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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
Click Here for the spoiler-free thread.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-12 10:40:11
June 12 2014 10:38 GMT
#10641
On June 12 2014 19:21 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 15:04 Falling wrote:
On June 12 2014 11:23 Yhamm wrote:
it is nobody's choice but mine to decide if it is a big deal or not.
I don't want to be spoiled of what will happen in the show before if actually airs on TV, the same way viewers don't want to be spoiled of what happen in the books. Why, even though I read the books? because they are 2 different things and it ruin the fun I have when I watch the series.
I thought there was a rule on the tv thread to speak about the preview only in spoilers but somehow it is spoken openly here

This is the spoiler thread. We cannot have 4 game of thrones threads. (1 tv only, no spoilers, 1 book only, 1 tv & book spoilers, 1 tv & book no spoilers.)

I'm only asking to have the same rule about tv preview on both threads, I don't think that's so hard now, is it?


But then we would need a third FULL SPOILER thread for us that like to talk about everything.

It's not just about "putting things in spoiler tags", it's about constantly having to worry and double check yourself to make sure there are no accidental slip ups.

Spoiler-friendly threads are a bitch to post in, and at least we didn't have to worry about it in this one. I read the books so long ago that at this point I don't even remember what's in the books and what's in the show and what's different, and I just want a place to post whatever I feel like saying without having to stress about spoiling people, or read without having to navigate through multiple nested spoiler tags.
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
June 12 2014 11:08 GMT
#10642
I don't get what the big deal is about the Brienne/Sandor thing. So what if it isn't in the books, it literally doesn't matter at all. It's just a way for the show to make Brienne's arc not completely boring, and a way to "kill" Sandor and let Arya go to Braavos.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
June 12 2014 11:18 GMT
#10643
On June 12 2014 20:08 Mikau wrote:
I don't get what the big deal is about the Brienne/Sandor thing. So what if it isn't in the books, it literally doesn't matter at all. It's just a way for the show to make Brienne's arc not completely boring, and a way to "kill" Sandor and let Arya go to Braavos.

Yeah I also think this is a change for the better. Brienne from here on would be stupidly boring on TV. The only thing is how they are going to make Aryas escape happen. Will she just run away? Brienne surely would take her in once she knows that Arya is Arya.
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Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
June 12 2014 11:23 GMT
#10644
On June 12 2014 19:38 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 19:21 Yhamm wrote:
On June 12 2014 15:04 Falling wrote:
On June 12 2014 11:23 Yhamm wrote:
it is nobody's choice but mine to decide if it is a big deal or not.
I don't want to be spoiled of what will happen in the show before if actually airs on TV, the same way viewers don't want to be spoiled of what happen in the books. Why, even though I read the books? because they are 2 different things and it ruin the fun I have when I watch the series.
I thought there was a rule on the tv thread to speak about the preview only in spoilers but somehow it is spoken openly here

This is the spoiler thread. We cannot have 4 game of thrones threads. (1 tv only, no spoilers, 1 book only, 1 tv & book spoilers, 1 tv & book no spoilers.)

I'm only asking to have the same rule about tv preview on both threads, I don't think that's so hard now, is it?


But then we would need a third FULL SPOILER thread for us that like to talk about everything.

It's not just about "putting things in spoiler tags", it's about constantly having to worry and double check yourself to make sure there are no accidental slip ups.

Spoiler-friendly threads are a bitch to post in, and at least we didn't have to worry about it in this one. I read the books so long ago that at this point I don't even remember what's in the books and what's in the show and what's different, and I just want a place to post whatever I feel like saying without having to stress about spoiling people, or read without having to navigate through multiple nested spoiler tags.

You can still talk about things, just put them in spoilers. It's really not that hard. We're talking about major things like preview chapters and major new revelations from the show (from future episodes).

