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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
On May 14 2014 04:29 Spaylz wrote: Man, I just rewatched the final scene. I absolutely love Oberyn's expression when Tyrion demands a trial by combat. I just can't fucking wait for the battle. I'm more scared they'll fuck this epic scene up like the last (two) fight scene(s)  . | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
What I am more doubtful about is the content of TWOW. GRRM has said the book will be larger than ADWD, which was already pretty voluminous, and it will supposedly have a lot of action. Two big battles, many important characters coming together or reaching a key point in their story, plus a lot more of the Others... Though S5 might not need to be "split up", I think S6 is more likely to be. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Koerage
Netherlands1220 Posts
reading that, that makes no sense at all tho... | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
It'll be people picking up the pieces. I also think the "great conflict" with the Others will stretch over two books. I would personally be disappointed if it didn't. We've waited 5 books for this to happen, so if it gets all solved in book 6 + beginning of 7... bleh. I feel like a good course would be to start in book 6, somewhat after the beginning, and end the book in a cliffhangery finish with a giant blow dealt to Westeros by the Others somehow. Perhaps the fall of the Wall, though I have a feeling the Others will breach/pass it before that. The point is, all that speculation could drive one mad! | ||
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Figgy
Canada1788 Posts
On May 13 2014 21:52 Redox wrote: The horrible thing he did there was murdering his father. If that is a problem for the realm or not is a problem that ranks much lower and nothing that you would even consider at that point. His own father betrayed him and denied him a fair trial, leading to a death sentence. I think that alone justifies it not even counting all the other stuff like Tysha etc. How was he denied a fair trial? Obviously Cersei was scheming against him the entire time but everything outside of what Shae said was pretty much fact. The problem was everything was stacked against him and he knew it. Everything he has said since the beginning of the series came back to bite him in the ass and Sansa being the one who actually poisoned Jeoffry then disappearing absolutely didn't help anything on his end. The trial would have been a foregone conclusion regardless of who the judges were, Tywin was just using it to his own advantage to continue on the family line. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14911 Posts
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
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KadaverBB
Germany25658 Posts
He should have started looking for a new wife asap!?! | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On May 14 2014 10:24 KadaverBB wrote: Dumb question, why did Tywin never remarry? I have no idea how old Tyrion is, but he is like 30ish right? Since Tywin's wife died during Tyrions birth, Tywin had like 30ish years to remarry and father more children. Shouldn't he have grown super concerned with legacy/family and all that good stuff once Jaime joined the kingsguard? He didn't have a suitable heir at that point since he considers Tyrion to be a disgrace/useless. He should have started looking for a new wife asap!?! He's only ever loved one person and that was his previous wife. After she died, he couldn't be stuffed to get another one. *And yes that makes him a hypocrite, but he always was one. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
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LilClinkin
Australia667 Posts
I read the books a couple of years ago and my memory is pretty hazy of what occurred...it makes it worse considering all of the changes the show makers have made to the Iron Islander's story. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
The fact that the one ship crew somehow managed to cross to the other side of westeros (a boat over land or sail like..totally around the whole continent) for a half assed rescue attempt is not explainable, it simply happened. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On May 14 2014 11:30 NB wrote: Im trying to re read the last book, trying to find out if there are enough materials to make the next season(6) of the TV show. The sandsnake is 1 arc, cersei is 1 arc, Asha and the kraken things is 1 arc, Arya is 1 arc, Sam and snow make 1 arc.... is that enough for 10 episodes? What else? Do you mean aFfC and for season 5? That appears to be what everything you mentioned is from iirc. If so, to add to your list: - Jamie's arc had a lot of good substance to fill the season (imo the best PoV of that book). There's his continued drift away from Cersei. His desperation in trying to reclaim his swordsmanship with Illyn Payne (might not be needed now that Bronn has kinda taken on that role this season...). The siege of Riverrun etc. - Brienne's arc could be stretched out...just like in the books >.> - There's a little of Sansa/Littlefinger to maybe do something with. They'll probably be combining more elements from aDwD as well which has more than enough to make a full season and share with the less eventful contributions of the 4th book. I could see 2 seasons out of the next two books with some added material of their own mixed in. Dunno if they'll do that though, I believe they've stated several times that they just want the next two books combined into 1 season. Which gives Martin less time ;; | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
There is more than enough material to make 2 seasons worth if they want to. Assuming you combine the books and stretch them out over 2 seasons, you have all the Greyjoys to introduce, Victarion, Euron, Damphair, the Dorne story line, Cersei's run in with the church, Arya in Braavos, Sam to Old Town, Jaime, Brienne and Pod, any invented scenes they make up, Tyrion in Essos, Dany, Jon, Bran, Quentyn Martell, Theon, Davos, Stannis, Aegon, Varys, Sansa, Littlefinger, Kevin Lannister, the Manderlys and Frey Pie, ect. | ||
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Irrelevant Label
United States596 Posts
On May 14 2014 11:09 LilClinkin wrote: Can some one explain the Yarra scene to me? It really made no sense...and I don't recall it ever happening. I read the books a couple of years ago and my memory is pretty hazy of what occurred...it makes it worse considering all of the changes the show makers have made to the Iron Islander's story. It simply didn't happen in the books. This sadly makes the books and show not that dissimilar in this regard. At this point nothing happens that is just like in the books. It can be similar, the broad strokes are the same, and a decent few lines are still at least closely paraphrased from the books. The specifics are all different now though. We can't even meaningfully fill in blanks on events like the purple wedding poison plot. The show version has too many different details. At this point we are along for the ride in an alternate version of asoiaf rather than watching a story we already know in a different medium. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
About next season, I think we won't see Briene much since I expect this season to end with Stoneheart as a cliffhanger. And yeah I forgot about Tyrion and Varys part. And little finger too. Can't wait. | ||
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