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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire Click Here for the spoiler-free thread. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11086 Posts
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Mercurial
Canada92 Posts
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Fruscainte
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No magic door? Really? It's just a random hole that anyone can walk through? How have the whitewalkers/wildlings not found this path beyond the Wall yet? | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On June 10 2013 13:19 Mercurial wrote: stannis saying that davos is dead no matter what and then taking it back when Melissandre tells him to was retarded I dont understand why they would have done that, it ruins his whole character not to mention his realization that he should have been fulfilling his duty first by helping out the nights watch etc. Up to interpretation. Davos may have freed Gendry, but he also possibly killed (at the time perception) Stannis' chances at winning back his kingdom, and committed blatant treason, and openly admits to it. He can't really overlook that, now can he? Though I agree, they should've had something more explicitly positive then the constant negatives of Stannis. Should look better in the upcoming seasons, but we'll see. EDIT: On June 10 2013 13:23 Fruscainte wrote: Small thing that also irks me: No magic door? Really? It's just a random hole that anyone can walk through? How have the whitewalkers/wildlings not found this path beyond the Wall yet? Probably because they spent the budget money on direwolves and dragonsssss. And maybe CGI crowdsurfing. :o | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
++Robb with Grey Wind head ++Small council +Rat cook +Lord Frey and Bolton +Ramsay & Reek +Sam & Bran +Balon & Yara +Arya killing the man +Jon & Ygritte +/-Yara to the rescue of Theon? Well I think she won't go far and will have to come back when she'll learn about her father's death -the ending with Dany was quite disapointing, not the best way to end a season --Shae & Varys. That was a weird scene. True love? I never saw Varys being so wrong --Jaime at King's Landing? Well that one is really bad. For a moment, I thought it was a dream but... I wonder what they will do for purple wedding --Stannis  well, not the best but not the worst. The start was awesome, too bad it didn't end well | ||
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
anyone else twitched when Tywin almost told Tyrion he was a bastard? im just like anyone else, thought the end was a bummer. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On the bright side, even non-book readers are starting to get tired of her shit. And are almost expecting bad things to happen to her. Cathartic, season 4 shall be.  | ||
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Mercurial
Canada92 Posts
On June 10 2013 13:32 Lord Tolkien wrote: Up to interpretation. Davos may have freed Gendry, but he also possibly killed (at the time perception) Stannis' chances at winning back his kingdom, and committed blatant treason, and openly admits to it. He can't really overlook that, now can he? Though I agree, they should've had something more explicitly positive then the constant negatives of Stannis. Should look better in the upcoming seasons, but we'll see. EDIT: Probably because they spent the budget money on direwolves and dragonsssss. And maybe CGI crowdsurfing. :o I have no problem with him seeming to sentence him to death but it just breaks his whole character to take his word back and makes him look like Melissandre's puppet. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On June 10 2013 13:44 Mercurial wrote: I have no problem with him seeming to sentence him to death but it just breaks his whole character to take his word back and makes him look like Melissandre's puppet. I agree. :x It's just...poorly done. I get what they're going for, but eh, it fell flat. | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On June 10 2013 13:15 Lord Tolkien wrote: Pfft. There's plenty of characters that have been flattened out, if only due to the limitations of TV and the limited amount of time they have to show things. Loras for instance isn't quite so distraught with Renly's death after all! :p It's to be expected, and honestly, I don't think the Stannis interpretation was "everything is ruined, fuck you HBO" level. Well, not quite. There's still plenty of room for interpretation, at least (wasn't at all overt in the finale, but there plenty to be analyzed), and I suspect Stannis' characterization will improve in coming seasons (just like the Season 3 finale will highlight the shitshow that Dany's actions have caused). I wouldn't expect that they'll improve his characterization much. Both of the showrunners view Stannis as nothing but a puritanical asshole obsessed with becoming king and reshaping Westeros in his image. They've said outright he'd be a horrible king who would ruin everything. Taking that into account, it seems likely to me that they'll continue to emphasize all of his worse traits while ignoring his better ones. | ||