Smaller things like Sandor/Brienne I would also like to see in spoilers until the episode airs, but I could live with that either way. But if there's a leak tomorrow that reveals that a future episode shows Tyrion riding a dragon or whatever.. yeah, that ought to be in spoilers.
Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-12 11:49:15
June 12 2014 11:48 GMT
#10645
so basically spoilers for stuff that's completely new (as in; not yet happened in the books&is important) till an episode airs, conti?
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
June 12 2014 12:52 GMT
#10646
On June 12 2014 15:25 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 15:18 dudeman001 wrote:
We could use a GoT subforum


Or a full blown LiquidWesteros.com

With house emblem icons and a new calendar.

Damn that would be so sick.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
June 12 2014 12:58 GMT
#10647
On June 12 2014 21:52 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 15:25 Talin wrote:
On June 12 2014 15:18 dudeman001 wrote:
We could use a GoT subforum


Or a full blown LiquidWesteros.com

With house emblem icons and a new calendar.

Damn that would be so sick.


One site won't do:

LiquidWesterosForBookReaders.com and LiquidWesterosForShowViewers.com
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
June 12 2014 13:00 GMT
#10648
On June 12 2014 20:48 Koerage wrote:
so basically spoilers for stuff that's completely new (as in; not yet happened in the books&is important) till an episode airs, conti?

Pretty much, yes. That'd be my version of "common sense".
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
June 12 2014 13:28 GMT
#10649
I'll adhere to spoilering TV leaks/new book chapters discussion! Cheers!

+ Show Spoiler +
Nothing here, sorry
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-12 13:29:30
June 12 2014 13:29 GMT
#10650
What a troll xD
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
June 12 2014 14:11 GMT
#10651
Summary of what we can expect in the next episode, based on trailers, interviews, emmy submission and other outside sources:

+ Show Spoiler +


What we know

•66 minute episode
•Stannis’s troops save the day (from the promo)
•Dany chains her dragons (promo)
•Cersei kisses Jaime (promo)
•Tyrion is freed (foreshadowing video includes shot of Tyrion in a the tunnel with Jaime, promo shot of Varys)
•Tyrion finds Shae in his father’s bed (one of the pre-season trailers)
•Tyrion creeps towards Tywin’s door with a crossbow (promo) and likely kills him (soundtrack title “You are no son of mine”)
• We get a scene with Qyburn, The Mountain, and Cersei (interview with the actor who plays Qyburn)
•Brienne and The Hound fight, Brienne bites his ear off and his leg gets broken (promo shot of the Hound talking to someone in her armor, Emmy prosthetics submission description of The Hound missing an ear and having a broken leg, Christie’s interview in a foreshadowing where she tells us she bites off a man’s ear)
•Wights attack Bran (Emmy description, discussion of “battle” in the final episode that is very heavy on special effects)
•Bran meets childred of the forest and Bloodraven (Emmy prosthetics description, casting news, shot of Bran in cave from season trailers)
•Ayra boards a ship (ship captain was cast)
•Actress who plays Mel talked about riding a horse, and there’s a shot of her with a wall of ice.

Speculation

•Dany chains the dragons because one eats a child, foreshadowed by the goat eating earlier this season, and that is what happened in the book. Would tie to the Children title too.
•Cersei will either strongly hint or outright tell Tywin she and Jaime made her kids (her line from the trailer)
•LS will may be in, Brienne may be involved , (Headey’s spoilery Instagram shot, Fairley’s evasive answer in a recent interview)
•There’s a slight chance Rickon will appear (Osha credited on IMDB, but very dubious source)
•There’s an even slighter chance Tywin will imply that Tyrion is the Mad King’s son based on someone who claimed he has seen the episode early. Even if the guy did see the episode, it is most likely Tywin says much like in the book that "You are no son of mine.", meaning he is disowning him, not that he literally isn't his son.
•It is unlikely that we’ll see Sansa, Littlefinger or the Boltons (most people’s prediction based on time constraints and the momentous feel of their final scenes).
•Unlikely to have any more Greyjoy, or Martel scenes. Brief or no Tyrell scenes either.
• Unlikely to have time to do the lord commander vote for the Night's Watch

