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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
April 07 2014 03:21 GMT
#8581
I imagine they're going to milk the Hound/Arya arc for all its worth. And I'm totally fine with that.
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GrapeApe
Profile Joined March 2011
1053 Posts
April 07 2014 03:25 GMT
#8582
On April 07 2014 12:21 scudst0rm wrote:
I imagine they're going to milk the Hound/Arya arc for all its worth. And I'm totally fine with that.


Agreed. The lines they have been giving the Hound are brilliant lol
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LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
April 07 2014 05:09 GMT
#8583
That one kill with the dagger.

"Stop stabbing yourself! Stop stabbing yourself"
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
April 07 2014 05:19 GMT
#8584
Agreed on changes to the Arya/Hound story. Arya has been their consistent success in the area of deviating from the books while keeping it about as good as the books.

...and to top it off, (non-specific book 6 related mention in spoiler) + Show Spoiler +
they fit in the Raff (Polliver in the show) bit from the upcoming winds of winter that I was concerned that they wouldn't be able to do with the role switching.
Awesome.

The end seemed a bit over the top as a "welcome back to our horrible world", where a young girl graduating to greater levels of homicidal mania and roaming a war ravaged countryside alongside one of it's great monsters is a moment of triumph. Next thing you know, people will be cheering when a boy chokes to death at his own wedding.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
April 07 2014 05:22 GMT
#8585
On April 07 2014 11:41 GrapeApe wrote:
For those who saw the episode tonight I was just curious about something in regards to the books: Wasn't the Hound suppose to be injured in that fight and then Arya leaves him to "die"? I haven't read the books, so I wasn't sure if it was that fight or a later, similar fight.


Yea I thought i was tripping on that, I thought for sure that scene was supposed to get him killed.

But now that I think about it, they haven't done anything with Beric Dondarrion and his brotherhood without banners yet. So they have to leave him alive for at least that long.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 05:27:11
April 07 2014 05:24 GMT
#8586
Sick premiere. Should easily be the best season given how much epicness is densely packed into the latter half of aSoS.

Looks like we're getting our consolation to the Red Wedding early next week, muhahaha

I'm still uneasy about the deviation Shae's taking though. It still looks like she's ultimately going to end up in the same spot come the end of the season, but as less of a totally manipulative bitch that she was in the book.
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
April 07 2014 05:29 GMT
#8587
On April 07 2014 14:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Sick premiere. Should easily be the best season given how much epicness is densely packed into the latter half of aSoS.

Looks like we're getting our consolation to the Red Wedding early next week, muhahaha

I'm still uneasy about the deviation Shae's taking though. It still looks like she's ultimately going to end up in the same spot come the end of the season, but as less of a totally manipulative bitch that she was in the book.


They're just trying to give her motivation in the show to make her fate seem more tragic.

We don't ever get Shae's internal monologue in the book, so we don't actually know any of her motivations for betraying Tyrion. The show has plenty of creative freedom in this regard.

What we do know is that she was stuck in a bad place between upsetting the queen and hand of the king by not testifying how she wanted or betraying Tyrion. She took what she thought was the safe bet not expecting in a million years she'd die for it.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
sths
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Australia192 Posts
April 07 2014 05:37 GMT
#8588
The way they're building up Oberon, it's going to be so hilarious when he gets killed by the mountain.
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
April 07 2014 05:45 GMT
#8589
On April 07 2014 12:21 scudst0rm wrote:
I imagine they're going to milk the Hound/Arya arc for all its worth. And I'm totally fine with that.


yeah, seeing as that was the only good scene in the episode lol. the rest felt like a list of recaps and lame one-liners

about what i expected:
good cgi
good costumes

mediocre acting
mediocre script (it feels likes its been devolving consistently these past couple seasons)

poor use of musical cues
overdone one-dimensional extras
shitty dany
=)=
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
April 07 2014 05:48 GMT
#8590
have elio and linda made complaint-videos yet?
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
April 07 2014 05:52 GMT
#8591
On April 07 2014 14:37 sths wrote:
The way they're building up Oberon, it's going to be so hilarious when he gets killed by the mountain.


He goes out like a badass though.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
April 07 2014 07:34 GMT
#8592
On April 07 2014 14:52 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 14:37 sths wrote:
The way they're building up Oberon, it's going to be so hilarious when he gets killed by the mountain.


He goes out like a badass though.