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AstroPegnuin
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On June 10 2013 13:17 Sabu113 wrote: This is such a good franchise. I'm sure they'll keep the writing tight but I can't imagine them being reluctant to let it continue on for awhile to buy time for Martin. Feast/Dance will take up 2 more seasons easy + next season gives Martin roughly 3 years to get Winds out (he's optimistic that it will be done for 2014), assuming Winds is a good length it can probably take up another 2 seasons so if Martin can finish the franchise within 5 years things should be okay, if not I can see them doing a 1 year hiatus like the Sopranos maybe or do an off season with Roberts Rebellion or something which could actually help give a lot of needed exposition that the viewers are missing out on. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On June 10 2013 13:53 forsooth wrote: I wouldn't expect that they'll improve his characterization much. Both of the showrunners view Stannis as nothing but a puritanical asshole obsessed with becoming king and reshaping Westeros in his image. They've said outright he'd be a horrible king who would ruin everything. Taking that into account, it seems likely to me that they'll continue to emphasize all of his worse traits while ignoring his better ones. Did they really say that? :\ What the fuck where. | ||
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AstroPegnuin
293 Posts
Overall this season was easily passable though, Season 1 was still my favorite and Season 2 was pretty lame minus Episode 9 (which when you think of it at least in my opinion is the same in Clash of Kings, the climax is the only really exciting part, the other stuff is good to but not as good as the other books) | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
Final scene was bland, and the entire crowd surfing part felt dumb. Rest of the episode was pretty good though. The small council scene was great, and even part of me felt torn when Ygritte released the first arrow. edit: Oh ya, how could I forget the Ayra stabbing scene and the sewn wolf head part. So delightfully good. Hell, I even liked the Asha/Balon scene. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
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HereBeDragons
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
So glad they didn't puss out and actually showed the mutilated body of Robb with the wolf's head . No mention of Cat being thrown in the river just yet, but it'll probably come up when Stoneheart shows up (whom I'm glad they won't be revealing just yet). Also, Joffrey had a good idea this ep. They should actually have Robb's head at the purple wedding :D. It fits perfectly with the scene. It's like just when you hit the breaking point of hating Joffrey and wish he'd die already...he does! That's a deviation I can live with. It feels good that they finally stopped tip toeing around the painfully obvious identity of Theon's captor already. They made it profoundly clear Theon no longer has a dick as well...lol. Sadly, it's not all good. As I feared, they seem to be fucking up Shae's story big time. I don't know how they're going to wrap up her character now without continuing on with her deviating path in the show. Simply reverting back into having her stab Tyrion in the back doesn't seem very plausible now. I don't like the Stannis scene either, they botched a cool reveal for season 4. Lastly, I don't like Jaime showing up early like this but I feel they can work around it. | ||
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CobaltBlu
United States919 Posts
And then there is the bit with Jaime and Brienne getting back to King's Landing already while Sansa is still there. I don't trust them to deviate from the bones of the story anymore since they like to do stuff like have Jaime murder his cousin or have Robb marry a foreigner field medic. I enjoy most of the scenes and the acting for the most part is great but sometimes just blech. P.S. If there is some huge hole in the wall why do wildlings ever need to climb it. | ||
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sickle
New Zealand656 Posts
On June 10 2013 13:53 forsooth wrote: I wouldn't expect that they'll improve his characterization much. Both of the showrunners view Stannis as nothing but a puritanical asshole obsessed with becoming king and reshaping Westeros in his image. They've said outright he'd be a horrible king who would ruin everything. Taking that into account, it seems likely to me that they'll continue to emphasize all of his worse traits while ignoring his better ones. Did they really say that about Stannis? Sorry for asking but could u give me a source? I want to see. I'm really annoyed about his portrayal in the show - I mean he has such good dialogue in the books, why discard it and instead have the terrible TERRIBLE completely one-dimensional writing that we got? | ||
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