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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
June 17 2013 15:23 GMT
#7941
On June 18 2013 00:18 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 00:04 adiga wrote:
Walder Frey is sooooooooooooo going to die, I think it will be the most vicious death on the series.

I certainly hope so. I wonder who will get to kill that souless SOB.



Jaime Lannister on an eternal path of redemption or Arya Stark on an eternal path of vengence?
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
adiga
Profile Joined July 2011
495 Posts
June 17 2013 15:27 GMT
#7942
On June 18 2013 00:18 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 00:04 adiga wrote:
Walder Frey is sooooooooooooo going to die, I think it will be the most vicious death on the series.

I certainly hope so. I wonder who will get to kill that souless SOB.


I even believe that the whole(well maybe not everyone literally) Frey family will be wiped out, that guests killing thing will not go unpunished. The story Bran tells on the show(about the cook who trued into a rat in Nightfort I believe it was) supports this.
A possible way will be the burning of them by dragon fire.
The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.
Flik
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada256 Posts
June 17 2013 16:44 GMT
#7943
Well since Orell went into his eagle and attacked Jon Snow on the show that makes me 99.9% sure he's going into Ghost in TWoW. Since I don't think they'll have Varamyr in the show this will be the only foreshadowing the show watchers will get. Even though show watchers have the slightest clue that any of the other Starks are wargs.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 17 2013 16:59 GMT
#7944
I have a bad feeling that littlefinger is going to die. He is smart, but he is playing risky and I don't see him living to the end of the series. I don't think he knows when to stop, or ever really wants to stop. He's my favourite character so I dread what the next books will bring.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18292 Posts
June 17 2013 17:00 GMT
#7945
On June 18 2013 00:23 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 00:18 Telcontar wrote:
On June 18 2013 00:04 adiga wrote:
Walder Frey is sooooooooooooo going to die, I think it will be the most vicious death on the series.

I certainly hope so. I wonder who will get to kill that souless SOB.



Jaime Lannister on an eternal path of redemption or Arya Stark on an eternal path of vengence?

Or UnCat. I prefer Jaime or Arya, though.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18292 Posts
June 17 2013 17:04 GMT
#7946
On June 18 2013 01:59 Scip wrote:
I have a bad feeling that littlefinger is going to die. He is smart, but he is playing risky and I don't see him living to the end of the series. I don't think he knows when to stop, or ever really wants to stop. He's my favourite character so I dread what the next books will bring.

I don't feel Littlefinger plays risky at all. He is a sneaky sneak who takes calculated risks cloaked in subterfuge. There is always someone else to blame and I don't think even Varys knows everything that Littlefinger has been up to. It really depends on what Littlefinger does once he has control of the Vale. I somehow think he will side with Aegon... until another opportunity for doublecrossing comes up
timurStas
Profile Joined June 2012
68 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 17:14:01
June 17 2013 17:12 GMT
#7947
Not a bad season - but one scene basically ruined the show for me (note: I did not read the books)

Scene (Stannis' warroom)

Stannis "Davos man what the fuck! You let Gendry go. You must get the chops"

Davos "I let him go because fuck your voodoo, also you cant give me the chops because I got this Night watch letter man"

Red Woman "Oh shit man, the night watch letter, means season 1-3 is pointless since the wars of men is nothing compared to the war vs frost zombies (they are crazier then normal zombies because they dont rot) so forget all the beef and drama of the war of the kings.

Stannis "Shiiiiieeettt. Ok fuck all this war mess - fresh story line incoming next seaon lOLOLOLOL"

Thats just lazy story telling imo.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 17 2013 17:43 GMT
#7948
On June 18 2013 02:04 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 01:59 Scip wrote:
I have a bad feeling that littlefinger is going to die. He is smart, but he is playing risky and I don't see him living to the end of the series. I don't think he knows when to stop, or ever really wants to stop. He's my favourite character so I dread what the next books will bring.

I don't feel Littlefinger plays risky at all. He is a sneaky sneak who takes calculated risks cloaked in subterfuge. There is always someone else to blame and I don't think even Varys knows everything that Littlefinger has been up to. It really depends on what Littlefinger does once he has control of the Vale. I somehow think he will side with Aegon... until another opportunity for doublecrossing comes up

I don't think he will die on an order of some lord or somesuch, but as he himself said, even the smallest piece has a will of its own, some random vengeful death or something along those lines is not out of question imo.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Serek
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom459 Posts
June 17 2013 17:47 GMT
#7949
On June 18 2013 02:43 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 02:04 Acrofales wrote:
On June 18 2013 01:59 Scip wrote:
I have a bad feeling that littlefinger is going to die. He is smart, but he is playing risky and I don't see him living to the end of the series. I don't think he knows when to stop, or ever really wants to stop. He's my favourite character so I dread what the next books will bring.