Like THIS! *crunch*
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
April 07 2014 08:26 GMT
#8593
many cheers will be had next week :D
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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 07 2014 09:01 GMT
#8594
On April 07 2014 14:19 Irrelevant Label wrote:
Agreed on changes to the Arya/Hound story. Arya has been their consistent success in the area of deviating from the books while keeping it about as good as the books.

...and to top it off, (non-specific book 6 related mention in spoiler) + Show Spoiler +
they fit in the Raff (Polliver in the show) bit from the upcoming winds of winter that I was concerned that they wouldn't be able to do with the role switching.
Awesome.

The end seemed a bit over the top as a "welcome back to our horrible world", where a young girl graduating to greater levels of homicidal mania and roaming a war ravaged countryside alongside one of it's great monsters is a moment of triumph. Next thing you know, people will be cheering when a boy chokes to death at his own wedding.

Leaving out names makes us all seem like monsters :D
sths
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Australia192 Posts
April 07 2014 09:34 GMT
#8595
anyone else love the line from maester aemon at castle black? bet the NSA would love to have their agents grow up in kingslanding.

"how did you get lie detection powers"

"I grew up in kingslanding"

Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
April 07 2014 09:58 GMT
#8596
I liked everything this episode apart from the new Daario scenes and the Thenns. His material was really poorly written. I understand what D&D did, giving him some comic relief material (RIP Strong Belwas), but it just doesn't work with Daario that way. Daario's supposed to ooze danger, confidence and charisma.

The Thenns were portrayed a bit too brutal imo. They were supposed to be more organised than the average wildling.

I loved the Cersei+Jaime scene. Arya + Sandor was great too, and the actor for Oberyn was good but needs more screentime before I fully endorse him.



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Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
April 07 2014 11:12 GMT
#8597
I think it's fine that they present the Thenns like this actually, it works in the books to just kind of mention that the Thenns are kind of a separate culture from the other wildlings but that kind of worldbuilding doesn't really work in a TV show. I'm also fine with the (highlighting of? I don't remember if they were cannibals in the books) cannibalism since we already knew even in the show that there are cannibals beyond the wall. Might as well work it in, makes the Thenns more distinct anyway.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
April 07 2014 11:31 GMT
#8598
It will be interesting to see how people will react to Dany in Mereen, that is ofcourse if they dont change anything to make her look better.
SwARmZzz
Profile Joined June 2013
Canada193 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 12:00:21
April 07 2014 11:59 GMT
#8599
Kinda get the feeling that Ygritte's death in the show is going to be some kind of all focus dramatic death... As opposed to the "strolling across all the pile of dead bodies, Oh there's Ygritte..." She appears to have a big role in the show....
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 07 2014 12:32 GMT
#8600
On March 31 2014 07:03 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2014 04:39 Irrelevant Label wrote:
On March 30 2014 12:51 Spaylz wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/MPS4lQJ.png

All the titles of season 4's episodes. Supposedly, at least.

Some of them are pretty obvious, like 2, 4, 7, 8 and 9. Others though..



+ Show Spoiler +

Two Swords - Forging and presenting the reforged valyrian swords to Tywin/Tyrion
The Lion and the Rose - Purple Wedding
Breaker of Chains - Taking Meereen
Oathkeeper - Jaime Spouts a yellow exclamation point over his head for Brienne
First of his Name - Tommen's coronation
The Laws of Gods and Men - Tyrion's trial
Mockingbird - Sansa and LF in the Vale, probably the kiss in the snow and Lysa's death
The Mountain and the Viper - Tyrion's other trial
The Watchers on the Wall - Battle at the Wall
The Children - Bran meets Leaf (et al. ?)


+ Show Spoiler +
I read the preview chapter as Arya playing Shae because of the "Lady Stork" that is played by someone else. Also, Tyrion's failure to consummate with Sansa is one of the things that was well known and he was mocked for.

Bah, and now it'll be too bad if the show handles the swapping of roles in such a manner that Arya kills Polliver at the inn. They will be throwing away the ability to fit this in later. It is a good one.


+ Show Spoiler +

This makes sense. The play is about Tyrion's life as "The Bloody Hand", at least as the public knows it, and Lady Stork is Sansa, as she is referenced as the queen.

Does Arya look very different? It's been a while since I've read the last book, and I feel like I glossed over any physical transformation.


+ Show Spoiler +

Well, I guess we already got this scene in the show last night.
How unfortunate that we won't be getting the book version... much better setup IMO.
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