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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
On March 28 2014 06:56 c0ldfusion wrote: + Show Spoiler + Hah. I sorta meant, it's probably Sansa as opposed to Tasha or Shae right? Edit: Can't be Tasha since it should have chronicled the events around his tenure as acting hand. + Show Spoiler + It MIGHT be Shae because of what Arya was wearing and how it had nothing to do with being in a very beautiful dress or wearing a wig like Sansa (Sansa would probably be well-known for her beauty/dresses/hair at the very least. Since she was wearing something that Shae might wear, I'm starting to think it was her. Moreover, in Tyrion's PUBLIC TRIAL, Shae said that she was a maiden that Tyrion raped or something like that -- and he made her call him her giant of lannister. .... yeah. So in the public eye, ppl might think Shae was just a victim of Tyrion (FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF) @ Conti, how do you know that we are not talking shit about you? CLICK TO FIND OUT >:^D guehehehehe. | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
All the titles of season 4's episodes. Supposedly, at least. Some of them are pretty obvious, like 2, 4, 7, 8 and 9. Others though.. | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
I fucking love it. | ||
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Irrelevant Label
United States596 Posts
On March 30 2014 12:51 Spaylz wrote: http://i.imgur.com/MPS4lQJ.png All the titles of season 4's episodes. Supposedly, at least. Some of them are pretty obvious, like 2, 4, 7, 8 and 9. Others though.. + Show Spoiler + Two Swords - Forging and presenting the reforged valyrian swords to Tywin/Tyrion The Lion and the Rose - Purple Wedding Breaker of Chains - Taking Meereen Oathkeeper - Jaime Spouts a yellow exclamation point over his head for Brienne First of his Name - Tommen's coronation The Laws of Gods and Men - Tyrion's trial Mockingbird - Sansa and LF in the Vale, probably the kiss in the snow and Lysa's death The Mountain and the Viper - Tyrion's other trial The Watchers on the Wall - Battle at the Wall The Children - Bran meets Leaf (et al. ?) + Show Spoiler + I read the preview chapter as Arya playing Shae because of the "Lady Stork" that is played by someone else. Also, Tyrion's failure to consummate with Sansa is one of the things that was well known and he was mocked for. Bah, and now it'll be too bad if the show handles the swapping of roles in such a manner that Arya kills Polliver at the inn. They will be throwing away the ability to fit this in later. It is a good one. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On March 31 2014 04:39 Irrelevant Label wrote: + Show Spoiler + Two Swords - Forging and presenting the reforged valyrian swords to Tywin/Tyrion The Lion and the Rose - Purple Wedding Breaker of Chains - Taking Meereen Oathkeeper - Jaime Spouts a yellow exclamation point over his head for Brienne First of his Name - Tommen's coronation The Laws of Gods and Men - Tyrion's trial Mockingbird - Sansa and LF in the Vale, probably the kiss in the snow and Lysa's death The Mountain and the Viper - Tyrion's other trial The Watchers on the Wall - Battle at the Wall The Children - Bran meets Leaf (et al. ?) + Show Spoiler + I read the preview chapter as Arya playing Shae because of the "Lady Stork" that is played by someone else. Also, Tyrion's failure to consummate with Sansa is one of the things that was well known and he was mocked for. Bah, and now it'll be too bad if the show handles the swapping of roles in such a manner that Arya kills Polliver at the inn. They will be throwing away the ability to fit this in later. It is a good one. + Show Spoiler + This makes sense. The play is about Tyrion's life as "The Bloody Hand", at least as the public knows it, and Lady Stork is Sansa, as she is referenced as the queen. Does Arya look very different? It's been a while since I've read the last book, and I feel like I glossed over any physical transformation. | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
I'd also guess that Arya is quite attractive when she isn't dirty/tomboy/covered in blood, as many think she looks just like Lyanna. | ||
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
On March 31 2014 14:52 sung_moon wrote: I'd imagine Arya's probably like 10-11, but she's under guise so who knows. Forget how much time has passed since the very beginning of Book 1. I'd also guess that Arya is quite attractive when she isn't dirty/tomboy/covered in blood, as many think she looks just like Lyanna. + Show Spoiler + Um, I believe she had Mercy's face, and it most likely was a pretty one. But yeah, actual-arya is like 10 or 11 maybe. + it being her first kiss is kinda twisted. But she is not one for romance so who knows how she feels (if she feels anything at all) about it (maybe she liked it cuz it played into her plan or something) The chapter got me too hype to care for the show now argh. | ||
zatic
Zurich15365 Posts
Why does Theon have the ravens killed, and tries to keep the killing of the boys a "secret"? It seems to me this makes everything less understandable for the viewer, and I don't get what this change is supposed to accomplish. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On April 01 2014 17:15 zatic wrote: Does anyone have an explanation why they changed the Theon / Winterfell storyline in the show? I mean I understand many changes they did previously, but that one just doesn't make sense to me. Why does Theon have the ravens killed, and tries to keep the killing of the boys a "secret"? It seems to me this makes everything less understandable for the viewer, and I don't get what this change is supposed to accomplish. That's one of the things I never figured out myself, either. That completely changed Catelyn's motivation for freeing Jaime as well, from something major (almost all her children are dead, let's at least save those that are still alive) to something minor (I don't even remember, honestly), and for no apparent reason. | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
