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Tiwo
Netherlands306 Posts
On June 15 2013 19:09 risk.nuke wrote: I don't think (F)Aegon will be Dany's treason of blood because he's probably a Blackfyre. And by probably you mean possibly. I like the theory tho, specially the Crossroads Inn The washed up black dragon head that turned red on The Quiet Isle. (Aegon Blackfyre washed up in Essos and Turned to Aegon Targ) | ||
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0x64
Finland4615 Posts
Oh the drama | ||
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Koerage
Netherlands1220 Posts
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
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jmack
Canada285 Posts
On June 16 2013 01:18 forsooth wrote: I'm getting pretty close to the end of ADWD now and I kind of don't want to finish the book, knowing how long it's been taking GRRM to get each book out since the first three. The wait for Winds of Winter would kill me. As someone who got to enjoy all 5 in a row, having come to the party late, let me say it's fucking brutal. The wait between books I think would have killed me. I am barely enduring this one. I check his blog, and google for random hints at a release day. Nothing seems to satisfy. I want to know what happens. To be taken back to that world for a little while longer. I've done my re read. A few actually. Just to enjoy all the little stuff I missed. But its not enough. I hope some how he can get it ready soon. Hope. | ||
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Irrelevant Label
United States596 Posts
On June 16 2013 01:25 jmack wrote: As someone who got to enjoy all 5 in a row, having come to the party late, let me say it's fucking brutal. The wait between books I think would have killed me. I am barely enduring this one. I check his blog, and google for random hints at a release day. Nothing seems to satisfy. I want to know what happens. To be taken back to that world for a little while longer. I've done my re read. A few actually. Just to enjoy all the little stuff I missed. But its not enough. I hope some how he can get it ready soon. Hope. This one will not take the six years that Dance took or the five that Feast took. Don't make me link that comic in this thread too. I was just thinking the other day how it still felt like Dance had just come out and there hasn't been any sense of waiting with the show providing this alternate version to distract with at a 9.5 month interval. The people who have it hard are the guys who are more of hardcore book purists and veterans of the previous long waits. ...this is the part where someone says white/developed world problems. ..."the long wait" should be something in the ASoIaF fandom. | ||
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Tiwo
Netherlands306 Posts
On June 16 2013 01:25 jmack wrote: As someone who got to enjoy all 5 in a row, having come to the party late, let me say it's fucking brutal. The wait between books I think would have killed me. I am barely enduring this one. I check his blog, and google for random hints at a release day. Nothing seems to satisfy. I want to know what happens. To be taken back to that world for a little while longer. I've done my re read. A few actually. Just to enjoy all the little stuff I missed. But its not enough. I hope some how he can get it ready soon. Hope. Ow yeah, I read all 5 books in a row as well. The funny part was when I was done with A Feast for Crows, the finals page states that A Dance With Dragons should be out within a year. Poor people who had to wait. | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On June 16 2013 01:25 jmack wrote: As someone who got to enjoy all 5 in a row, having come to the party late, let me say it's fucking brutal. The wait between books I think would have killed me. I am barely enduring this one. I check his blog, and google for random hints at a release day. Nothing seems to satisfy. I want to know what happens. To be taken back to that world for a little while longer. I've done my re read. A few actually. Just to enjoy all the little stuff I missed. But its not enough. I hope some how he can get it ready soon. Hope. You are just a summer child, unknowing of the harshness of the GRRM winters. On June 15 2013 05:53 Ender985 wrote: I don't know about Stannis. Danny had a vision, "Glowing like sunset, a red sword was raised in the hand of a blue-eyed king who cast no shadow." I have always pictured that to mean Stannis as a wight. The blue eyes, as they become when they turn, and casting no shadow, which to me seemed to indicate he is dead. Him being a likely fake AA and being at the wall, I always thought he was gonna bite it soon. I don't buy Ramsay's letter however, the Bolton's are quite unlikely to come out ahead of Winterfell's situation, with all the internal factions, frey-pies, Mance Ryder shenanigans plus an army surrounding them. But who knows. It actually does refer to Stannis, but not as a wight. He just has no shadow because of Melisandre and her magic of using his shadow to commit murders. | ||
