt the fourth knife. Only the cold..." isn't looking good. I personally believe he's dead, but will get revived. Melisandre is conveniently close-by. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On June 13 2014 15:47 Laurens wrote: Well presumably the next season of the show, or the one after, will have this scene as a cliffhanger and their beliefs will be shattered, that's what I meant mostly. Whether he's dead or not is a debate that could go on forever. He gets stabbed multiple times and "he never felt the fourth knife. Only the cold..." isn't looking good. I personally believe he's dead, but will get revived. Melisandre is conveniently close-by. Well, dieing and being revived fits the plot armor point. He would have to be gone for good, so being revived/warging into ghost/etc. would still mean the character is too importatnt to be killed off. How it will look on the show depends mostly on what they show of the hints behind it. If they make the effort to fit the warg prequel or something similar, as well the Melisandre's prophecies of snow, etc. it should be even more obvious that he isn't gone. Martin can always write some red herrings and call it a day, which is why talking about plot armor in this series is kinda dumb. It's not Harry Potter where you know he can't die in the first book. But as far as being somewhat safe, Jon is pretty much up there. Attempting to mislead the audience too much feels cheap and is not really the best way to do things, some things have to be predictable. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On June 13 2014 15:33 Laurens wrote: Ah, those poor people in the other thread claiming Jon Snow has plot armor, if only they knew. How evil is Martin for leaving us at such a big cliffhanger for YEARS? I didn't even see it as a cliffhanger tbh. Well, maybe in the sense of "I wonder what will happen to make Jon alright". Jon and Dany have pretty much infinite plot armor. | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
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Koerage
Netherlands1220 Posts
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Figgy
Canada1788 Posts
On June 11 2014 15:21 Lord Tolkien wrote: Trial by Combat isn't impartial. It's literally whoever has the most influence to have the command of a powerful swordsman, if you aren't one yourself. AKA the most influential/richest will generally win. In a sense Tyrion was guilty because his action throughout his entire time at Kings Landing singlehandedly made the killer impossible to find and the killing of his father proved he was outright capable and willing to cause the death and downfall to his entire family. In a sense wishing your whole family dead and be willing to do it in the right circumstances just may be enough for the 7 to declare you guilty, even if you weren't actually the one who pulled the trigger. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On June 13 2014 22:13 Figgy wrote: In a sense Tyrion was guilty because his action throughout his entire time at Kings Landing singlehandedly made the killer impossible to find and the killing of his father proved he was outright capable and willing to cause the death and downfall to his entire family. In a sense wishing your whole family dead and be willing to do it in the right circumstances just may be enough for the 7 to declare you guilty, even if you weren't actually the one who pulled the trigger. That's quite the stretch. You might as well say it was all Cersei's fault for being such a bad mother, resulting in an evil little brat that needed to be killed for the good of the realm. | ||
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esKq
France134 Posts
The Red God seems to grant his followers magic powers, what about the 7 ? | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
The Seven haven't shown anything at all so far. Nobody who worships them seems to have any actual magical power. | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:50 Koerage wrote: Same goes to some others right now; i dont think Cercei/Ariana/Tyrion will die soon (they might die near the end of book 6) and Jaime will at least get one more chapter i feel; depending on him&LSH it might be alot more. I feel his arch is still far from complete and survives till the very end, but perhaps im completely wrong there Cersei I think could very realistically die. Tyrion and Ariana are in the midst of moving bits of plot around, so killing them off seems kind of silly. Cersei is more or less in a holding pattern, and it would be very GRRM if she died in King's Landing to something random, rather than dying to one of the dozen characters that want to kill her. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
Assuming it's the other branch of Lannisters that inherits Casterly Rock that is? I don't exactly remember what the deal was with that. | ||
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esKq
France134 Posts
On June 13 2014 23:36 Requizen wrote: Cersei is more or less in a holding pattern, and it would be very GRRM if she died in King's Landing to something random, rather than dying to one of the dozen characters that want to kill her. I believe Cersei will recover from everything that happened to her in the last 2 books, she will probably be saved (again) by Robert the Strong in her upcoming trial by combat. Although her future involvement in the serie is a mistery to me, she has no more influence in Kings Landing and wasn't known to have many friend in high places that could help her regain status. However I don't believe her death would mean anything right now, everything that defined her has been striped away from her. I don't recalled her state of mind in her last POV chapter, I believed she gave up at the end of her walk of shame only to be carried off by Robert the Strong. That doesn't mean she is a gonner but still she's definitly not in good shape. | ||
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