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Gladness
United States59 Posts
On April 01 2014 17:15 zatic wrote: Does anyone have an explanation why they changed the Theon / Winterfell storyline in the show? I mean I understand many changes they did previously, but that one just doesn't make sense to me. Why does Theon have the ravens killed, and tries to keep the killing of the boys a "secret"? It seems to me this makes everything less understandable for the viewer, and I don't get what this change is supposed to accomplish. If they change something substantive in the show, there is usually one of two reasons: characters' internal struggles are harder to do on screen than in text, and battles are expensive. They're trying to show that Theon is in over his head. He had a really good plan to take Winterfell, but neither plan nor intuition to hold it. The scenes in the book have a lot of Theon's political struggle with the residents of Winterfell and his internal struggles with his own identity and motivation. Neither translate well to TV, so they had to rewrite the whole thing. The rest of the Winterfell action was developing Ramsay as a character, which the TV show wasn't prepared to start at the end of season 2. They needed Ramsay as an excuse to give Theon's actor screen time in season 3. They cleverly used him to establish the long timeline of Roose Bolton's betrayal, giving us free character development of an important villain along the way. That arc doesn't work if we know who Ramsay is, so they even had to rewrite the watchable parts of the Winterfell scenes. Also they were surely trying to not pay for that big tripartite battle outside the gates of Winterfell. | ||
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Soan
New Zealand194 Posts
On April 01 2014 22:36 c0ldfusion wrote: Maybe I remember the show differently but I thought it matched the books on both counts. Yeah same here. I've been rewatching the show, and Catelyn definitely released Jaime in the hopes of getting her daughters back. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On April 02 2014 04:39 Soan wrote: Yeah same here. I've been rewatching the show, and Catelyn definitely released Jaime in the hopes of getting her daughters back. She does, but there was no good reason given why she released him at that moment, and not a few days before or after (other than a flimsy "Rob's people might lynch him"). In the show, she just spontaneously decides that releasing Jaime is a good idea, despite knowing that she goes directly against Rob's orders. In the books, she receives the letter that says that Bran and Rickon have been killed and Winterfell has been taken over by Theon, and that is what completely crushes her and makes her so desperate that she frees Jaime. In my opinion, that's a far more powerful and understandable motivator than what happened in the show, where Catelyn just seemed randomly irrational about it all. | ||
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zatic
Zurich15365 Posts
Still, Gladness, I really don't see how not killing the ravens and letting everyone know he killed the Stark boys would hinder the development of either Theon or Ramsay. Ramsay doesn't even show up until after. I totally get that they didn't show the battle at Winterfell - I mean the whole arc where Reek goes to buy mercenaries and it's Roderick besieging Winterfell would be way too complicated for the show. I just don't understand the killing ravens part. | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
What happens to Daenerys later? It seems that she is gaining tones of power and allies, does she lose any of her support? Regarding Joffrey Lannister, does he lose his power? Or rather does his character slowly become better-liked as the books goes? Thanks in advance. | ||
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MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
On April 05 2014 13:25 Xiphos wrote: Hey having not watch much of GoT the tv show (but I have started on the books). I just want to ask you guys a couple of questions (I don't spoilers at all which is why I came here in the first place). What happens to Daenerys later? It seems that she is gaining tones of power and allies, does she lose any of her support? Regarding Joffrey Lannister, does he lose his power? Or rather does his character slowly become better-liked as the books goes? Thanks in advance. Daenerys keeps most of the support she currently has but gets into conflict with a lot of the slaving powers near her. Joff loses his power. | ||
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GrapeApe
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Novs
United States14 Posts
On April 07 2014 11:41 GrapeApe wrote: For those who saw the episode tonight I was just curious about something in regards to the books: Wasn't the Hound suppose to be injured in that fight and then Arya leaves him to "die"? I haven't read the books, so I wasn't sure if it was that fight or a later, similar fight. As far as I remember the scene came much later in the book, and the hound was left for dead. With Arya shanking the tickler multiple times rather than giving Poliver a relatively quick death. Seems they have more plans for Arya before they send her over for her training. | ||
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