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On June 18 2013 00:18 Telcontar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 00:04 adiga wrote: Walder Frey is sooooooooooooo going to die, I think it will be the most vicious death on the series. I certainly hope so. I wonder who will get to kill that souless SOB.
Jaime Lannister on an eternal path of redemption or Arya Stark on an eternal path of vengence?
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On June 18 2013 00:18 Telcontar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 00:04 adiga wrote: Walder Frey is sooooooooooooo going to die, I think it will be the most vicious death on the series. I certainly hope so. I wonder who will get to kill that souless SOB.
I even believe that the whole(well maybe not everyone literally) Frey family will be wiped out, that guests killing thing will not go unpunished. The story Bran tells on the show(about the cook who trued into a rat in Nightfort I believe it was) supports this. A possible way will be the burning of them by dragon fire.
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Well since Orell went into his eagle and attacked Jon Snow on the show that makes me 99.9% sure he's going into Ghost in TWoW. Since I don't think they'll have Varamyr in the show this will be the only foreshadowing the show watchers will get. Even though show watchers have the slightest clue that any of the other Starks are wargs.
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I have a bad feeling that littlefinger is going to die. He is smart, but he is playing risky and I don't see him living to the end of the series. I don't think he knows when to stop, or ever really wants to stop. He's my favourite character so I dread what the next books will bring.
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On June 18 2013 00:23 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 00:18 Telcontar wrote:On June 18 2013 00:04 adiga wrote: Walder Frey is sooooooooooooo going to die, I think it will be the most vicious death on the series. I certainly hope so. I wonder who will get to kill that souless SOB. Jaime Lannister on an eternal path of redemption or Arya Stark on an eternal path of vengence? Or UnCat. I prefer Jaime or Arya, though.
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On June 18 2013 01:59 Scip wrote: I have a bad feeling that littlefinger is going to die. He is smart, but he is playing risky and I don't see him living to the end of the series. I don't think he knows when to stop, or ever really wants to stop. He's my favourite character so I dread what the next books will bring. I don't feel Littlefinger plays risky at all. He is a sneaky sneak who takes calculated risks cloaked in subterfuge. There is always someone else to blame and I don't think even Varys knows everything that Littlefinger has been up to. It really depends on what Littlefinger does once he has control of the Vale. I somehow think he will side with Aegon... until another opportunity for doublecrossing comes up
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Not a bad season - but one scene basically ruined the show for me (note: I did not read the books)
Scene (Stannis' warroom)
Stannis "Davos man what the fuck! You let Gendry go. You must get the chops"
Davos "I let him go because fuck your voodoo, also you cant give me the chops because I got this Night watch letter man"
Red Woman "Oh shit man, the night watch letter, means season 1-3 is pointless since the wars of men is nothing compared to the war vs frost zombies (they are crazier then normal zombies because they dont rot) so forget all the beef and drama of the war of the kings.
Stannis "Shiiiiieeettt. Ok fuck all this war mess - fresh story line incoming next seaon lOLOLOLOL"
Thats just lazy story telling imo.
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On June 18 2013 02:04 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 01:59 Scip wrote: I have a bad feeling that littlefinger is going to die. He is smart, but he is playing risky and I don't see him living to the end of the series. I don't think he knows when to stop, or ever really wants to stop. He's my favourite character so I dread what the next books will bring. I don't feel Littlefinger plays risky at all. He is a sneaky sneak who takes calculated risks cloaked in subterfuge. There is always someone else to blame and I don't think even Varys knows everything that Littlefinger has been up to. It really depends on what Littlefinger does once he has control of the Vale. I somehow think he will side with Aegon... until another opportunity for doublecrossing comes up  I don't think he will die on an order of some lord or somesuch, but as he himself said, even the smallest piece has a will of its own, some random vengeful death or something along those lines is not out of question imo.
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On June 18 2013 02:43 Scip wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 02:04 Acrofales wrote:On June 18 2013 01:59 Scip wrote: I have a bad feeling that littlefinger is going to die. He is smart, but he is playing risky and I don't see him living to the end of the series. I don't think he knows when to stop, or ever really wants to stop. He's my favourite character so I dread what the next books will bring. I don't feel Littlefinger plays risky at all. He is a sneaky sneak who takes calculated risks cloaked in subterfuge. There is always someone else to blame and I don't think even Varys knows everything that Littlefinger has been up to. It really depends on what Littlefinger does once he has control of the Vale. I somehow think he will side with Aegon... until another opportunity for doublecrossing comes up  I don't think he will die on an order of some lord or somesuch, but as he himself said, even the smallest piece has a will of its own, some random vengeful death or something along those lines is not out of question imo.
Nah, Sansa will get him killed and thus the disciple will be greater than the master.
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I would not go as far as to presume outcomes based on that. It's inevitably a prominent inspiration, just like a dozen or so other real world mythologies and real feudal european political events.
Ice and Fire not being opposed fits in well with the trend in thinking that there is more to the others (which there really has to be, right?), the Dany is a villain, the Bran/Bloodraven are a grey area, etc that have all been getting more popular.
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On June 18 2013 02:47 Serek wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 02:43 Scip wrote:On June 18 2013 02:04 Acrofales wrote:On June 18 2013 01:59 Scip wrote: I have a bad feeling that littlefinger is going to die. He is smart, but he is playing risky and I don't see him living to the end of the series. I don't think he knows when to stop, or ever really wants to stop. He's my favourite character so I dread what the next books will bring. I don't feel Littlefinger plays risky at all. He is a sneaky sneak who takes calculated risks cloaked in subterfuge. There is always someone else to blame and I don't think even Varys knows everything that Littlefinger has been up to. It really depends on what Littlefinger does once he has control of the Vale. I somehow think he will side with Aegon... until another opportunity for doublecrossing comes up  I don't think he will die on an order of some lord or somesuch, but as he himself said, even the smallest piece has a will of its own, some random vengeful death or something along those lines is not out of question imo. Nah, Sansa will get him killed and thus the disciple will be greater than the master.  Yeah there is a prophecy of Sansa slaying a giant in an ice castle, so maybe she kills Littlefinger in Winterfell when she learns the whole "Tyrion's" dagger ordeal that set the war in motion and the demise of her own entire house.