CobaltBlu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States919 Posts
June 12 2014 16:08 GMT
#10652
I could imagine a circumstance where Brienne messes The Hound up but gets knocked out or incapacitated somehow. That would give Arya a chance to escape. I can't think of many other circumstances where Arya gets off on her own in a way that makes sense.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
June 12 2014 16:17 GMT
#10653
I don't see why it's unreasonable for Arya to simply run away while they fight.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 12 2014 16:28 GMT
#10654
Wait... doesn't this somewhat change the dynamics of the Hound = Gravedigger theories?

When Brienne goes to the Quiet Isle, she sees the Gravedigger (and the black horse that's likely Stranger). She had never met Sandor in the books, so there was no way for her to recognize him. But now, if they fight, it would be really unlikely that even with a hood up she would not realize who he is.

Assuming the Quiet Isle scenes happen next season.
It's your boy Guzma!
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
June 12 2014 16:46 GMT
#10655
On June 12 2014 21:52 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 15:25 Talin wrote:
On June 12 2014 15:18 dudeman001 wrote:
We could use a GoT subforum


Or a full blown LiquidWesteros.com

With house emblem icons and a new calendar.

Damn that would be so sick.



The Winds of Winter - <null>
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
June 12 2014 16:47 GMT
#10656
Question: are we actually going to get lady stone heart? Cat has been rotting in the ground for months now. I doubt there's anything left of her to revive.
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
June 12 2014 16:49 GMT
#10657
On June 12 2014 21:52 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 15:25 Talin wrote:
On June 12 2014 15:18 dudeman001 wrote:
We could use a GoT subforum


Or a full blown LiquidWesteros.com

With house emblem icons and a new calendar.

Damn that would be so sick.


What's going to be in the calendar for book readers, since TL calendar only goes to December 2015? It's going to be empty.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-12 17:05:25
June 12 2014 17:00 GMT
#10658
On June 13 2014 01:28 Requizen wrote:
Wait... doesn't this somewhat change the dynamics of the Hound = Gravedigger theories?

When Brienne goes to the Quiet Isle, she sees the Gravedigger (and the black horse that's likely Stranger). She had never met Sandor in the books, so there was no way for her to recognize him. But now, if they fight, it would be really unlikely that even with a hood up she would not realize who he is.

Assuming the Quiet Isle scenes happen next season.



The show doesn't really care about any specific details from the books. It's virtually impossible for Brienne to have the same story as the books up until she meets Lady Stoneheart at this point, so getting rid of the gravedigger wouldn't surprise me at all. I don't think it changes the book theories though, as several characters who are still alive in the books are dead now in the show.

On June 13 2014 01:47 Hyperbola wrote:
Question: are we actually going to get lady stone heart? Cat has been rotting in the ground for months now. I doubt there's anything left of her to revive.


It's hard to say. We don't see her actually being revived in the books either, so the length of time since her death doesn't matter much. The first reveal is epilogue of Storm of Swords where she hangs the Freys who come to bring ransom, which if they followed the same time line in the show would make it the last scene of the season. They could also choose to wait til next season to avoid having to cast her for just one scene, or cut her altogether and make something else up like they have done with Coldhands.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
June 12 2014 17:13 GMT
#10659
There is nothing that says that the scenes have to be filmed in the order they appear. For all we know, they could've filmed that last year. Or they could've already filmed her scenes for next year. She doesn't have that many appearances in the book.
Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
June 12 2014 18:52 GMT
#10660
They might completely skip gravedigger but that doesnt completely discard the theory; if the Hound is only heavily wounded after the fight he might re-appear later to take the role that gravedigger would take in the books (assuming he gets named champion of the faith in Cercei's trial, etc etc)
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