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On June 20 2013 10:56 Sqisgar wrote: No way does Dany die in the waste by Khal Jhaqo, not with her dragon around. Yeah the dragon will save her and from then on she commands him. Rides on his back to Mereen. A little cheesy, but would make sense for further progression.
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On June 20 2013 11:12 Doraemon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 19:05 Talin wrote: Pretty sure Tyrion dies at some point. He doesn't have anywhere reasonable to end up or anything meaningful to accomplish. I don't see him as a Lord of Casterly Rock, let alone sitting on the throne. It's not realistic that he would be accepted as a ruler anywhere no matter what he does. Having that happen would make it a really cheap/corny "nerd wins" character arc.
didn't jaime's aunty say that tyrion is the only "true" son of tywin?? or did i misread that part
Ya I get the feeling Tyrion will somehow get his crimes absolved and become the future Lord of the Rock.
I'm actually almost willing to be it'll end up as Jaime who kills his sister too (or was the prophecy specifically "little brother" and not just "brother"?)
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Well, Cersei was born before Jaime
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On June 20 2013 11:29 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2013 10:56 Sqisgar wrote: No way does Dany die in the waste by Khal Jhaqo, not with her dragon around. Yeah the dragon will save her and from then on she commands him. Rides on his back to Mereen. A little cheesy, but would make sense for further progression. Save her? I hardly think she would need saving. Her Khal bowed to her when she emerged from the flames with teensy weensy dragons draped around her tits. I'd imagine this Khal would definitely bow at the sight of a dragon large enough to ride. If not automatically, they definitely will once Drogon burns/devours Jhaqo at the command of Dany. She will then ride(fly) down upon the armies camped outside of Mereen with 20 Thousand Dothraki in her wake of flame.
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A sudden and minimally explained shift towards a well behaved Drogon would be cheesy, threatening a bit of deus ex machina even, but I do not see it as a given fact in that scenario.
Why does protecting her from Jhaqo necessitate any relationship to her ability to command it? Drogon's own inclinations provide reason for protecting Dany. Even if it was almost entirely feral, a behavior of "kill everything that seems like a threat while not harming her" would amount to protecting her to a certain degree.
It is not (very/mostly) feral though. She has already shown a tenuous to moderate ability to command Drogon. That is enough to explain using it for transportation, as she already has since when she got it to land for her again.
It seems to be about like a dog who knows the commands but isn't disciplined into following them much. That allows for a wide range of possible behaviors from Drogon while maintaining internal consistency in the story.
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On June 20 2013 12:05 Irrelevant Label wrote: A sudden and minimally explained shift towards a well behaved Drogon would be cheesy, threatening a bit of deus ex machina even, but I do not see it as a given fact in that scenario.
Why does protecting her from Jhaqo necessitate any relationship to her ability to command it? Drogon's own inclinations provide reason for protecting Dany. Even if it was almost entirely feral, a behavior of "kill everything that seems like a threat while not harming her" would amount to protecting her to a certain degree.
It is not (very/mostly) feral though. She has already shown a tenuous to moderate ability to command Drogon. That is enough to explain using it for transportation, as she already has since when she got it to land for her again.
It seems to be about like a dog who knows the commands but isn't disciplined into following them much. That allows for a wide range of possible behaviors from Drogon while maintaining internal consistency in the story. It will likely be explained as Drogon feeling her extreme hatred for Jhaqo and wanting him to feel pain. As an extension of her, he lashes out, burning his face in his black flames and in turn causing his Khal to submit to her. Enter in some Quaithe flashback comments about The Dragons know who you are, do you? To which Dany replies with "Yes, I am Danerys Stormborn blah blah blah blah Khaleesi Blah blah blah. My purpose is to bring blood and fire upon my enemies." *Hops on Drogons back* "Drogon, to Mereen. We have a war to win."
Up she flies with the Khal at her heels. End chapter.
Seems cheesy, but it'll happen. I'll bet you 100 e-sports dollars.