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On June 18 2013 19:43 Ender985 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 02:47 Serek wrote:On June 18 2013 02:43 Scip wrote:On June 18 2013 02:04 Acrofales wrote:On June 18 2013 01:59 Scip wrote: I have a bad feeling that littlefinger is going to die. He is smart, but he is playing risky and I don't see him living to the end of the series. I don't think he knows when to stop, or ever really wants to stop. He's my favourite character so I dread what the next books will bring. I don't feel Littlefinger plays risky at all. He is a sneaky sneak who takes calculated risks cloaked in subterfuge. There is always someone else to blame and I don't think even Varys knows everything that Littlefinger has been up to. It really depends on what Littlefinger does once he has control of the Vale. I somehow think he will side with Aegon... until another opportunity for doublecrossing comes up  I don't think he will die on an order of some lord or somesuch, but as he himself said, even the smallest piece has a will of its own, some random vengeful death or something along those lines is not out of question imo. Nah, Sansa will get him killed and thus the disciple will be greater than the master.  Yeah there is a prophecy of Sansa slaying a giant in an ice castle, so maybe she kills Littlefinger in Winterfell when she learns the whole "Tyrion's" dagger ordeal that set the war in motion and the demise of her own entire house.
Don't forget that "Sweet Robin" destroyed here Snow Castle while yelling 'Roar... I'm a giant', I believe in this more somehow.
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On June 14 2013 03:14 moopie wrote:Worst ending ever. Actually one of my top most likely endings...
I IS called....fire and ice after all
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+ Show Spoiler +On June 18 2013 19:43 Ender985 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 02:47 Serek wrote:On June 18 2013 02:43 Scip wrote:On June 18 2013 02:04 Acrofales wrote:On June 18 2013 01:59 Scip wrote: I have a bad feeling that littlefinger is going to die. He is smart, but he is playing risky and I don't see him living to the end of the series. I don't think he knows when to stop, or ever really wants to stop. He's my favourite character so I dread what the next books will bring. I don't feel Littlefinger plays risky at all. He is a sneaky sneak who takes calculated risks cloaked in subterfuge. There is always someone else to blame and I don't think even Varys knows everything that Littlefinger has been up to. It really depends on what Littlefinger does once he has control of the Vale. I somehow think he will side with Aegon... until another opportunity for doublecrossing comes up  I don't think he will die on an order of some lord or somesuch, but as he himself said, even the smallest piece has a will of its own, some random vengeful death or something along those lines is not out of question imo. Nah, Sansa will get him killed and thus the disciple will be greater than the master.  Yeah there is a prophecy of Sansa slaying a giant in an ice castle, so maybe she kills Littlefinger in Winterfell when she learns the whole "Tyrion's" dagger ordeal that set the war in motion and the demise of her own entire house.
Yeah he's totally going to get rocked by Sansa. I only hope she has a great line for when she does. And there's no way Jon is dead, Melisandre is way to close to him. And Walder Frey will live to see every member of his house killed.
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On June 20 2013 10:07 Adron wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 03:14 moopie wrote:On June 13 2013 23:56 Erasme wrote: Maybe Jon marries Dany.. Worst ending ever. Actually one of my top most likely endings... I IS called....fire and ice after all And their son will be the stallion who mounts the world :O
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On June 20 2013 10:07 Adron wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 03:14 moopie wrote:On June 13 2013 23:56 Erasme wrote: Maybe Jon marries Dany.. Worst ending ever. Actually one of my top most likely endings... I IS called....fire and ice after all
I can't see it ending like that.
In my opinion the ending occurs something like this.
Dany dies in the waste at the hands of Khal Jhaqo. Jon Snow is revived by Melisandre. Aegon with his army at Storm's End turns out to be an imposter. Jon Snow is actually Aegon. However he refuses to abandon his brothers on the wall and remains Lord Commander and executes all involved in betraying him. WIth new found power he travels north to the lands of always winter and defeats the white walkers. Stannis defeats Ramsay and Roose in the battle in the North. Davos returns with Rickon and Stannis declares him Lord of Winterfell. With the aid of the North he conquers the south now that they are in disarray and unguarded. Cersei and Tommen are executed. Sansa kills Littlefinger.
Thats all that I have I don't really know what will occur with Aegon the Imposter and his army or what Prince Martell will do. I also have no idea what will become of Vicatarion or Tyrion whatsoever.
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On June 20 2013 10:07 Adron wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 03:14 moopie wrote:On June 13 2013 23:56 Erasme wrote: Maybe Jon marries Dany.. Worst ending ever. Actually one of my top most likely endings... I IS called....fire and ice after all
The thing is Jon is Fire and Ice, Fire = Targaryan, Ice =Stark. This is the Jon Snow show boys and girls.
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No way does Dany die in the waste by Khal Jhaqo, not with her dragon around.
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On June 17 2013 19:05 Talin wrote: Pretty sure Tyrion dies at some point. He doesn't have anywhere reasonable to end up or anything meaningful to accomplish. I don't see him as a Lord of Casterly Rock, let alone sitting on the throne. It's not realistic that he would be accepted as a ruler anywhere no matter what he does. Having that happen would make it a really cheap/corny "nerd wins" character arc.
didn't jaime's aunty say that tyrion is the only "true" son of tywin?? or did i misread that part
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