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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
Click Here for the spoiler-free thread.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
June 10 2014 10:36 GMT
#10501
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/arpLrv5_700b_v1.jpg

Haha. Sheesh.
I like words.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
June 10 2014 10:43 GMT
#10502
Hahaha

Prince Obrien ftw
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 10 2014 10:44 GMT
#10503
Haha that could be from Otaku Assemble, if anyone knows the guy.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
June 10 2014 10:57 GMT
#10504
On June 10 2014 19:36 Spaylz wrote:
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/arpLrv5_700b_v1.jpg

Haha. Sheesh.


Hahaa I want season 7 to be like that!

Having Stannis and Davos as Pinky and the Brain
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
June 10 2014 11:12 GMT
#10505
Gee, Stannis, what do you wanna do tonight?
11 years and counting- TL #680
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
June 10 2014 11:46 GMT
#10506
The same thing we do every night, Davos - try to take over King's Landing.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
sths
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Australia192 Posts
June 10 2014 12:18 GMT
#10507
On June 10 2014 19:36 Spaylz wrote:
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/arpLrv5_700b_v1.jpg

Haha. Sheesh.



Oh man if this isn't a troll post it is so funny. I could feel the rage coming through. He will be so happy when Tywin dies though.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
June 10 2014 12:31 GMT
#10508
I think you guys went a bit overboard in the other thread.

I think sc2holar is one of the few people who can actually distinctly differentiate Book!Stannis and Show!Stannis. I mean, as much as it pains me to say it, Show!Stannis is just down right awful. He really has no redeeming qualities, aside from being a badass fighter and a skilled commander. And even that transpired little in the show as of now.

I mean, come on guys, could you imagine Book!Stannis begging Melisandre for sex on a beach? Could you imagine him saying he burned that Florent guy because he was a heretic?

Face it, Show!Stannis is absolutely nothing like Book!Stannis. At this point, I doubt the characters will have anything in common anymore. Even if they do "redeem" him when he saves the Wall (and even that I am doubting... It will happen for sure, but I fear it will be belittled to no end), he will still be drastically different than he is in the books, and nowhere near as righteous or cool.

Sincerely,
A pained Book!Stannis fan
I like words.
esKq
Profile Joined April 2010
France134 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 12:41:45
June 10 2014 12:40 GMT
#10509
On June 10 2014 21:31 Spaylz wrote:
I think you guys went a bit overboard in the other thread.

I think sc2holar is one of the few people who can actually distinctly differentiate Book!Stannis and Show!Stannis. I mean, as much as it pains me to say it, Show!Stannis is just down right awful. He really has no redeeming qualities, aside from being a badass fighter and a skilled commander. And even that transpired little in the show as of now.

I mean, come on guys, could you imagine Book!Stannis begging Melisandre for sex on a beach? Could you imagine him saying he burned that Florent guy because he was a heretic?

Face it, Show!Stannis is absolutely nothing like Book!Stannis. At this point, I doubt the characters will have anything in common anymore. Even if they do "redeem" him when he saves the Wall (and even that I am doubting... It will happen for sure, but I fear it will be belittled to no end), he will still be drastically different than he is in the books, and nowhere near as righteous or cool.

Sincerely,
A pained Book!Stannis fan


I have to agree with you with fellow countryman, I lost faith in Show!Stannis when he f***ed Melisandre, throwing the honor and virtue that defined the character in the books.

I believed the showrunners are aware that no one like Stannis hence Davos' speech in front of the bank of braavos that help remind the audience that Stannis is actually a good guy

For the next season Stannis will be on the wall, far from the game of thrones. I think it will help cast a fresh light on the character for the audience.
His handling of the wilding problem and the counsel he will provide Jon will set him on the better path for the audience closer to Book!Stannis.

I think.
IdrA : "I don't play Terran coz I have self respect"
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
June 10 2014 12:43 GMT
#10510
Just for the record. I didn't say shit.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 10 2014 12:44 GMT
#10511
On June 10 2014 21:40 esKq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 21:31 Spaylz wrote:
I think you guys went a bit overboard in the other thread.

I think sc2holar is one of the few people who can actually distinctly differentiate Book!Stannis and Show!Stannis. I mean, as much as it pains me to say it, Show!Stannis is just down right awful. He really has no redeeming qualities, aside from being a badass fighter and a skilled commander. And even that transpired little in the show as of now.

I mean, come on guys, could you imagine Book!Stannis begging Melisandre for sex on a beach? Could you imagine him saying he burned that Florent guy because he was a heretic?

Face it, Show!Stannis is absolutely nothing like Book!Stannis. At this point, I doubt the characters will have anything in common anymore. Even if they do "redeem" him when he saves the Wall (and even that I am doubting... It will happen for sure, but I fear it will be belittled to no end), he will still be drastically different than he is in the books, and nowhere near as righteous or cool.