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On June 20 2013 13:09 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2013 12:05 Irrelevant Label wrote: A sudden and minimally explained shift towards a well behaved Drogon would be cheesy, threatening a bit of deus ex machina even, but I do not see it as a given fact in that scenario.
Why does protecting her from Jhaqo necessitate any relationship to her ability to command it? Drogon's own inclinations provide reason for protecting Dany. Even if it was almost entirely feral, a behavior of "kill everything that seems like a threat while not harming her" would amount to protecting her to a certain degree.
It is not (very/mostly) feral though. She has already shown a tenuous to moderate ability to command Drogon. That is enough to explain using it for transportation, as she already has since when she got it to land for her again.
It seems to be about like a dog who knows the commands but isn't disciplined into following them much. That allows for a wide range of possible behaviors from Drogon while maintaining internal consistency in the story. It will likely be explained as Drogon feeling her extreme hatred for Jhaqo and wanting him to feel pain. As an extension of her, he lashes out, burning his face in his black flames and in turn causing his Khal to submit to her. Enter in some Quaithe flashback comments about The Dragons know who you are, do you? To which Dany replies with "Yes, I am Danerys Stormborn blah blah blah blah Khaleesi Blah blah blah. My purpose is to bring blood and fire upon my enemies." *Hops on Drogons back* "Drogon, to Mereen. We have a war to win." Up she flies with the Khal at her heels. End chapter. Seems cheesy, but it'll happen. I'll bet you 100 e-sports dollars.
i'm thinking what happens when victarian rocks up with the dragonhorn, blows it and all 3 dragons are under his control. i'd hate to see that happen =[
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On June 20 2013 13:59 Doraemon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2013 13:09 Dosey wrote:On June 20 2013 12:05 Irrelevant Label wrote: A sudden and minimally explained shift towards a well behaved Drogon would be cheesy, threatening a bit of deus ex machina even, but I do not see it as a given fact in that scenario.
Why does protecting her from Jhaqo necessitate any relationship to her ability to command it? Drogon's own inclinations provide reason for protecting Dany. Even if it was almost entirely feral, a behavior of "kill everything that seems like a threat while not harming her" would amount to protecting her to a certain degree.
It is not (very/mostly) feral though. She has already shown a tenuous to moderate ability to command Drogon. That is enough to explain using it for transportation, as she already has since when she got it to land for her again.
It seems to be about like a dog who knows the commands but isn't disciplined into following them much. That allows for a wide range of possible behaviors from Drogon while maintaining internal consistency in the story. It will likely be explained as Drogon feeling her extreme hatred for Jhaqo and wanting him to feel pain. As an extension of her, he lashes out, burning his face in his black flames and in turn causing his Khal to submit to her. Enter in some Quaithe flashback comments about The Dragons know who you are, do you? To which Dany replies with "Yes, I am Danerys Stormborn blah blah blah blah Khaleesi Blah blah blah. My purpose is to bring blood and fire upon my enemies." *Hops on Drogons back* "Drogon, to Mereen. We have a war to win." Up she flies with the Khal at her heels. End chapter. Seems cheesy, but it'll happen. I'll bet you 100 e-sports dollars. i'm thinking what happens when victarian rocks up with the dragonhorn, blows it and all 3 dragons are under his control. i'd hate to see that happen =[
I do not think that is a possibility. Why would Moqorro conspire to give the command of the dragons to Victarion? Unless his control of Victarion escalated beyond manipulation I do not see it. What does the horn really do/does it work and what is Moqorro aiming for are all pretty big questions though.
I'm inclined to believe the translation he provided Victarion of the glyphs on the horn. Beyond that, *many sided die roll*.
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On June 20 2013 10:32 NPF wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2013 10:07 Adron wrote:On June 14 2013 03:14 moopie wrote:On June 13 2013 23:56 Erasme wrote: Maybe Jon marries Dany.. Worst ending ever. Actually one of my top most likely endings... I IS called....fire and ice after all The thing is Jon is Fire and Ice, Fire = Targaryan, Ice =Stark. This is the Jon Snow show boys and girls.