I don't feel Littlefinger plays risky at all. He is a sneaky sneak who takes calculated risks cloaked in subterfuge. There is always someone else to blame and I don't think even Varys knows everything that Littlefinger has been up to. It really depends on what Littlefinger does once he has control of the Vale. I somehow think he will side with Aegon... until another opportunity for doublecrossing comes up

I don't think he will die on an order of some lord or somesuch, but as he himself said, even the smallest piece has a will of its own, some random vengeful death or something along those lines is not out of question imo.


Nah, Sansa will get him killed and thus the disciple will be greater than the master.
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
June 18 2013 03:39 GMT
#7950
On June 17 2013 14:26 Dakkas wrote:
Doubt Theon will survive. Tommen definitely won't survive, his death is part of Cersei's prophecy


But Tommen has such a gentle heart T_T


Has anyone linked this before?
http://gameofthronesandnorsemythology.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/ragnarok-song-of-ice-fire.html?m=1
or mentioned similar theories? Sounds pretty neat to me, and would be a lot cooler than a dragons vs whitewalkers pew pew ending
=)=
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
June 18 2013 04:47 GMT
#7951
On June 18 2013 12:39 itkovian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 14:26 Dakkas wrote:
Doubt Theon will survive. Tommen definitely won't survive, his death is part of Cersei's prophecy


But Tommen has such a gentle heart T_T


Has anyone linked this before?
http://gameofthronesandnorsemythology.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/ragnarok-song-of-ice-fire.html?m=1
or mentioned similar theories? Sounds pretty neat to me, and would be a lot cooler than a dragons vs whitewalkers pew pew ending


I would not go as far as to presume outcomes based on that. It's inevitably a prominent inspiration, just like a dozen or so other real world mythologies and real feudal european political events.

Ice and Fire not being opposed fits in well with the trend in thinking that there is more to the others (which there really has to be, right?), the Dany is a villain, the Bran/Bloodraven are a grey area, etc that have all been getting more popular.
Ender985
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain910 Posts
June 18 2013 10:43 GMT
#7952
On June 18 2013 02:47 Serek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 02:43 Scip wrote:
On June 18 2013 02:04 Acrofales wrote:
On June 18 2013 01:59 Scip wrote:
I have a bad feeling that littlefinger is going to die. He is smart, but he is playing risky and I don't see him living to the end of the series. I don't think he knows when to stop, or ever really wants to stop. He's my favourite character so I dread what the next books will bring.

I don't feel Littlefinger plays risky at all. He is a sneaky sneak who takes calculated risks cloaked in subterfuge. There is always someone else to blame and I don't think even Varys knows everything that Littlefinger has been up to. It really depends on what Littlefinger does once he has control of the Vale. I somehow think he will side with Aegon... until another opportunity for doublecrossing comes up

I don't think he will die on an order of some lord or somesuch, but as he himself said, even the smallest piece has a will of its own, some random vengeful death or something along those lines is not out of question imo.


Nah, Sansa will get him killed and thus the disciple will be greater than the master.

Yeah there is a prophecy of Sansa slaying a giant in an ice castle, so maybe she kills Littlefinger in Winterfell when she learns the whole "Tyrion's" dagger ordeal that set the war in motion and the demise of her own entire house.
Member of the Pirate Party - direct democracy, institutional transparency, and freedom of information
Tiwo
Profile Joined March 2009
Netherlands306 Posts
June 18 2013 11:03 GMT
#7953
On June 18 2013 19:43 Ender985 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 02:47 Serek wrote:
On June 18 2013 02:43 Scip wrote:
On June 18 2013 02:04 Acrofales wrote:
On June 18 2013 01:59 Scip wrote:
I have a bad feeling that littlefinger is going to die. He is smart, but he is playing risky and I don't see him living to the end of the series. I don't think he knows when to stop, or ever really wants to stop. He's my favourite character so I dread what the next books will bring.

I don't feel Littlefinger plays risky at all. He is a sneaky sneak who takes calculated risks cloaked in subterfuge. There is always someone else to blame and I don't think even Varys knows everything that Littlefinger has been up to. It really depends on what Littlefinger does once he has control of the Vale. I somehow think he will side with Aegon... until another opportunity for doublecrossing comes up

I don't think he will die on an order of some lord or somesuch, but as he himself said, even the smallest piece has a will of its own, some random vengeful death or something along those lines is not out of question imo.


Nah, Sansa will get him killed and thus the disciple will be greater than the master.

Yeah there is a prophecy of Sansa slaying a giant in an ice castle, so maybe she kills Littlefinger in Winterfell when she learns the whole "Tyrion's" dagger ordeal that set the war in motion and the demise of her own entire house.


