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On May 14 2014 01:12 chillpenguin wrote:
Jaime straight up tells Tyrion he can't fight anymore, why would you argue think he'd pick Jaime as champion? I think Tyrion is smart enough to realize that you don't just become a master swordsmen with your offhand in a few weeks.
Because Jaime's dad is gonna pick the guy Jaime has to fight to the death. That's a pretty good reason to pick Jaime. Also who the fuck else are you gonna pick? At this point Tyrion is pretty much alone in the world, Bronn is gone, Podrick is gone, Jaime is all he has left.
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On May 14 2014 01:19 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2014 01:12 chillpenguin wrote:
Jaime straight up tells Tyrion he can't fight anymore, why would you argue think he'd pick Jaime as champion? I think Tyrion is smart enough to realize that you don't just become a master swordsmen with your offhand in a few weeks. Because Jaime's dad is gonna pick the guy Jaime has to fight to the death. That's a pretty good reason to pick Jaime. Also who the fuck else are you gonna pick? At this point Tyrion is pretty much alone in the world, Bronn is gone, Podrick is gone, Jaime is all he has left.
And if not Jaime's dad, then Jaime's sister, lover and babydaddy. Either way, I agree that Jaime would've been an excellent choice if Tyrion got to choose first. I think even Cersei doesn't want Tyrion dead as badly as she wants Jaime alive (although she may not be quite rational enough to realize that).
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On May 13 2014 20:19 Bowzar wrote:
Im not sure how people will react to Tyrion strangling Shae. In the book she was clearly trying to humiliate Tyrion with all the bullshit and the fake tears but it felt like in the show that she was being threatened by Tywin.
Exactly why I am not sure what to make of Shae. To me it's like Tyrion and Shae like each other, but Tyrion pushed Shae away (to save her). Shae got hurt + probably threatened by Tywin or Cersei, so she testified against Tyrion. Now Tyrion will kill Shae because of some misunderstanding (+ Tywin/Cersei threat)? It doesn't sound right to me.
On May 13 2014 20:01 KadaverBB wrote:
I think it is actually naive to expect to be completely unspoiled when you're reading/discussing Game of Thrones on the internet.
I think we are doing a pretty good job, a lot of major things haven't been spoiled far.
1)Who wins the trial
2)Littlefinger getting rid of Lysa
3)Tyrion fucking killing Shae and Tywin
4)Battle at the wall, Ygritte!!!!! dying (Thats happening this season right?)
5)Zombiecat
So yeah, disappointed people in the other thread are proably in for a few surprises. They'll get over it.
I wonder when/how they will show zombiecat. It would be another wtf moment lol.
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Except he's not supposed to choose. I made this argument before, Lysa made the trial about tyrion killing jon arryn, attempting to murder bran became an after thought. Lysa became both the judge and the accuser, which is why catelyn didn't choose the champion. Tywin has no reason in this case to choose who the champion is
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On May 14 2014 01:37 KOFgokuon wrote:
Except he's not supposed to choose. I made this argument before, Lysa made the trial about tyrion killing jon arryn, attempting to murder bran became an after thought. Lysa became both the judge and the accuser, which is why catelyn didn't choose the champion. Tywin has no reason in this case to choose who the champion is
Tywin gets what Tywin wants.
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On May 14 2014 01:19 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2014 01:12 chillpenguin wrote:
Jaime straight up tells Tyrion he can't fight anymore, why would you argue think he'd pick Jaime as champion? I think Tyrion is smart enough to realize that you don't just become a master swordsmen with your offhand in a few weeks. Because Jaime's dad is gonna pick the guy Jaime has to fight to the death. That's a pretty good reason to pick Jaime. Also who the fuck else are you gonna pick? At this point Tyrion is pretty much alone in the world, Bronn is gone, Podrick is gone, Jaime is all he has left.
It isn't always to death, your argument is invalid
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On May 14 2014 01:45 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2014 01:19 KwarK wrote:On May 14 2014 01:12 chillpenguin wrote:
Jaime straight up tells Tyrion he can't fight anymore, why would you argue think he'd pick Jaime as champion? I think Tyrion is smart enough to realize that you don't just become a master swordsmen with your offhand in a few weeks. Because Jaime's dad is gonna pick the guy Jaime has to fight to the death. That's a pretty good reason to pick Jaime. Also who the fuck else are you gonna pick? At this point Tyrion is pretty much alone in the world, Bronn is gone, Podrick is gone, Jaime is all he has left. It isn't always to death, your argument is invalid
What trials by combat have we seen that aren't to death? Except for the trial of seven in Dunk and Egg in which the accuser was a combatant so could end his accusation.