Okay then, one more just to keep it going, combining theories. 3 dragons, 3 riders. Aegon had 2 sisters, and married em both. Dany has 2 brothers (possibly), Jon and (F)aegon.
Well, there ye go! Oh and, its in my list of most likely endings, so it isnt my prophecy or something. Nor do i htink im the first one to think of it. Edit; Im stupid, they're her nephews, not brothers. doh.
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Aren't Jon and Faegon Dany's nephews, not her brothers?
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On June 20 2013 12:05 Irrelevant Label wrote: A sudden and minimally explained shift towards a well behaved Drogon would be cheesy, threatening a bit of deus ex machina even, but I do not see it as a given fact in that scenario.
Why does protecting her from Jhaqo necessitate any relationship to her ability to command it? Drogon's own inclinations provide reason for protecting Dany. Even if it was almost entirely feral, a behavior of "kill everything that seems like a threat while not harming her" would amount to protecting her to a certain degree.
It is not (very/mostly) feral though. She has already shown a tenuous to moderate ability to command Drogon. That is enough to explain using it for transportation, as she already has since when she got it to land for her again.
It seems to be about like a dog who knows the commands but isn't disciplined into following them much. That allows for a wide range of possible behaviors from Drogon while maintaining internal consistency in the story.
Yeah something like with Ash's Charizard :D
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On June 20 2013 21:13 Restrider wrote: Aren't Jon and Faegon Dany's nephews, not her brothers?
Yes
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On June 20 2013 11:12 Doraemon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 19:05 Talin wrote: Pretty sure Tyrion dies at some point. He doesn't have anywhere reasonable to end up or anything meaningful to accomplish. I don't see him as a Lord of Casterly Rock, let alone sitting on the throne. It's not realistic that he would be accepted as a ruler anywhere no matter what he does. Having that happen would make it a really cheap/corny "nerd wins" character arc.
didn't jaime's aunty say that tyrion is the only "true" son of tywin?? or did i misread that part she meant that Tyrion was the only one with his intelligence and cunning, well i understood that.
On June 20 2013 21:29 Ketch wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2013 12:05 Irrelevant Label wrote: A sudden and minimally explained shift towards a well behaved Drogon would be cheesy, threatening a bit of deus ex machina even, but I do not see it as a given fact in that scenario.
Why does protecting her from Jhaqo necessitate any relationship to her ability to command it? Drogon's own inclinations provide reason for protecting Dany. Even if it was almost entirely feral, a behavior of "kill everything that seems like a threat while not harming her" would amount to protecting her to a certain degree.
It is not (very/mostly) feral though. She has already shown a tenuous to moderate ability to command Drogon. That is enough to explain using it for transportation, as she already has since when she got it to land for her again.
It seems to be about like a dog who knows the commands but isn't disciplined into following them much. That allows for a wide range of possible behaviors from Drogon while maintaining internal consistency in the story. Yeah something like with Ash's Charizard :D
exactly! hhahaha you read my mind xD
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so, are there any theories of Bran and Daenerys ending up together?
Bran had a dream where the three eyed crow told him it can teach him to fly. Then he names his dog Summer. Three eyes = three dragons Crippled Bran flying on the dragons? Summer related to dragons, fire and Dany.
She's like 8 years older than him, but I'm not sure how old they are now. Btw, where was Bran when the Red Comet appeared?
Are the Children of the Forest and the Others related, as in similar people?
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On June 21 2013 00:41 quirinus wrote: so, are there any theories of Bran and Daenerys ending up together?
Bran had a dream where the three eyed crow told him it can teach him to fly. Then he names his dog Summer. Three eyes = three dragons Crippled Bran flying on the dragons? Summer related to dragons, fire and Dany.