Don't forget that "Sweet Robin" destroyed here Snow Castle while yelling 'Roar... I'm a giant', I believe in this more somehow.
Adron
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands839 Posts
June 20 2013 01:07 GMT
#7954
On June 14 2013 03:14 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 23:56 Erasme wrote:
Maybe Jon marries Dany..

Worst ending ever.

Actually one of my top most likely endings...

I IS called....fire and ice after all
JumboJohnson
Profile Joined December 2011
537 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-20 01:19:23
June 20 2013 01:18 GMT
#7955
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 18 2013 19:43 Ender985 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 02:47 Serek wrote:
On June 18 2013 02:43 Scip wrote:
On June 18 2013 02:04 Acrofales wrote:
On June 18 2013 01:59 Scip wrote:
I have a bad feeling that littlefinger is going to die. He is smart, but he is playing risky and I don't see him living to the end of the series. I don't think he knows when to stop, or ever really wants to stop. He's my favourite character so I dread what the next books will bring.

I don't feel Littlefinger plays risky at all. He is a sneaky sneak who takes calculated risks cloaked in subterfuge. There is always someone else to blame and I don't think even Varys knows everything that Littlefinger has been up to. It really depends on what Littlefinger does once he has control of the Vale. I somehow think he will side with Aegon... until another opportunity for doublecrossing comes up

I don't think he will die on an order of some lord or somesuch, but as he himself said, even the smallest piece has a will of its own, some random vengeful death or something along those lines is not out of question imo.


Nah, Sansa will get him killed and thus the disciple will be greater than the master.

Yeah there is a prophecy of Sansa slaying a giant in an ice castle, so maybe she kills Littlefinger in Winterfell when she learns the whole "Tyrion's" dagger ordeal that set the war in motion and the demise of her own entire house.



Yeah he's totally going to get rocked by Sansa. I only hope she has a great line for when she does. And there's no way Jon is dead, Melisandre is way to close to him. And Walder Frey will live to see every member of his house killed.
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
June 20 2013 01:23 GMT
#7956
On June 20 2013 10:07 Adron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 03:14 moopie wrote:
On June 13 2013 23:56 Erasme wrote:
Maybe Jon marries Dany..

Worst ending ever.

Actually one of my top most likely endings...

I IS called....fire and ice after all

And their son will be the stallion who mounts the world :O
Sup.
Panda86
Profile Joined June 2013
19 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-20 01:25:12
June 20 2013 01:24 GMT
#7957
On June 20 2013 10:07 Adron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 03:14 moopie wrote:
On June 13 2013 23:56 Erasme wrote:
Maybe Jon marries Dany..

Worst ending ever.

Actually one of my top most likely endings...

I IS called....fire and ice after all


I can't see it ending like that.

In my opinion the ending occurs something like this.

Dany dies in the waste at the hands of Khal Jhaqo. Jon Snow is revived by Melisandre. Aegon with his army at Storm's End turns out to be an imposter. Jon Snow is actually Aegon. However he refuses to abandon his brothers on the wall and remains Lord Commander and executes all involved in betraying him. WIth new found power he travels north to the lands of always winter and defeats the white walkers. Stannis defeats Ramsay and Roose in the battle in the North. Davos returns with Rickon and Stannis declares him Lord of Winterfell. With the aid of the North he conquers the south now that they are in disarray and unguarded. Cersei and Tommen are executed. Sansa kills Littlefinger.

Thats all that I have I don't really know what will occur with Aegon the Imposter and his army or what Prince Martell will do. I also have no idea what will become of Vicatarion or Tyrion whatsoever.
NPF
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1635 Posts
June 20 2013 01:32 GMT
#7958
On June 20 2013 10:07 Adron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 03:14 moopie wrote:
On June 13 2013 23:56 Erasme wrote:
Maybe Jon marries Dany..

Worst ending ever.

Actually one of my top most likely endings...

I IS called....fire and ice after all


The thing is Jon is Fire and Ice, Fire = Targaryan, Ice =Stark. This is the Jon Snow show boys and girls.
JumboJohnson
Profile Joined December 2011
537 Posts
June 20 2013 01:56 GMT
#7959
No way does Dany die in the waste by Khal Jhaqo, not with her dragon around.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
June 20 2013 02:12 GMT
#7960
On June 17 2013 19:05 Talin wrote:
Pretty sure Tyrion dies at some point. He doesn't have anywhere reasonable to end up or anything meaningful to accomplish. I don't see him as a Lord of Casterly Rock, let alone sitting on the throne. It's not realistic that he would be accepted as a ruler anywhere no matter what he does. Having that happen would make it a really cheap/corny "nerd wins" character arc.


didn't jaime's aunty say that tyrion is the only "true" son of tywin?? or did i misread that part
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