Sincerely,
A pained Book!Stannis fan


I have to agree with you with fellow countryman, I lost faith in Show!Stannis when he f***ed Melisandre, throwing the honor and virtue that defined the character in the books.

I believed the showrunners are aware that no one like Stannis hence Davos' speech in front of the bank of braavos that help remind the audience that Stannis is actually a good guy

For the next season Stannis will be on the wall, far from the game of thrones. I think it will help cast a fresh light on the character for the audience.
His handling of the wilding problem and the counsel he will provide Jon will set him on the better path for the audience closer to Book!Stannis.

I think.

He did sleep with her in the books too
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
esKq
Profile Joined April 2010
France134 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 13:02:21
June 10 2014 13:01 GMT
#10512
On June 10 2014 21:44 The_Red_Viper wrote:
He did sleep with her in the books too


Indeed but not like a teenager banging her over the table.

He did it for the shadow assassin it provides him not for lust.
IdrA : "I don't play Terran coz I have self respect"
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
June 10 2014 13:09 GMT
#10513
And he also feels great remorse over it. I think he talks about seeing what he did in a dream at some point?

Don't get me wrong, he did it nonetheless. Along with many wretched things. But he's also the one king who cares about the future of the realm, and who acknowledges the threat of the Others. There are many reasons why he might be a terrible king, mostly due to his taking of R'hllor and burning non-believers (more precisely, him allowing Melisandre to do so) as well as godswoods (that is something I still do not forgive him for).

But there are also many reasons why he would be a good king. Or at least, a halfway decent king. Many more reasons.

Stannis has had great character development. He begins as this bitter man who sees injustice being done to him at every turn, and hates on his brothers... And comes to regret his actions and feel remorse over it. Especially over killing Renly. At least, it's what I got from reading the books. That and the fact that he began by saying he didn't love Robert, but later on he says he does. The reason why Stannis is so interesting in the books is also because he is very paradoxal. He claims he is doing it all for duty, and because the law dictates that he should be king. Yet I refuse to believe he does not wish for it himself. He could have stepped down. Anyway, the debate about him being good or bad is endless. He is grey, and he is an extremely well written character, and that is why I love him!

That is, in the books at least. In the show... No thanks.
I like words.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3814 Posts
June 10 2014 13:11 GMT
#10514
Spaylz and sc2holar - you guys are both stupid shits for discussing book Stannis in the other thread, irregardless of your ability to distinguish you are still spoiling and stuff despite it not being that important.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
June 10 2014 13:14 GMT
#10515
On June 10 2014 22:11 Grovbolle wrote:
Spaylz and sc2holar - you guys are both stupid shits for discussing book Stannis in the other thread, irregardless of your ability to distinguish you are still spoiling and stuff despite it not being that important.


Okay, first of all, there is no need for name calling. Second, irregardless is not a word. And third, we did not spoil anything at all. I for one merely said the two characters are different, without even extrapolating on how or why Book!Stannis is different.

I agree that the discussion didn't belong in the other thread, however I hardly took part in it. And even so, name calling is still widely unnecessary.
I like words.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 13:25:49
June 10 2014 13:18 GMT
#10516
Spaylz, sc2holar, Vindicare605 you guys are continuously posting in that thread. Even if you are just borderline NOT giving away anything you are making moderation unnecessarily hard.

Just stop discussing shit in that thread.

For everyone of you banned who PMs me: I banned everyone involved in the recent Stannis discussion who also posts in this thread, even if you are not spoiling something with a singular post. You are ruining the thread regardless for the Unsullied, and you are making moderation harder.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
June 10 2014 13:20 GMT
#10517
On June 10 2014 21:18 sths wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 19:36 Spaylz wrote:
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/arpLrv5_700b_v1.jpg

Haha. Sheesh.



Oh man if this isn't a troll post it is so funny. I could feel the rage coming through. He will be so happy when Tywin dies though.


Yeah, I chuckled at the "so many lucky bounces going Tywin's way" part.

As for the great Stannis debate, I think I've always found him pretty unremarkable as a character. I don't feel he brings brings anything interesting to the story on his own, and without Melisandre carrying his whole arc there would be no reason for it to even exist.

I was pretty surprised when he showed up at the Wall. I mean strategically the explanation makes sense, but at the same time it seemed like a "there's no real place in the world for Stannis, so let's just randomly put him somewhere where he can kinda matter" move on GRRM's part.

I expect him to be killed off the moment Melisandre ditches him and takes her R'hllor-Jesus agenda elsehwere.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
June 10 2014 13:30 GMT
#10518
Wow they got a little too caught up in the Stannis discussion. Big fans I guess.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
June 10 2014 15:56 GMT
#10519
I really, really hope they do LSH this weekend, I am 99% sure they will but ... you never know.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
June 10 2014 16:07 GMT
#10520
On June 11 2014 00:56 Hot_Bid wrote:
I really, really hope they do LSH this weekend, I am 99% sure they will but ... you never know.

Agree.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
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