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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
June 10 2013 02:20 GMT
#7601
Did Jaime actually return or was that scene just misleading? Anything meaningful happened?
KasPra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Estonia983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 02:26:21
June 10 2013 02:21 GMT
#7602
Will season 5 be just about book 4, or 4+5?

If there'll be a whole season capturing the few and boring events of Feast I'm sure the ratings and viewership will heavily drop. I don't blindly hate the book, I just think it's really not fit for the series unlike the other ones.

edit: Now that I think about it, since the show follows one single timeline perhaps they won't discontinue many of the storylines that suddenly stopped at book 4 and instead follow books 4+5 at the same time?

edit2: Yeah I suppose so, thanks for the answers!
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
June 10 2013 02:22 GMT
#7603
On June 10 2013 11:21 KasPra wrote:
Will season 5 be just about book 4, or 4+5?

If there'll be a whole season capturing the few and boring events of Feast I'm sure the ratings and viewership will heavily drop. I don't blindly hate the book, I just think it's really not fit for the series unlike the other ones.

4+5. They cover the same timeframe.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
June 10 2013 02:22 GMT
#7604
On June 10 2013 11:21 KasPra wrote:
Will season 5 be just about book 4, or 4+5?

If there'll be a whole season capturing the few and boring events of Feast I'm sure the ratings and viewership will heavily drop. I don't blindly hate the book, I just think it's really not fit for the series unlike the other ones.

It will probally mix them up, even it they take more than 2 seasons to do both books. I can't see separating the seasons by location like Martin did for the books being a good idea. I don't think there's any confirmation on how many seasons it will actually take.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
June 10 2013 02:24 GMT
#7605
That was easily the worst episode of the season.

Possibly the worst episode of the entire series.
SCWind
Profile Joined December 2011
United States33 Posts
June 10 2013 02:29 GMT
#7606
On June 10 2013 11:24 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
That was easily the worst episode of the season.

Possibly the worst episode of the entire series.

I had the same exact thought.

I have NO idea what they were thinking writing the varys/shae "true love" scene knowing what's coming up.
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
June 10 2013 02:31 GMT
#7607
Maybe what Shae really wanted all along was power
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Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
June 10 2013 02:36 GMT
#7608
I thought it was a great episode. Sure it didn't have the "oomph" moment we were expecting, but overall it was fantastic imo.
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Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
June 10 2013 02:56 GMT
#7609
On June 10 2013 11:36 Tewks44 wrote:
I thought it was a great episode. Sure it didn't have the "oomph" moment we were expecting, but overall it was fantastic imo.

I only had three real problems with this episode

1) The Shae true love crap, going to make Varys look like an idiot and just in general seemed out of place.
2)Jaime being back in Kings Landing before the purple wedding...
3)Like you said no Ooomph at the ending, nothing to make you really crave the next season etc.

Maybe they should have just done the Red wedding as the season finale, was too hard to top that the very next week. That being said though it did have some good points

The small council scene was fucking great.
Arya stabbing that dude was also great to watch.
Jon and Ygritte was does very well too.

So all in all not a bad episode, def not the worst but not really worthy of being a season finale imo

Also where was Cold hands??? Weren't they supposed to find him with Sam when they went into the well???
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Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 02:57:36
June 10 2013 02:56 GMT
#7610
I'm absolutely loving the character assassination D&D is performing on Stannis.

"Lord Seaworth is a man of humble birth, but he reminded me of my duty, when all I could think of was my rights. I had the cart before the horse, Davos said. I was trying to win the throne to save the kingdom, when I should have been trying to save the kingdom to win the throne." Stannis pointed north. "There is where I'll find the enemy I was born to fight."


Does this sound like the Stannis in the show? Stannis went North because Davos convinced him the kings DUTY is to protect the people of the realm before anything else. In the show it's just Stannis being Melly's lapdog and being a religious zealot who D&D clearly perceive as the badguy. Which is not surprising considering they've stated before Stannis is their least favorite core character.

That ending was fucking horrible too. Dany's reason to stay in Mereen? Oh look she's a mother now. Yeah that's pretty cool I guess, but it's not something that hooks us. Something to get us hyped up for next season. Lady Stonehearts revival would have been the best thing to end the season on possible.

Overall great season, great S9 climax episode. Just terrible finale. Worst episode of the entire series imo. The Arya coin scene coming at last and the Reekening was fantastic though, a shining light in this dark tunnel.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
June 10 2013 03:06 GMT
#7611
I kept hoping they would fix Stannis but after tonight's episode I lost hope.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
June 10 2013 03:09 GMT
#7612
On June 10 2013 12:06 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I kept hoping they would fix Stannis but after tonight's episode I lost hope.


