[TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion - Page 527

On June 11 2014 01:07 Hot_Bid wrote:

Agree.

On June 11 2014 02:36 KOFgokuon wrote:
I said this somewhere else, they're gonna run out of story with bran and sansa really fast, and without any notion of a fake arya i wonder if they'll just say SURPRISE ramsay marry this girl! half of theon's story is done too
Pacing for the next 2 seasons is gonna be strange characters are gonna disappear for half of the season

Hope Peter vaughn doesn't die he's great as aemon

On June 11 2014 02:36 KOFgokuon wrote:
I said this somewhere else, they're gonna run out of story with bran and sansa really fast, and without any notion of a fake arya i wonder if they'll just say SURPRISE ramsay marry this girl! half of theon's story is done too
Pacing for the next 2 seasons is gonna be strange characters are gonna disappear for half of the season

Hope Peter vaughn doesn't die he's great as aemon

On June 11 2014 02:36 Conti wrote:
Who says it's going to be a straight up fight? There's about a million reasons why the fight could end in Brienne's favor.

Not to mention the show has established that Brienne is one kick-ass fighter, while the Hound pretty much only kills the weak and runs away from fire. Doesn't matter what the books said about who is the better fighter.


Or the producers know more than we do. Which they do. And they know exactly how much story there is left for Sansa, so they know they can speed things up a bit and still have enough material left for two seasons. Bran only gets a few minutes every 3 episodes or so anyhow, so it's not like they need a lot of material for him in the first place.

On June 11 2014 02:33 shark. wrote:
Man it'll be a shame if Sandor loses to Brienne. I always thought he was one of the best swordsman in the series and to lose to Brienne is just sad. I mean hes bigger, stronger, faster etc and in kinda bad shape atm, but Brienne? It's gonna hurt.

On June 11 2014 03:29 ComaDose wrote:

If you think loosing to brienne is sad your power rankings are out of wack. GRRM said she's "maybe a bit shorter than the Hound", she was trained by ser Goodwin since childhood and she had to beat a suitor in single combat to stay out of dresses. Still against Loras Tyrell, the reigning tournament and crowed favorite, she beats him. Something that would probably be a challenge for a tip top shape Jamie considering Jamie lost to Loras in the joust last they met in a tournament, and Jamie calls him "too good and too young" later. Brienne also beat Jamie, and yeah he had a handicap of being starved and his hands tied but few others could have beaten him anyway. They are similar in size and while the Hound has more confirmed kills and emotional dirty fighting tactics, Brienne has more discipline and arguably more technical skill with the sword. Now that shes got legendary equipment and the Hound is injured i think its no contest.

On June 11 2014 02:54 CobaltBlu wrote:
The Hound losing to Brienne would be pretty lame but how does she lose track of Arya after that? And she would be in the Vale where Sansa just announced that she is a Stark.

On June 11 2014 03:39 Dfgj wrote:

Brienne's good because she's big and has a lot of stamina. It makes sense she can beat a weak, chained, malnourished and atrophied Jaime because fighting someone that uses a lot of strength when you're tired/weak/unable to move properly is an absolutely miserable thing. The Hound is both bigger and stronger than her, meaning her only serious attribute is irrelevant - and he's better in every other way with vastly more combat experience. No idea where you get the idea she has more technical skill or discipline. Only edge she has is the sword (which while Valyrian, is also smaller), and, yeah, almost certainly better armor.

I'd be pretty disappointed if they showed the Hound losing, in the same way they completely downplayed the fact that book-Brienne recognized Jaime was superior to her and instead had her mock him in the show.

Joust results don't mean a lot in terms of combat skill, you think Loras would beat the Mountain in a duel? We have pretty little evidence for Loras's skill - and if we take show evidence, scrawny, small Loras also disarmed Brienne before getting tackled.

On June 11 2014 03:46 ComaDose wrote:

jamie said "The wench is as strong as Gregor Clegane, though not so pretty" GRRM said shes almost as tall so its not like his height gives him an advantage. Why do you think he is better in every other way?

On June 11 2014 03:56 Dfgj wrote:

Why don't you? He has tremendously more combat experience, both in duels and in war. He almost certainly has equal training to her. He's one of the few fighters who has the strength to stand up to the Mountain (S1E5), and strength equals speed, despite what Dark Souls would have you believe.

Jaime can say what he likes in a state where he's comparatively incapable of fighting, especially when its a backhanded insult to her looks - do you genuinely think she's as strong as Gregor?