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On May 14 2014 01:45 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2014 01:19 KwarK wrote:On May 14 2014 01:12 chillpenguin wrote:
Jaime straight up tells Tyrion he can't fight anymore, why would you argue think he'd pick Jaime as champion? I think Tyrion is smart enough to realize that you don't just become a master swordsmen with your offhand in a few weeks. Because Jaime's dad is gonna pick the guy Jaime has to fight to the death. That's a pretty good reason to pick Jaime. Also who the fuck else are you gonna pick? At this point Tyrion is pretty much alone in the world, Bronn is gone, Podrick is gone, Jaime is all he has left. It isn't always to death, your argument is invalid
We've seen two in the show, both to the death. And this is an argument about whether it makes sense for show characters to act the way they do. So no, yours is.
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Talking about what is spoiler and what isn't. Is it ok to discuss some of those theories the book readers have, like asking who they think Jon's mother is in the other topic?
I would love to read what is their conclusion (if someone gets the R+L=J), but I think it is against the rules to ask something like that.
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Nah man. That fiwi dude did that a while back and the posts got wiped out.
Jon's parentage is seriously just not a big deal in the TV show - especially at this point in the plot.
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On May 14 2014 02:40 Tur wrote:
Talking about what is spoiler and what isn't. Is it ok to discuss some of those theories the book readers have, like asking who they think Jon's mother is in the other topic?
I would love to read what is their conclusion (if someone gets the R+L=J), but I think it is against the rules to ask something like that.
Jon's parentage doesn't even seem like a big issue in the show. It's not brought up very often. I mean, he's constantly called a bastard, but he doesn't talk often about who his mother is and stuff.
Besides, there's been almost no talk of it. Ned mentioned Wylla way back in S1, and that's it. There is absolutely no evidence of R+L=J. I think it might be too soon to ask that question, and it would only bring up magical theories that are incredibly accurate with little source from the show.
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Man reading the other thread is so disappointing. If you post in the other thread and have read the books or researched any information outside of the show then you are a bastard and ruining the experience for anyone in that thread. Any type of extra information like "Tywin doesn't choose the person cersi does" still ruins it for the unsullied.
That said I really liked the last episode other than the ironborn plot.... wtf was that it was done terribly lol.
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Arent the royal family supposed to be represented by the kingsguard anyway? Considering this is the royal family have a trial about the kings death then it should be the kingsguard that defends them.
The fact that it isnt a kingsguard shows Tywin lannister can do whatever he damn well pleases so if jamie was chosen by tyrion then tywin would be able to pick someone who will lose to jamie or intervene in some other way.
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According to the show Jon as "one" possible mother : some woman. And his father is Ned Stark. There has been absolutely zero clue related to Jon's parents in the show, if a show watcher "guesses" it, it's 100% he either read the book or someone told him. Don't mention it, that's the holy grail of spoilers.
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or the holy grail of red herrings
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On May 14 2014 02:54 Talkin Bidness wrote:
Man reading the other thread is so disappointing. If you post in the other thread and have read the books or researched any information outside of the show then you are a bastard and ruining the experience for anyone in that thread. Any type of extra information like "Tywin doesn't choose the person cersi does" still ruins it for the unsullied.
That said I really liked the last episode other than the ironborn plot.... wtf was that it was done terribly lol.
Don't worry in two seasons we'll all be on even ground. (Though if there's book only thread then they'd be screwed.)
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On May 14 2014 03:07 KOFgokuon wrote:
or the holy grail of red herrings
Yea either, it R+L=J makes sense, but I'm not entirely sure yet. And we probably won't even know until the last book so.
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I don't know why, but I'm feeling optimistic for this year or the next for the 6th book. I feel like there is a lot of knowledge being revealed (the Night's King + Arya's new TWOW chapter), and it'd be pretty good. That way, S6 in two years still wouldn't be spoilers to us.
There is no escaping the spoilers from S7 though. No way GRRM can write ADOS in a year's time.
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I wouldn't trust GRRM to write a grocery list in a year, let alone a book.
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Man, I just rewatched the final scene.
I absolutely love Oberyn's expression when Tyrion demands a trial by combat. I just can't fucking wait for the battle. It'll tear my heart all over again when he dies, but it'll be super badass. I really hope they nailed the choreography.
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