It's fucking disgusting D&D would do a 180 with a characters personality and motives just because they personally dislike the character.

I'm going to give them precisely two episodes in Season 4 to fix this shit or I'm jumping ship before they ruin this fantastic series even more and I'll just wait patiently for GRRM to finish his work.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
June 10 2013 03:16 GMT
#7613
On June 10 2013 12:09 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 12:06 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I kept hoping they would fix Stannis but after tonight's episode I lost hope.


It's fucking disgusting D&D would do a 180 with a characters personality and motives just because they personally dislike the character.

I'm going to give them precisely two episodes in Season 4 to fix this shit or I'm jumping ship before they ruin this fantastic series even more and I'll just wait patiently for GRRM to finish his work.

Eh, to be honest, I kind of understand where they're going with it. They want him to slowly redeem himself through Season 4+, and for him to develop through the series.

Though I wish they did the character more justice. :\
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 03:17:48
June 10 2013 03:17 GMT
#7614
I really didn't think it was possible to fuck up a main character that much. How could they get Stannis so wrong?

Is GRRM even upset at how much they're changing him?
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
June 10 2013 03:20 GMT
#7615
On June 10 2013 12:16 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 12:09 Fruscainte wrote:
On June 10 2013 12:06 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I kept hoping they would fix Stannis but after tonight's episode I lost hope.


It's fucking disgusting D&D would do a 180 with a characters personality and motives just because they personally dislike the character.

I'm going to give them precisely two episodes in Season 4 to fix this shit or I'm jumping ship before they ruin this fantastic series even more and I'll just wait patiently for GRRM to finish his work.

Eh, to be honest, I kind of understand where they're going with it. They want him to slowly redeem himself through Season 4+, and for him to develop through the series.

Though I wish they did the character more justice. :\


"im killing you no matter what it's over davos you're dead"
"no dont red god says no"
"okay lol he stays alive"

They're turning him into a pussy whipped loser.

God I'm actually really mad at this. Stannis isn't even a favorite character of mine or anything but he's a pivotal one and deserves to at least be represented correctly. I hope he gets some major "redemption" later on.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
June 10 2013 03:25 GMT
#7616
It doesn't even matter to me if they "redeem" him, they've already ruined his character.

I'll still watch the show, but I won't forgive them for how much they ruined one of the best characters in the books.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
June 10 2013 03:26 GMT
#7617
On June 10 2013 12:25 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
It doesn't even matter to me if they "redeem" him, they've already ruined his character.

I'll still watch the show, but I won't forgive them for how much they ruined one of the best characters in the books.

Trust me, I know. Big fan of Stannis. :\
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
June 10 2013 03:29 GMT
#7618
On June 10 2013 11:22 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 11:21 KasPra wrote:
Will season 5 be just about book 4, or 4+5?

If there'll be a whole season capturing the few and boring events of Feast I'm sure the ratings and viewership will heavily drop. I don't blindly hate the book, I just think it's really not fit for the series unlike the other ones.

It will probally mix them up, even it they take more than 2 seasons to do both books. I can't see separating the seasons by location like Martin did for the books being a good idea. I don't think there's any confirmation on how many seasons it will actually take.


The producers have said that they're aiming for 7 seasons, so yes, they're going to attempt 4+5 in one.
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Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
June 10 2013 03:37 GMT
#7619
there is NO WAY they're gonna be able to finish all the books in 7 seasons. I mean they had to cram book 3 into two seasons, when book 3 is nothing compared to book 5 in terms of size. And apparently book 6 is gonna be just as big.

Unless they can condense book 4 and 5 into one season, then maybe....
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 10 2013 03:40 GMT
#7620
This episode was shit for a finale. Fuck all happened, they changed a decent amount of lore: Jaime in Kings Landing, Gendry not being part of BWB anymore, no Coldhands, Asha/Yara striking out before the Kingsmoot, Shae... this episode has more "transgressions" than pretty much the rest of this season combined.

Even from just an entertainment standpoint it was boring. The only good scenes were the Small Council meeting and Arya killing the Freys (another change). Theon's was pretty good, but it lasted all of like 3 seconds before jumping away again.

Ramsay's reveal didn't have the weight it should have considering how much show watchers were kept in the dark over his identity. It was just like "oh yeah bee tee dubs this is my bastard and that's about it". So much for unraveling the mystery or having some kind of big reveal.
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