She's like 8 years older than him, but I'm not sure how old they are now. Btw, where was Bran when the Red Comet appeared?
Are the Children of the Forest and the Others related, as in similar people?
I think Bran was simply in Winterfell when the comet appeared, cant recall if there was anything major with him during that time. Also, I think that the Children of the forest just know magic and stuff to hold off the Others, or just didnt know those existed. I dont know tho
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On June 21 2013 00:41 quirinus wrote: so, are there any theories of Bran and Daenerys ending up together?
Bran had a dream where the three eyed crow told him it can teach him to fly. Then he names his dog Summer. Three eyes = three dragons Crippled Bran flying on the dragons? Summer related to dragons, fire and Dany.
She's like 8 years older than him, but I'm not sure how old they are now. Btw, where was Bran when the Red Comet appeared?
Are the Children of the Forest and the Others related, as in similar people? I don't think this will ever happen considering in what state bran's teacher is now. I figured Bran would end similarly.
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On June 21 2013 03:04 Hryul wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 00:41 quirinus wrote: so, are there any theories of Bran and Daenerys ending up together?
Bran had a dream where the three eyed crow told him it can teach him to fly. Then he names his dog Summer. Three eyes = three dragons Crippled Bran flying on the dragons? Summer related to dragons, fire and Dany.
She's like 8 years older than him, but I'm not sure how old they are now. Btw, where was Bran when the Red Comet appeared?
Are the Children of the Forest and the Others related, as in similar people? I don't think this will ever happen considering in what state bran's teacher is now. I figured Bran would end similarly. Pretty much this. He is the broken boy and will most likely only be relevant in a spiritual, not a physical way.
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ok thanks guys, I didn't actually read the 5th book, but I don't care for spoilers.  kinda boycotted it until the 6th is out.
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On June 17 2013 13:00 bittman wrote: Surprised people see anyone as safe. Jon and Dany included.
I mean, maybe safe for now. I imagine they're at least safe until book 7. Nothing in any prophecy says they live happily ever after.
My safe list guess for the entire series (for bigg-ish names) reads: Arya, Sansa, Bran, Rickon, Podrick, Theon, Gendry, Sam, Tommen.
Littlefinger, Melisandre, Varys, Cersei, Jaimie, Jorah, Aegon, Roose, Ramsey, Euron, Victarion, Walder Frey, Mance, Stannis all dead or highly likely imo.
Jon, Dany, Reeds, Davos, Asha idk.
I'm sure everyone's list is different.
Well, there has been an absurd amount of foreshadowing towards Tommen's death I will be absolutely shocked if he doesn't kick the bucket soon. He is on my 100% sure he is going to die list.
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On June 20 2013 10:24 Panda86 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2013 10:07 Adron wrote:On June 14 2013 03:14 moopie wrote:On June 13 2013 23:56 Erasme wrote: Maybe Jon marries Dany.. Worst ending ever. Actually one of my top most likely endings... I IS called....fire and ice after all I can't see it ending like that. In my opinion the ending occurs something like this. Dany dies in the waste at the hands of Khal Jhaqo. Jon Snow is revived by Melisandre. Aegon with his army at Storm's End turns out to be an imposter. Jon Snow is actually Aegon. However he refuses to abandon his brothers on the wall and remains Lord Commander and executes all involved in betraying him. WIth new found power he travels north to the lands of always winter and defeats the white walkers. Stannis defeats Ramsay and Roose in the battle in the North. Davos returns with Rickon and Stannis declares him Lord of Winterfell. With the aid of the North he conquers the south now that they are in disarray and unguarded. Cersei and Tommen are executed. Sansa kills Littlefinger. Thats all that I have I don't really know what will occur with Aegon the Imposter and his army or what Prince Martell will do. I also have no idea what will become of Vicatarion or Tyrion whatsoever.
Arya shows up as a faceless man and kills Jon Snow and Stannis after being hired by Dany before her death. Varys appears out of nowhere to claim the Iron Throne. All according to plan.
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