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Irrelevant Label
United States596 Posts
All there is to go by is that he looks like what Dany has been told Robert Baratheon looked like because she mistook it for Robert, the locale (Trident+snow), the blue eyes, and the lack of a shadow, and that it appeared to be leading an army. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On June 16 2013 14:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Where the hell is Ghost? Near Sam. Sam sees him at one point and is like "Ghost?" | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On June 16 2013 02:42 Tiwo wrote: Ow yeah, I read all 5 books in a row as well. The funny part was when I was done with A Feast for Crows, the finals page states that A Dance With Dragons should be out within a year. Poor people who had to wait. Yeah, that was a mistake by Martin in giving an ETA for the next book. As the deadline was missed and massively, what was meant as a note of encouragement to the readers turned out to be a very bad case of customer expectation management. Martin will never make the mistake of giving an ETA like that. I always think it is better for Martin to take the time needed to ensure the books are as good as possible, rather than rushing them out and them being substandard. Although the wait between books is frustrating, the books are so detailed and complex with their foreshadowing and red-herrings that the waiting allows re-reads and online discussions of various theories. Westeros.org is a great place for that. | ||
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Yuljan
2196 Posts
On June 16 2013 22:01 revel8 wrote: Yeah, that was a mistake by Martin in giving an ETA for the next book. As the deadline was missed and massively, what was meant as a note of encouragement to the readers turned out to be a very bad case of customer expectation management. Martin will never make the mistake of giving an ETA like that. I always think it is better for Martin to take the time needed to ensure the books are as good as possible, rather than rushing them out and them being substandard. Although the wait between books is frustrating, the books are so detailed and complex with their foreshadowing and red-herrings that the waiting allows re-reads and online discussions of various theories. Westeros.org is a great place for that. To be honest I was disappointed by every book he spend too much time on. Feast and DwD were both underwhelming. Its nice that he wants to expend his world and show different viewpoints, new settings and characters but the plot progression was almost non existant. I fear the first half of the next book will be the same old events from a different perspective again... | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On June 16 2013 22:49 Yuljan wrote: To be honest I was disappointed by every book he spend too much time on. Feast and DwD were both underwhelming. Its nice that he wants to expend his world and show different viewpoints, new settings and characters but the plot progression was almost non existant. I fear the first half of the next book will be the same old events from a different perspective again... I disagree that plot development was almost non-existant. Sure, AFFC/ADWD are slower than ASOS, but plenty of stuff still happens. Pretty much every arc has great plot development, there just hasn't been a climax yet (which will happen in TWOW). Same as AGOT&ACOK were the setup for ASOS. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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Vladoks
Germany136 Posts
On June 14 2013 07:09 SKC wrote: Sweetsmelling air doesn't have to mean anything, and that line doesn't have anything to do with Azor Ahai. It's Lyanna's favorite flower, so it "could" mean that Jon is her son. It's possible that it means Jon will improve things at the Wall, but it can easily mean nothing at all. Isnt sweet smell often associated with death? like the smell of death/corpses you know | ||
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intothewhite
Australia60 Posts
On June 17 2013 01:09 Vladoks wrote: Isnt sweet smell often associated with death? like the smell of death/corpses you know That whole "died in the spring" from the plague, The Spring sickness I think. Sweet smelling has a connection to death from what I remember of Dunk and Egg/Aegon the Unlikely info. | ||
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0x64
Finland4615 Posts
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On June 17 2013 01:00 Cambium wrote: I actually really enjoyed ADWD, not sure why most people didn't =/ Just finished it last night and I liked it quite a bit. It was a lot better than AFFC, though Quentyn's storyline seemed kind of pointless. All he does it get to Meereen, find out he's too late, and then die horribly. | ||
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SpikeStarcraft
Germany2095 Posts
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it has nothing to do with sweetsmelling air.
